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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-04-07, 11:23:16
anonymous  
pardon me guys but did katya kropotova ever try and weasle money from you
you failed to mention that in your comments
ya this girl tried to talk to different guys but whats the harm in that
did she ask for money
did you recieve any suspicious bills
as you might know IP seaches can be deceptive
you can seach the same IP three times and get different locations
honestly guys
you could cause this girl alot of trouble if she is on the level
and before you make claims of her being a scam you should have something better than an invalid IP address
just my opinion
administrator 11325
ps it shows im from andover ma and im no wheres near that
2008-04-07, 11:28:22
anonymous from United States  
pardon me guys but did katya kropotova ever try and weasle money from you
you failed to mention that in your comments
ya this girl tried to talk to different guys but whats the harm in that
did she ask for money
did you recieve any suspicious bills
as you might know IP seaches can be deceptive
you can seach the same IP three times and get different locations
honestly guys
you could cause this girl alot of trouble if she is on the level
and before you make claims of her being a scam you should have something better than an invalid IP address
just my opinion
administrator 11325
ps it shows im from andover ma and im no wheres near that




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2008-04-07, 12:32:14   (updated: 2008-04-07, 12:35:16)
anonymous from United Kingdom  
ALSO KNOWN AS Alina Yakimovich

TRY
http://russiandetec..tive.html

PLENTY INFO AND PICS
2008-04-07, 16:34:06
anonymous from Norway  
Anybody seen her on their e-mail??hehe


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2008-04-07, 20:13:31
anonymous from United States  
Article for info; original link-

http://www.informat..IWK_daily
2008-04-08, 05:37:18
anonymous from United Kingdom  
anyone else been scammed by Ernest Debrah? sizzla2008@hotmail.com says he is Polish/American serving with the US Army in Baghdad,Iraq first photo of sophisticated looking white haied man, then later photos of him with US soldiers in uniform, and he is in civilian clothes, moustache, glasses says he is a army doctor aged 58 in August with a doctorate
2008-04-08, 18:32:10
anonymous from United States  
Lol, I have several for you. Its actually sad and funny at the same time the more I think about these contacts. Sad for them in how the deceive and funny in the fact that now I know I am just 1 in thousands that get these emails..
Here is my first~yes, I have them saved in my 'Russian folder', so I will send more to add to the 'Scam List'.
First one follows:

This is after several emails lasting approx. 3 weeks or so, here comes the money question.

I was very glad to receive the letter from you. When
I read your letter, on my eyes even tears of
pleasure have appeared. I see that we are necessary for each other. Not
I visit church, and Imp asking the god for our
meeting. How you there without me? I grieve without you very much. You
are in my heart. I know that you require me very
much, and should feel very pleasantly. I always think of you, about our
meeting, about our feature. Now I feel, that you -
my second half. And I want to be with you most of all on this planet.
Imp lonely in this huge world and now I have found
you. I am very grateful to you, that you trust me. You are in my
opinion. With each your letter I understood that you that
person which is necessary for me, that the person who is very necessary
for me. I as well as you want to see, I want to
arrive to you more never to be separated.
Lovely, I very much would not like to burden you with the difficulties,
but I so would like to see you faster. I not I
can to ask you about the help but if you want to see me can help me
with money faster. On registration of the visa as I to
you wrote to me for this purpose it is necessary $ 450 If you really
want me to see as soon as possible and if you have
opportunity have gone them to me, it is very inconvenient for me to ask
you, but now it is a unique opportunity to meet.
If you want to help our meeting there was money through WESTERN UNION,
the address of branch:

The address of bank:
ODINBANK
BIRYUZOVA,15
ODINTSOVO , 143000
For my name DIANA IVANOVA

My girlfriend to work in bank, and she to advise me system the WESTERN
UNION, she to speak, that it is the most reliable
and fast system of remittances. This system should be in each bank. If
you will help me with money and our meeting you to
go in bank and there will give you of 10 figures when you to send money
(number of translation), 10 figures you to send me and about the help
of these of 10 figures I can receive your money here in my city in
bank. Also it is necessary for me to
know your full name. I shall wait from you this information.
I know, when I think of you, and you think of me, and it has heated up
my soul and a body. A smile from my special person
- something which can decorate even the most dark day. One thing which
I have noticed from reading your letters, is, that
you are very strong. It seems that you have captured and have learned
from experiences of life, and it is reflected in
your letters.
I am now very glad also to me hunting to dream up a little about our
attitudes:
Night, the novel, we one in a room, we include music and Dance slowly.
I study your eyes, they - is so deep, and you look
in mine, they are full emotions. I see your lips, so soft, and I want
to kiss them. We love each another, and minute -
eternity …
Or so: - … you come back from work. I expect you. I have
Preparing very tasty dinner, and we sit at a table, you inform
me news, about your work and I only we listen to you.
Require what - be still. I only enjoy the moments which I spend with
you. Then we go in a drawing room a room, and
observe a film. We sit on a sofa, Embrace and kisses. Only quiet
evening …
Or so: - … week-end, we prepare for breakfast for our children; they
operate about us - the boy and the girl. After
breakfast we are going to go, we have Picnic then we are going to see
our friends, and we come back home Tired, but so
happy. We have lead day with our family. Children already sleep also we
one. We are engaged in love and whole night - not
enough for us. Tomorrow one more week will begin, and we know, that we
always shall be together, and the next week even
will be better----. Well, it is enough with my dreams - … I hope,
that these dreams very soon become a reality!
Write to me, please, your ideas about it. I expect impatiently your
Answer.
Hot kisses for you. Yours Diana.
mailto:milaya_diana@yahoo.com




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2008-04-08, 18:40:12
anonymous from United States  
I will send one more letter but due to the length I will just send photos in the next one~
I am sure many have received 'The Dream' email~it is usually verbatim in the emails.

You are so sweet. Thank you very much for your very nice letter.
Do you know what? I am going to tell you one thing now. Promise that you ar
e not
going to laugh at me, please….
I feel shame telling you my dream. But it happened and it was so real.
Ok, here we go.
Imagine… dark room, you are sitting on the sofa having cocktail. Su
ddenly you
see a flash in the middle of the room. You see a chair in the middle, dark
red
walls and a slim woman in the black suit and in the black hat. You can't se
e her
face but you feel that you know this woman very well. She has a red lipstic
k on
her lips and a long cigarette. She is smoking and it looks so sexy. Then she
starts dancing. She slowly takes her clothes away till the moment when she
has
little fluffy pants on her. She still has her hat on. She is dancing slowly
and
then faster and faster. Her naked body is so sensual. She comes close but y
ou
still can't see her face. It is very dark inside and there is only a candle
light. She sits on your knee and starts kissing you. Her hands are very ten
der,
you feel them everywhere on your body and your desire gets stronger with ev
ery
minute.
Then you feel yourself inside of her and your body and hers is one whole.
You lay down being very weak, relaxed and satisfied. She takes her hat away
and
you see me.
My lips are red from your kisses. You see my eyes and my lips and feel that
you
want me again and again. And our night of passion continues….
Writing this I feel that I am already very excited. I want to be close to y
ou so
much. This is only my dream. But I want it so much to come true.
I love you.
And miss you badly.

P.S I was told you that I don't smoke and drink :-) It's just a
fantasy...



--
Natalia Mignenko
lapablond007@gmail.com
my pics http://www.blonda007.nm.ru




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2008-04-08, 18:51:00
anonymous from United States  
Here are a few pics~ending for now.


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2008-04-08, 18:54:04
anonymous from United States  



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2008-04-08, 18:54:34
anonymous from United States  



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2008-04-08, 18:55:30
anonymous from United States  



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2008-04-08, 23:05:35
anonymous from United States  
Here's a woman who has written me several times but never answers any questions I ask her. I found from this site that a sure sign the person is a scammer.

Dear!!!

All this days I think about you . When I dream about us I feel better
and my mood rises!! We found each other in this world. I tell you
about my feelings because I trust you very much and think that you are
the man who will make me happy. I'll make you happy my dear. I show
you my heart as best I can. To have someone to come home to that wants
my hug and kiss,who cares about my day and,shares her day is good.
That makes for happy people that can enjoy their love making... It was
my dream and I hope it will be true soon. I think you want to meet me
not less than I. I trust you my feelings, you can trust me all
feelings, dreams and thoughts about me. I want to tell you , I had a
sexual dream about us yesterday. It's difficult to explain by words
what I feel. I want to try it for real. You may thought about it? Dear
it is inconvenient for me to speak you about our meeting slightly. I
very much want to arrive to you but it is very expensive for me it
there is very many money. Yes if I might arrive to you it it would be
fine!!! If I would have money for that what to arrive to you I would
spend them all for the sake of that that we might meet. If we met that
it the big step in our attitudes would be. We might have a campaign on
park on a beach it it would be fine. You agree? We might speak with
each other to hear our voices. Yes it would be my dream!!! But it is
very a pity to me that for me it is impossible it very dearly. Loved
if I had chance to earn this money that I would arrive to you. But in
my country I can not find such work where to me would pay such big sum
of money. It is impossible!!! Dear I very much would want that you
have written to me that you think of it. It is very important for me.
You understand? I very much wait for your answer.
Nadya.



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2008-04-09, 04:06:13
Dirk from Netherlands  
2008-04-09, 04:10:31
Dirk from Netherlands  
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