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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-04-09, 04:14:26
Dirk from Netherlands  
On Natalia Mignenko

http://www.delphifa..shtml?p=4

http://www.delphifa..html?p=15

The real one is on PornTube.

2008-04-11, 10:21:42
anonymous from Australia  
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Do your research guys there are two million more women than men in Russia and Ukraine about 1 million more women than men in the age group of 14 - 64 if you take out the too old and too young you end up with about half .

but you have to consider that will all that excess women about half will be gay due to emotional needs .

so you are left with about 750,000 possible candidates
with those left some will be too tall or too short
breasts too large or too small
face too long or too round
eyes wrong color
hair wrong color
too fat too skinny
too dark too light
wrong religion

so you are left with the short fat smelly buck toothed bitch in your bed
moral of the story is a bird in your bed is worth thousands of pictures on your computer
update of the bird in the hand worth two in the bush
the above figures arrived at by population statistics and observation
also guys check out stop-scammers.com huge data base but not as funny as this site

cheers good hunting
2008-04-13, 09:35:27
anonymous  
hello boys she gets around this blone ,regards john from preston
2008-04-13, 19:08:27
anonymous from United States  
Yep it's Ekaterina again folks. I recieved the same bs about father militarian and mum teacher blah blah blah! Here's the info given to me to send her money to. I have recieved several other photos that I am adding. Also received all the photos listed above.

My data-
Ekaterina Kropotova
Russia, Kozmodemyansk, 425354, Pushkina street 10, kvartira 47


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2008-04-13, 19:11:15
anonymous from United States  
More of Ekaterina Kropotova from Russia, Kozmodemyansk


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2008-04-13, 19:12:35
anonymous from United States  
Ekaterina Kropotova


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2008-04-13, 19:13:28
anonymous from United States  
Ekaterina Kropotova, katmoly@yahoo.com


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2008-04-13, 19:13:56
anonymous from United States  
Ekaterina Kropotova, katmoly@yahoo.com


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2008-04-14, 00:38:00
anonymous from Mexico  
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Les quiero felicitar por su sitio, no hablo inglés, entiendo poco y con ayuda de diccionario, estoy en correspondencia con una chica de rusia, aunque toavía no se si sea scammer, no me ha pedido nada de dinero, en caso de que sea así les mando sus datos.
Buen día, Have a good day
Roberto
2008-04-14, 06:37:54
[hidden] from Manchester, United States  
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ALMOST.... BUT..'NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!'
2008-04-14, 08:36:01
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-04-14, 10:19:20
anonymous from Ireland  
Many thanks people, I just relized that I'm being scamed! Well done! Please inform people about this side, this is terreble how people cheat other ... thank you again !
2008-04-15, 20:20:06
anonymous from United States  
Oh my god, knew it was tooooo goood to be true. You guys rock, 180 some pages just from this link. Lookout and THANKS !
2008-04-16, 07:48:50
anonymous from Russian Federation  
no!!! she no scam!!! i know!!!
2008-04-16, 08:32:46
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
You are right. But that scumbag who is using her pics is a scammer.

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