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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-08-24, 14:12:42
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi,I had already sussed my fair lady,she has used a lot of the crap that you have talked about.I think your site is great,it has been an education,and a great laugh
I do believe that there are blocks of flats/tenaments in cheboksary in russia,that are used by organizations purely for internet scamming,they set up this building with flash
kitchens and food,top bathrooms with jacusi's etc.and five star accomodation in general.
They then furnish themselves with around twenty computers,their girlfriends,and a few
'hungry for a life'russian girls,which they use as they think fit[groupies]I do believe the
guys running this earn in the excess of £io,ooo per week,
My 'lady of the night'is called Maria Sycheva,any body know her?her address is
Parkway Mittova 21-127 428000,Cheboksary,according to her.I have looked on various
sites,but to no avail,she must be a new one.So beware my lucky lads,she's out there.
I am from Manchester England.
2006-08-24, 14:14:55
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi,I had already sussed my fair lady,she has used a lot of the crap that you have talked about.I think your site is great,it has been an education,and a great laugh
I do believe that there are blocks of flats/tenaments in cheboksary in russia,that are used by organizations purely for internet scamming,they set up this building with flash
kitchens and food,top bathrooms with jacusi's etc.and five star accomodation in general.
They then furnish themselves with around twenty computers,their girlfriends,and a few
'hungry for a life'russian girls,which they use as they think fit[groupies]I do believe the
guys running this earn in the excess of £io,ooo per week,
My 'lady of the night'is called Maria Sycheva,any body know her?her address is
Parkway Mittova 21-127 428000,Cheboksary,according to her.I have looked on various
sites,but to no avail,she must be a new one.So beware my lucky lads,she's out there.
I am from Manchester England.


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2006-08-24, 15:24:06
[hidden] from Kuwait  
Mrs. C
I just got a message from someone calling herself Eelna . I sent her my first email .
according to your advice ,I'm waiting her reply ...


Myfirst email
Hi my new Russian friend Elena
It is so sweet of you to write,I am glad you did well let me till you about myself,I live in california in a town called San Quentin,it is a Exclusive gated.community by the pacific ocean, of I'll send you a picture of it. My wing is to the left.that is My uncle's Buford
and Maynard in the fishing boats I like to read I'm just now finishing a great noval by
Dr.seuss called green eggs and ham.I also like movies.some of my favorites are Silence of the lambs,red dragon,Summer of Sam, and Helter Skelter. and Just like you I like to
go to the gym and workout, here in our community we have a spa called The Yard.we pump iron and sometimes eachother.I have two roommates Bubba and Gental Ben.We call him Gental Ben as a joke because he is a ornery polecat as big a a bear.Bubba says we should call him Genital Ben on accout he spends most the day in gland to hand combat.But enough about me, I want to know more about you.








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2006-08-24, 15:36:50
[hidden] from Kuwait  
Mrs. C

Ths is her reply
Hello my the dear friend . I am glad to receive the news from you. I can say, it has cheered up me to heavens up from your warm words, though any pleasure for last day.
You know, when I have told to the best girlfriend that I want to try meet someone on the Internet, she thought that I was joking.Actually I think what to find the love on means of
a world network not such and unreasonable idea. In fact, as they say the wisest search for happiness in hidden and it gradually finds sense for me.People learns the most important through dialogue, even on a way of mbytes of the information. I wanted to try something new for me, that is from shares of risk and I'm begining to like it. It is interesting to me to communicate with you and I would like to get to know you better. I think it would be interesting for you to get to know as I live, what I'm doing to live, to what I aspire in my life, in fact it is interesting for me to find out more how life is going in other country, with other customs, religion, humour and outlooks, in fact there are a lot of distinctions, but a lot of things in common as well. I feel,that we shall be friends. Since I was a child I like to go in to sports: track and field athletics,swimming, I even has jumped in height a little,in general I care about my health and keep my fit, like any woman I want to look sexually.
I don't have a harmful habits, I have been brought up this way. Parents always aspired to make the high-grade person of me and anything for this purpose did not regret: neither money, nor time.In six years mum has got me to the musical school on a class of a violin which I have finished in a consequence . Since then I like to listen to the refined music. Also recently has learned to play on a guitar, rather not bad. My favourite color is green.
At leisure I play on a guitar, I do morning jogs,I go to the cinema and park of entertainments. I like to prepare various dishes and to treat friends, I know how to do it. My favourite season is autumn.In the summer it is too hot, in the winter coldly even on soul, the spring is changeable, and autumn a golden time, the 'velvet' season, a leaf falls as a star rain, you can think of desire... I probably am hopeless romantic. I shall tell so: mood it is the mirror of the soul, every romantic always has the autumn on heart..., and it means spiritual balance and harmony. I am glad, that I can communicate with you. For me your opinion on me is important , that's why I wrote this revelation. I do not mean, that it is deprived of attention, rather the other way, but I wish that when people look at me they saw not only an attractive girl, but other qualities. I like to sit near the water and to fall into a reverie. I like to spend time on the nature. Small picnic in the company of
good friends and what do you need also? At leisure I read books, basically a fantasy as I love our writers I like witty, impressionable people which easily find the way to communicate and find an output from any situation. I search for the man on which I can rely, which will not deceive and will not leave me. I want to have children very much , at least two, the boy and the girl. Well I should stop here, if something interests you in more details ask me I shall tell you. Also I wanted to ask you to write me more about yourself, where you have grown, where you live, aspirations in a life. I hope our correspondence will
proceed. Yours ELENA.
2006-08-24, 16:29:28
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hello again,thought I would add a couple more pics,on the one where she has a leather jacket on,I put it in the frame for zooming in and out etc.I clicked it like it was a slide show,it certainly did,lots of pics of ladies who are on the scammer register came up.

Any of you guys from England know our visa laws?
Manchester England.


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2006-08-24, 16:39:32
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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seems I can only send pics singularly
Manchester
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2006-08-24, 19:49:03
anonymous from United States  
My Irina uses the same letter, but has changed her hair color.

'I work in company ' GAZTEHSERVISE '. Our company is engaged in sale of gas to consumers. I work as the senior head of a sales department of gas. I on this post 1,5 years!'...




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2006-08-24, 20:59:40
anonymous from Australia  
If a Russian contacts you - YOU ARE BEING SCAMMED!!! Case closed. There are no decent Russians on the internet. They are all scum. Enjoy the photos and their stupid letters but under no circumstances should you send ANY MONEY.
2006-08-25, 01:30:50
Mrs. C from United States  
hi
poster ((I am from Manchester England.))

I don't know about your Maria Sycheva (her pics dated 2 years ago???)
address
Parkway Mittova 21-127 428000,Cheboksary

But she does have a neighbor that is a reported scammer

Tatyana Dolgusheva
Parkway Mittova 21-126, Cheboksary , Russia

her and her letters can be found on this site
http://agencyscams...usheva.htm
2006-08-25, 04:25:23
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi mrs C.
Thanks,I suppose you could say ,the plot thickens.I couldnt figure out the two year old dates either,I thought at first they might be from a family album.What about the address though?21-127,there is a lot of numbers in between,could it be a' scam centre'
Like the ones I mentioned?I am at the stage of her going to the'agent of travel'
she has taken the papers home to fill them in,and the ones from the embassy for a visa
She will write back today no doubt.sha says they have tightened up the visa laws here,because of the terrorism threat.Her english grammar gets better by the day.
Manchester
2006-08-25, 05:40:30
anonymous from United States  
This is a great thread - since I've been in contact with numerous Russian woman over the years. Never sent money or gave them personal address, maybe some personal information though. One thing always scared me about these mail-order brides is that movie Birthday Girl with Nicole Kidman who actually goes to Britain to meet her correspondant, but the he is then abducted and robbed by her associates in a frame. While a little extreme, there has to be a little truth in there which in these cases m ostly they want money to be wired over.

I've been asked for money on a few occassions, most of them just babble on and on about their home life and their abused ex boyfriend, which now they do not trust Russian men. Yeah whatever - I am talks witht one now who sends me a letter and picture everyday, even without me replying. I was away for a week and she sent an email and photo every day like clockwork. She is slowing down a little bit lately (stress at work) so she cannot write as much. She is getting a phone in her apt soon - the phone guy was ill on the day she would have gotten one. After somone above psoted anti-scam.org I looked around and sure enough I found her. Not that I was surprised, she started to say how much she loved me at 3 or 4 letters in. And it was ridicuouload amounts of love, she would go on and on in some her letters how much she loved me - it was actually a turn off.

http://www.anti-sca..1565.html

She is a cutey though.

The site only posts 4 images, I think I havel like 25 of her.




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2006-08-26, 13:04:14
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Hi mrs C,
We all look at these adds for young ladies,but has anyone thought about the reason for them trying to scam the worlds lonely male population?Surely Russia must have nothing to offer them,Russia has a very educated population,no jobs,and not a lot of prospects.
Thus one might say,'The idle over educated mind,is certainly the devil's playground.'
and although no one can condone dishonesty,surely we can be humane enough to understand why.I ,personally,have had a life,love, kids etc.and I pity the people who are
looking for one without any success,my heart goes out to them,I would suggest that until the world can be educated not to have a'Dog eat Dog'attitude,we will always be
vulnerable.
Did you know that Cheboksary in russia was where ladies were shipped off from
to destinations all over the world,sold for money?Its not that long ago,and surely,there must be some of the old attitudes towards their female population still remaining.
What do we do?I'll tell you my opinions,if we can understand the reason why,then we are fore-armed,so dont bury your heads,use them.If you jump in with both feet,without looking,you will probably find yourself up to your neck in it.Well thats my Soloman bit
said for the day,I am going to get ready,and go for a pint,[and no doubt try to find some English Beauty to escort me home]Hey you Yanks,England is full of Beautiful women,Didn't your dads and grandads tell you?
Manchester.
2006-08-27, 06:04:06
anonymous from United States  
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Does anyone know if this girl is a scammer? I checked the above ways to tell if I am being scammed but she fits almost none of the scammer profile. If anyone has any information, please post it so we can add a new scammer tothe list. Also, I may not have done the google searches correctly. Hope this can help someone else as well as myself. Thank you all so much for this site!


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2006-08-27, 06:06:49
anonymous from United States  
I forgot to add her name and where she claims to be from. The name is Julia Bessonova and she claims to be from Samara Russia. (This is an addition to the above picture)


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2006-08-27, 07:04:32
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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More of Irina. Thanks, this site is brilliant.
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Dating scammer Irina from Yaroslavl, Russia



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