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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-05-05, 04:13:49
anonymous from Sudan  
this abig scammer please take care she say from russia and wante to beafriend she say also wante to come my country her name as she say Flower Flower Daisy' and this her mail <claricelippoldnr186@gmail.com
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2008-05-05, 09:16:16
Tony from United States  
I think it would be a good idea if we started putting the word scammer on pictures we post here. Scammer watch this site and can steal pictures from her by right clicking and saving.
2008-05-05, 10:00:11
OJAS from United States  
newbies refer to cvdsupport 2008-05-04, 20:22:00 Citing Eddie from Sweden, married Russian girls wear ring on their right fourth finger
2008-05-05, 10:05:32
OJAS from United States  
Tony, The downside is picture search function will miss it, since different posters can never add text identically.
2008-05-05, 10:09:36
Tony from United States  
OJAS. I didn't think of that. Good point. Thanks.
2008-05-05, 11:33:56   (updated: 2008-05-05, 12:03:19)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
The girl with the hat was posted several times (with different identities). PictureSearch doesn't recognize the pic, because it isn't a JEPG-file.

Yevgeniya Mutyuryova is here too. Lots of 'Y's in the name. The Russian language and the Cyrillic alphabet don't know the 'Y'.

I post the 'Hatgirl' oncemore. Just to check if PictureSearch recognizes the pic.

No. It doesn't recognize this type of files. Maybe Tony can give some professional advice here.


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2008-05-05, 13:01:57
anonymous from United States  
Add one more to the list of scammers .... 'Elena Bodrukhina' <prettyukr@gmail.com>
Fun to chat with, but will send 3 emails asking if you got her last one or check spam filter.
Elena Bodrukhina
prettyukr@gmail.com
Here is some of my pics www.prettyg.ho.ua

The scammer hook ....

best way to send money is to do it via Western Union
or MoneyGram. It is an easy and quick way to get it.
It is necessary to know the full name of receiver.
My full name is Elena Bodrukhina.
Kiev, Ukraine
And after sending money, the one who is getting money should know an MTCN
(Money Transfer Control Number), the sum of money that was sent and the full name of the sender.
Also you can send money on-line!!!
2008-05-05, 13:48:06
OJAS from United States  
(Future) delphi search hat girl Dating scammer liana http://www.delphifa..3077.shtml
2008-05-05, 15:28:04
OJAS from United States  
Among the most important considerations for delphi (as with any database) is searchability. I will try in addition to a catch phrase (like hat girl) a picture link (1) to the picture itself (2) the earliest link in that batch of posts. Tony has a good idea about tagging photos with SCAMMER text, to prevent future stealing. Maybe adding text comments on whatever strikes you, some catch phrases like hat girl, can help future text search, since original photos will be missed by picture search engine, after modifying (such as adding text). I will see how this works out, will appreciate feedbacks / improvements.

Hat girl http://www.delphifa..p=0#86839
http://www.delphifa..3077.shtml
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2008-05-05, 15:54:46
anonymous from Netherlands  



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2008-05-05, 15:56:48
anonymous  
Rose from, Nigiria,
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2008-05-05, 15:57:36
anonymous  
Rose from, Nigiria,
2008-05-05, 15:58:26
anonymous from Netherlands  

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2008-05-05, 15:58:53
anonymous from Netherlands  



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2008-05-05, 21:33:40
MBanhagel@aol.com from United States  
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I feel like a dumb fuck. I sent way too much money. Can we trace the Western Union transfer to find out where the money was picked up? It took a lot of work, but I was able to get the phone number of the Russian travel agency where she allegedly booked her flight. I called & got an anwering machine. I'm calling them again tonight. My scammer called herself Mariya Bahtina from Settlement Silicate in Russia. Anybody have any more advice? MKB

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