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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-06-19, 17:23:55
eeezzzrider@hotmail.com from United States  
Have been communicating with this girl for several weeks. Says her name Is
Yuliya Gordeeva and she is a masseus and lives in Suslonger Russia. She says now that she has fallen completely in love with me and wants no one else and you know the rest of all of this. She has asked for no money yet, but was shocked at the expense for her to dothis. I am just curious if anyone else is receiving her 'love letters' Today is
6-19-2008
2008-06-19, 18:17:17
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-19, 18:27:26   (updated: 2008-06-19, 18:32:33)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-19, 18:55:24
anonymous from Netherlands  
Ow. Thank you much.
2008-06-20, 03:24:27
anonymous from Belgium  
Hello,

I received the following email. Have a look to the from address. That guy is not so smart :-)

From: 'Elvira' <geoffreybangs@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:04 +0400
To: <bart.vandekerckhove@skynet.be>
Subject: Hi from Elvira!


Hello from Elvira
I am glad, that you have written to me!!
I search serious relations; the partner in life is necessary for me!
I want to tell a little about myself: I live in the city of Tomsk with my parents!
I work in car-care center as the manager!
My work is pleasant to me, though takes away a lot of time!
My friends count me the cheerful, interesting girl!
I romantic believe in fairy tales, I want to find the prince!
My growth 167 see, weight of 54 kg.
I love music, cinema, to read books!
I hope, I shall like you!
Now I write to you with e-mail my friends.
If I have interested you, please write to me on mine e-mail:
princess20077@rambler.ru
Answer me, please, questions:
Whether you want children?
What do you want from a life and from our acquaintance?
I shall wait from you for the answer, and tell to me a little about myself.
Write to me.
I wish you successful day.
Yours Elvira.


2008-06-20, 07:59:32
anonymous from United States  
This girl got me for $3500.00 Or at least I knew it was a girl. It could have been a man or a whole team.

EMC
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2008-06-20, 08:01:05
anonymous from United States  
This girl got me for $3500.00 Or at least I knew it was a girl. It could have been a man or a whole team.

EMC
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Dating scammer Diana mabou



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2008-06-20, 08:31:26
OJAS from United States  
EMC, Sorry you got scammed http://www.delphifa..?p=6#77792
2008-06-20, 12:17:50
anonymous from United States  
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Yes, about Mariya Ustyugova. I've received 7 messages to date and 4 pics. I knew right away she's a scammer, but have been playing her along to see how far she'll go. And to wait for the usual 'I need money for bla bla bla' story, which just arrived.

Here's another pic to watch for.


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2008-06-20, 23:03:32
anonymous from Netherlands  

Hy
I received the following email.
Same email as a gentleman from Belgium




Hello from Elvira
I am glad, that you have written to me!!
I search serious relations; the partner in life is necessary for me!
I want to tell a little about myself: I live in the city of Tomsk with my parents!
I work in car-care center as the manager!
My work is pleasant to me, though takes away a lot of time!
My friends count me the cheerful, interesting girl!
I romantic believe in fairy tales, I want to find the prince!
My growth 167 see, weight of 54 kg.
I love music, cinema, to read books!
I hope, I shall like you!
Now I write to you with e-mail my friends.
If I have interested you, please write to me on mine e-mail:
princess20077@rambler.ru
Answer me, please, questions:
Whether you want children?
What do you want from a life and from our acquaintance?
I shall wait from you for the answer, and tell to me a little about myself.
Write to me.
I wish you successful day.
Yours Elvira.
2008-06-21, 15:52:29
eeezzzrider@hotmail.com from United States  
This website works vey well! I appreciate it. I have found several of the pictures Yuliya Gordeeva from Suslonger sent me on this website. Some have different names and towns. This name and same towns also come up as different picture. Too bad we cannot get to know the pretty girls that this a__hole uses as pictures of him/herself. This series of pics this scammer sent me cover this young ladies life for a period of about ten years. Anyway, I am going to leave with still another pic and I hope someone else can use these to protect themselves as I did. Great work!!!
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Dating scammer Yuliya Solovyeva



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2008-06-22, 11:05:16
anonymous from Kelowna, Canada  
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I was talking to a girl from Kiev in the Ukraine,her name was Nataliya Borisova.She found me on a dating site and we started writing to each other.I was so convinced that this was really going to happen.The red flags went up when she wouldn't give me her adress so I could send her flowers and get the delivery guy to take a picture of her to see if this was real.She told me that she had a visa and plane ticket and was going to come to see me.Then she didn't have the full amount of money for the plane ticket and needed about $500.00 dollars and I refused to send her money and then everything ended and her last letter she told me that I'm like all the Ukraine men and I haven't heard from her again.I was thinking that this girl was not for real and am happy that she is getting red flagged.The letters posted on this site are exacacly what Nataliya wrote to me.It was very exciting for a while but don't send money to someone that youv'e never meet before.I got educated by doing my homework before doing anything with Nataliya Borisova.
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Dating scammer Yuliya Bechneva
Dating scammer Yuliya Bechneva



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2008-06-22, 18:01:00
anonymous  
Hello and thanks for a great site. Is nice to know i am not the only one but is sad there are so many.
Has got to the stage now that you cannot trust anyone on the internet, they are all out to rip you off. I have 4 woman on the go at the moment and none of them are Russian.
I found Russian women the easiest to detect as scammers but when you come in contact with a Nigerian white woman scammer you havent seen anything. They will pick at you like picking at a healing scab. They will think of the smallest details to lure you to gain there confidence and will become involved with you. IF YOU ARE CONTACTED BY A NIGERIAN WHITE WOMEN AVOID HER LIKE THE PLAGUE - their is a 99.9% chance you will get ripped off big time. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

WATCH OUT FOR CAMGIRLS THAT CONTACT YOU - they are only fishing for new customers

ANOTHER WOMAN CLAIMS SHE AUSTRALIAN LIVING IN SOUTH AFRICA WITH HER MOTHER - she contacted me and told me she was coming out to live with me. This woman is incredible looking and has a body to match. Will send sexy photos but claims she does not have a boy friend and is still a virgin at 27- YEAH RIGHT. Why would a gorgeous 27 year old go for me a 43 year old (really 53) does not sound logical. A lot of these woman are that new that they are not even on scamming sites yet. I have not finished with this one yet and am just waitng for her next move, it shudders me to think

BE VERY WARY OF THE NEW WAVE OF YOUNG WOMEN THAT WANT TO GET ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH YOU- if you want to have a good time by all means BUT DO NOT FALL FOR HER or else it will cost you and she will break your heart. They dont give a dam about you and will go to great lenghts to make sure they hook you and will work you like a real sucker. I suspect the Australian woman falls into this category. I will keep my fly closed and my hand firmly on my wallet with this one.
DONT LET YOUR EMOTIONS TAKE OVER- STAY FOCUSSED AND IF THEY WANT MONEY YOU WILL KNOW THEN THEY ARE LOUSEY BLOOD SUCKING BITCHES

2008-06-22, 19:20:03
anonymous  
Most of these girls are on cherryblossoms.com. look there for your girl first, I have seen them there. The game is the same, as some of them are very goo and go for the big one all at once.
2008-06-23, 01:51:03
anonymous from Guatemala  
HOLA ME GUSTARIA CONOCERTE..CARLOS
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