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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-06-23, 01:52:16
anonymous from Guatemala  
ME ENCANTARIA SER TU AMIGO..BESITOS..CARLOS..charlyron2000@yahoo.com
2008-06-23, 10:08:12
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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what are the chances of Zoya the person I have been in communication with looking just the same as Ani Lorak the singer,check out the picture I was sent avoid at all cost email address zoia_nice_gerl@mail.ru
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2008-06-23, 10:26:46
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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what are the chances of Zoya the person I have been in communication with looking just the same as Ani Lorak the singer,check out the picture I was sent avoid at all cost email address zoia_nice_gerl@mail.ru
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2008-06-23, 12:11:49
Steve_dux from Australia  
@ anonymous 2008-06-22, 18:01:00

Most of the Russian and African scammers are actually MEN and not the woman in the photo, they are also innocent victims!
2008-06-23, 12:21:41   (updated: 2008-06-23, 12:23:37)
OJAS from United States  
2008-06-23, 19:55:15   (updated: 2008-06-23, 19:58:06)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
The George W. Bush-character is off. We were talking about Ani Lorak (Ukrainian, not Russian)...

http://nl.youtube.c..Jf0aKQRvA

http://nl.youtube.c..Q03amvLuo

http://en.wikipedia..Ani_Lorak




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2008-06-23, 20:15:12   (updated: 2008-06-23, 20:19:39)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Some people just post without reading what others post.

Anon Brazil,

Your scammer is here already. How many links do you want above the pics you post? Thank you!

2008-06-23, 20:26:16   (updated: 2008-06-23, 20:41:28)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Ani Lorak. This is probably where they stole the pics... Facebook. The most silly site to put your private pics on! Thousands of innocent people post their private pics on sites like Facebook. It all seems so innocent. Untill the pics appear on antiscamsites like this one. Just don't do it!!!

The pic? I stole/copied it from there. Don't worry. I won't set up a scammerbusiness. Ani Lorak? Don't worry about her. She wanted to be famous. And she is now.

http://www.facebook..383166523




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2008-06-23, 21:19:16
anonymous from United States  
yes She approached me as Lisa and wanted me to cash some checks she was unable to cash as she was stranded in Nigeria ,when she travelled there from Texas ,USA, for work as a import trader.She sent the checks they were fradulent ,I told her the bank would not cash them and she disappeared We spoke for 6 months or so ,SHe would also ask for money for food, sickness Meds , etc,These woamn are only wanting to scam you Ok please learn from the mistake of the many who are trying to worn you here on this site,online dating can be risky business bemare and take heed Ok
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2008-06-24, 00:28:18
[hidden] from United Kingdom  
I want to post a reply with regard to the Zoia topic, as I to think I am being scammed with this profile
2008-06-24, 07:59:12
999MoreEvil from Australia  
here is another scammer I ran into and have baited with the email from a scammer with the names changed to suit current scammer and sent the mail scammer photos with plea for money and help help was forth coming but with conditions of my bank account number I guess but I declined that other however I did post naked photos they asked for got them of a known site just cropped their banner off and posted them now this scammer is requesting money to but camera to send me naked photos , and yeah I just dropped in from space and don't know about these scams .
goes by the name of Marina uses Bat professional email program
email address marrinryd@rambler.ru

and the photos below cheers to all ( note the rings and the baby bump on the photos )


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2008-06-24, 08:00:10
999MoreEvil from Australia  
the other Photo with baby Bump


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2008-06-24, 08:04:29
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Also received 5 unsolicited emails same photo same letter 2 different email address

email address 1 annachkagiza@gmail.com
email address 2 annaastasia@gmail.com


take care and beware

cheers to all :)


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2008-06-24, 08:08:22
anonymous from United States  
Dear Sweet little Anna is writing to me as well. She or He slipped up and emailed me for a second time her initial letter. So, I am quite sure she is up to no good.
2008-06-24, 13:36:08
[hidden] from United Kingdom  
ani lorak

comments made by dirk - what a prat!

have you any idea how long it takes to go through the albums.
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