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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-06-18, 17:10:35
anonymous  



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2008-06-18, 17:43:32
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
sssssss

koslona@rambler.ru -> http://www.delphifa..857.shtml

2008-06-19, 12:55:08   (updated: 2008-06-19, 13:11:23)
Droog from Russian Federation  
Seems like scammers started to use pics of famous Ukranian singer Taisia Povaliy (see post
999MoreEvil from Australia 2008-06-15, 09:30:03 above)
http://www.peoples...to0_1.html
2008-06-19, 14:50:43
OJAS from United States  
Spasibo Droog, here is the stolen picture http://www.peoples...iy_1.shtml the scammer sent to 999MoreEvil. And thanks mate, one more lie exposed, one more hurdle for the scammer!
2008-06-19, 16:58:47
anonymous from United States  
This girl has fallen 'IN LOVE' with me and wants only to be with me. Todays date is 6-19-2008. Her name is Yuliya. I am curious as to if she is currently communicating and falling or has fallen in Love with anyone else
2008-06-19, 17:01:01
Carlos  
This is only one e-mail that the girl on the picture sent me. The photo of the girl with the pink top and the previous ones were charged by my. She is the same girl.


GREETINGS my dear Carlos. I wish to tell, that I do not become angry
about you. You the good person. And I speak you that if you wish to
help{assist} me, I shall be glad to your help. Also I shall tell to you
many thanks. But if you are not ready to help{assist} me I shall not
take offence. Our attitudes{relations} will remain as.
Simply I to lose the passport and it is necessary to do{make} it{him}
again. You understand, that for loss of the passport the militia would
give 3 days what to pay to me the penalty 350 Euro. Also what to restore
it{him} to me it would be necessary to pay 150 Euro. I am very upset,
that that to me has occured{happened} I till now cannot understand as it
to happen. I sit and I sob. Because I when was not in such position. And
I shall receive the salary only on July, 15th. And if I shall not pay
the penalty not slowly business will transfer{transmit} in court. And in
court will give even more penalty. So to me any more whom to ask.
Friends too do not have money. You one have remained with me. I ask you
help{assist}. I shall receive the salary and to send you back your
money. I should pay the penalty only. You spoke that to me can
help{assist}. Here data of my friend:
The country: Russia
City: Cheboksary
Name: Sergey
Surname: Grigoryev
The address: Lenin's street 54 apartment 36


Yours Kristina.
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2008-06-19, 17:23:55
eeezzzrider@hotmail.com from United States  
Have been communicating with this girl for several weeks. Says her name Is
Yuliya Gordeeva and she is a masseus and lives in Suslonger Russia. She says now that she has fallen completely in love with me and wants no one else and you know the rest of all of this. She has asked for no money yet, but was shocked at the expense for her to dothis. I am just curious if anyone else is receiving her 'love letters' Today is
6-19-2008
2008-06-19, 18:17:17
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-19, 18:27:26   (updated: 2008-06-19, 18:32:33)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-06-19, 18:55:24
anonymous from Netherlands  
Ow. Thank you much.
2008-06-20, 03:24:27
anonymous from Belgium  
Hello,

I received the following email. Have a look to the from address. That guy is not so smart :-)

From: 'Elvira' <geoffreybangs@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:21:04 +0400
To: <bart.vandekerckhove@skynet.be>
Subject: Hi from Elvira!


Hello from Elvira
I am glad, that you have written to me!!
I search serious relations; the partner in life is necessary for me!
I want to tell a little about myself: I live in the city of Tomsk with my parents!
I work in car-care center as the manager!
My work is pleasant to me, though takes away a lot of time!
My friends count me the cheerful, interesting girl!
I romantic believe in fairy tales, I want to find the prince!
My growth 167 see, weight of 54 kg.
I love music, cinema, to read books!
I hope, I shall like you!
Now I write to you with e-mail my friends.
If I have interested you, please write to me on mine e-mail:
princess20077@rambler.ru
Answer me, please, questions:
Whether you want children?
What do you want from a life and from our acquaintance?
I shall wait from you for the answer, and tell to me a little about myself.
Write to me.
I wish you successful day.
Yours Elvira.


2008-06-20, 07:59:32
anonymous from United States  
This girl got me for $3500.00 Or at least I knew it was a girl. It could have been a man or a whole team.

EMC
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2008-06-20, 08:01:05
anonymous from United States  
This girl got me for $3500.00 Or at least I knew it was a girl. It could have been a man or a whole team.

EMC
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2008-06-20, 08:31:26
OJAS from United States  
EMC, Sorry you got scammed http://www.delphifa..?p=6#77792
2008-06-20, 12:17:50
anonymous from United States  
rating
Yes, about Mariya Ustyugova. I've received 7 messages to date and 4 pics. I knew right away she's a scammer, but have been playing her along to see how far she'll go. And to wait for the usual 'I need money for bla bla bla' story, which just arrived.

Here's another pic to watch for.


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