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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-07-05, 09:44:00
anonymous from Lebanon  
you good to be wife
2008-07-05, 20:45:29
999MoreEvil from Australia  
I have been busy of late working and planning my trip to Europe and Russia to meet some real contacts so my posts are few and far between but I have some more unsolicited emails addresses and photos to post just to keep you updated in a hope to prevent peope from being scammed.
two different email addresses but same photo and I won't bore you with the content of the email unless there is a request as it is the usual bull

Cheers to all

annaastasiya@gmail.com
annoochca@gmail.com

photo used to scam


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2008-07-05, 20:49:26
999MoreEvil from Australia  
and the other recent unsolicited email address
address
janabazanava@googlemail.com
Cheers to all
and photo below


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2008-07-05, 21:00:10
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Oh I almost forgot a couple more with and without photos
one has bounced all over the world by the header

from smtp.doneohx.com ([188.116.175.240]) by mtu23.bigping.com with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:45:48 -0200
from smtp18.yenddx.com ([Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:37:42 -0200])     by asx121.turbo-inline.com with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:37:42 -0200
from unknown (198.60.233.125)     by external.newsubdomain.com with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:19:58 -0200
from [95.24.102.235] by snmp.otwaloow.com with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:08:09 -0200
from smtp-server1.cfdenselr.com ([Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:56:13 -0200])     by smtp-server1.cfdenselr.com with ASMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:56:13 -0200

email address in body of text rbamboourt@yahoo.co.uk

cheers to all

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2008-07-05, 21:01:01
999MoreEvil from Australia  
Oh I almost forgot a couple more with and without photos
one has bounced all over the world by the header

from smtp.doneohx.com ([188.116.175.240]) by mtu23.bigping.com with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:45:48 -0200
from smtp18.yenddx.com ([Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:37:42 -0200])     by asx121.turbo-inline.com with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:37:42 -0200
from unknown (198.60.233.125)     by external.newsubdomain.com with SMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:19:58 -0200
from [95.24.102.235] by snmp.otwaloow.com with ESMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:08:09 -0200
from smtp-server1.cfdenselr.com ([Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:56:13 -0200])     by smtp-server1.cfdenselr.com with ASMTP; Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:56:13 -0200

email address in body of text rbamboourt@yahoo.co.uk

cheers to all

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2008-07-05, 21:14:53
anonymous from Australia  
And this I have never written to but got a letter demanding I reply

email address beautifulfine65@yahoo.com
Oh I also forgot to mention I have started to report the scammers to the mail server as abuse@mailserver.what ever and asking to have the account closed and the account owner blocked from further accounts as spammer
cheers to all

Photo Below


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2008-07-05, 21:21:38   (updated: 2008-07-05, 21:25:01)
999MoreEvil from Australia  
do not reply to emails like this unless you want to get lots of unsolicited emails from scammers

originating email address zolhxijvygdh@blackindians.com
It may be worth notifying the originating email address owner to update their anti virus program or to use Trojan remover as their machine is infected

Do not ignore me please,
I found your email somewhere and now decided to write you.
Let me know if you do not mind. If you want I can send you some pictures of me.
I am a nice pretty girl. Don't reply to this email.
Email me direclty at djodi@dreasts.info


cheers to all
2008-07-06, 03:14:35
999MoreEvil from Australia  
and a new unsolicited email today

from guess who Anna and it came with attached docx file (my data full.docx )

email address annawithheart@gmail.com

cheers to all

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Dating scammer Kristina Nagorova
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia
Dating scammer Juliya from Kirov, Russia
Dating scammer Juliya from Kirov, Russia
Scam Artist Anna from Yoshkar-Ola



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2008-07-06, 06:11:06
OJAS from United States  
999MoreEvil, Thanks mate. A note about the pic 2008-07-06, 03:14:35 http://www.delphifa..p=2#91193
This close-up may help identify her http://delphifaq.co..=28#91093

Cheers from the States
2008-07-06, 11:06:05
anonymous  
Do you guys think Im being scammed?
My dear thanks you for the letter, I am very pleased to receive it!
How you today how there is your day? Dear mine I am glad that you very
well understand me! It very much pleases me. Your news are very good
today! I want to inform you that in your city in your country there is
this bank Money Garam, I also think that in your country there is a
bank the western Union. So you could go in these banks and send money
for my name! Dear mine I very much want that you knew, my parents all
the same want to give money to you personally when we together shall
be. They are afraid. So you should understand all this! All of them
will send equally to you of money back. But money while is not present
at them! It is very bad, but they soon will! So my dear as faster you
will send money, I at once can go to pay for all full travel, I need
in 1300 euros, and this sum includes all full travel, air tickets
there and back. The visa for 30 days. Dear mine today I go to take
holiday., From my work! I want that time we carried out all this
together. I want that you also knew that I am very serious and for me
it is very important to have only serious attitudes! So understand me
correctly! I very much want to learn each other! It is a pity to me
but I do not have personal bank account, hope that you understand me
correctly. Write to me as soon as possible... Sincerely yours
love..... My kisses for you!
2008-07-06, 12:14:15
OJAS from United States  
2008-07-06, 14:51:00
anonymous  
Be carefull with 'Ekaterina' ekaterina.krass@gmail.com
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Dating scammer Ekaterina



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2008-07-07, 07:10:56
OJAS from United States  
2008-07-07, 12:39:41
anonymous from United Kingdom  
yejoaquin eva' <petersjbd@danielicorp.com>s
'aannyytochka@gmail.comjoaquin eva' <petersjbd@danielicorp.com>ddresses
'anna' just contacted me with these addresses
2008-07-07, 12:52:57
OJAS from United States  
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