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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-07-08, 15:16:37
xavier89emma90@yahoo.com from United States  
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what advice do you have on U.S. websites like ;;amateuremate.com,xxxblackbook.com,singlesnet.com,heartdetective.com. etc.etc
2008-07-08, 15:25:40
xavier89emma90@yahoo.com from United States  
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what advice do you have on U.S. websites like ;;amateuremate.com,xxxblackbook.com,singlesnet.com,heartdetective.com. etc.etc
2008-07-08, 15:25:55
xavier89emma90@yahoo.com from United States  
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what advice do you have on U.S. websites like ;;amateuremate.com,xxxblackbook.com,singlesnet.com,heartdetective.com. etc.etc
2008-07-08, 23:03:52
anonymous from United States  
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There is a scammer by the name of Augil that is scamming recently. She will even call you on the telephone. She's very good and doesn't ask for money until you've chatted for about a month.

Scammer:

Aigul Azatowa

her email is:

luna@globrus.net
2008-07-09, 11:55:45
anonymous from United States  
Met a girl named Lilya from Angarsk Russia, she too is very pretty, but never asks for money and says going to visit USA to work, never talked about any other stuff besides having a friend to show her around. Is she familiar or a scam?


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2008-07-09, 12:49:26
anonymous from United States  
Is there any danger in giving out your home address or an airport a few hours away? I did it as a test.
2008-07-09, 14:38:28   (updated: 2008-07-09, 14:41:56)
OJAS from United States  
Anon US, you are at liberty to choose how much of personal info to expose electronically http://www.delphifa..?p=8#19405
2008-07-09, 19:43:53
eeezzzrider@hotmail.com from United States  
Here is the latest unsolicited email I received complete with a picture. It is from Krista Dutton with the email address a-bad-smell@aerographic.com. Note in the text I am to write her at a different address. I googled both address' and came up nothing. I also checked the pic here and came up zero. I think I have seen this pic here and it has been doctored. This one certainly does smell bad to me!!!


Hello! I am bored tonight. I am nice girl that would like to chat with you. Email me at Ebba@OfficialGLo.info only, because I am using my friend's email to write this. I would like to share some of my pics.



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2008-07-09, 20:15:29
OJAS from United States  
eeezzzrider, thanks bud. http://www.hotrikki.com/
2008-07-10, 11:00:19
[hidden] from United States  
At present have been contacted and conversations are ongoing.email add. is:nuro4ka777@gmail.com name:Anna Pawlovskaja.after 2 weeks is asking for $880 for visa passport and insurance to come to Texas,and says she loves me and i'm the only one for her.Am stringing her on so I can do some checking.I haven't sent any money!She tried to get me to send money via www.moneygram.com I was originally contacted by her at cherryblossoms.com Her profile says she lives in berlin germany!If that isn't a givaway I don't know what is.


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2008-07-10, 13:12:00
anonymous from Finland  
I suppous this is a new form to start scamming?

From: 'it's Yulia from Russia' <lo_ve_lee@yahoo.com>

Subject: Hello it's Mariya from e-kontakt...

Hello. This letter is possible will seem for you to little bit strange... But I will try to explain for you who I'am. And whence I have received your personal Email. my Name is Yulia I have received your personal email by means of marriage Agency 'Angel's' it conducts close cooperation in a dating site e-kontakt.se ... On this site I have received registration through marriage agency... For the reason that I do not understand the Swedish language I asked managers of this agency to help to find to me the decent man from the Scandinavian countries for this purpose what to have possibility to creation of warm relations. Now in expectation of your answer I can hope only that I can find the pleasant interlocutor and the good friend in your person... With impatience I will look forward to hearing from you on my Personal e-box : yliazaia@yahoo.com ... Your new Friend Yulia.


In the e-mail adress the name is 'Yulia' and in the subject 'Mariya'. I have not find the Marriage agency 'Angel's' but the dating site 'e-kontakt.se' exist. It is a Swedish dating site but I have never been in contact with it in any way. I do also received one photo but I think it useless to post it to here. The IP adresses I find in the header give the locations of USA (Yahoo?) and Frankfurt, Germany.
2008-07-10, 14:56:28
OJAS from United States  
2008-07-10, 21:26:52
anonymous  
Yulila has been speeking with me as well for about a week but has not requested any money to date, However I believe that is what it was leading too so I googled her and found these comments. Thank for posting your cencerns!
This image was also posted here:
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2008-07-11, 05:31:59
anonymous from India  
2008-07-11, 19:21:02
anonymous from United States  
This is Jeniffer Lucus also goes by Janny or Jen. Her latest email is singlejanny@hotmail.com the others are soulmatefindjenny@yahoo.com, soulmatejenny28@yahoo.com. She has been to scam money out of me since we have been talking. her father died and left her a lot of money but the momey was in a cashiers check and Logas, Nigeria will not cash it for her. She also said, She had money for a plane ticket and could I send her the balance so she could be here with me all she needed was $150.00 at the time. when I told her I didn't have it, she wanted to know how much could I send. I said, none. the next day she told me her client who handles her money would send me a check so I could cash it through my bank and would I send her more money so she could send it to me. I refused again. she went on about this for weeks. well one day i got a UPS package with a check in it for $4000 from someone named Renee Nelson, staying at a Hilton Hotel in Silver Springs,MD. I thought to my self wow. Jenny IMed me just as the package arrived and asked me have I received it yet and would I go cash it for her. I went to the bank and they called the bank where the check was suspose to made out fromand they said it was a forged check. When I told Jenny this she got outraged and told me to go to a check cashing place and they would cash it. I told her I am not going to jail for anyboby and she can have the check back. She tried to accuse me of ripping her off. I told her I will send her the check back and that it was no good to me or anyone. I never heard from her after that. so guys watch out she will not give up on anything.
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Another dating / chat scam - USA/ Nigeria connection



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