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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-07-18, 16:24:57
anonymous from Belgium  
Got scammed by Aigul = Liliya [flower@globrus.info], she's so dangerous good
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Dating scammer Liliya



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2008-07-18, 16:39:49
OJAS from United States  
Belgium, Sorry you got scammed http://www.delphifa..?p=6#77792
2008-07-19, 23:21:06
anonymous from Australia  
anyone know this babe, calls herself olga qwert,from Russia, just received a email from her, must admit very good looking babe


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2008-07-20, 17:44:13
OJAS from United States  
@newbie Oz mates - E-mail this link to Aussies for checking the inner-links are functional. Thanks.
Http://www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f2662.shtml?p=4#98846
http://www.delphifa..?p=4#98846
2008-07-21, 10:01:18
anonymous from France  
Hey!!! Why didn't I see this before! Fuck! I sent my photos to a Rus girl (I don't know if she is a scammer - stopped writing by herself). I suddenly found this site searching for a girl (Gift Bahi) from Ivory coast whose supposed late father was the managing director of FAN INDUSTRIAL COMPANY and advisor to head of the state. I am giving her photo here, I hope this helps.

Ananda Mookerjee
2008-07-21, 11:12:23
Tony from United States  
Here photo didn't show but I've heard the name before. The one from the Ivory Coast is a scammer for sure.
2008-07-23, 11:37:36
OJAS from United States  
Scammers are predominantly MEN regardless whose photos they send http://www.delphifa..p=8#100156
2008-07-23, 21:01:45
anonymous from United States  
Beware of this scammer
This image was also posted here:
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer Natalia



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2008-07-23, 21:02:16
anonymous from United States  
Beware of this scammer
2008-07-23, 23:43:11
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-07-26, 07:00:45
anonymous from Ireland  
I have received 4 emails from some half wit going by the name of 'Natalya', she claims that she is using her personal email address.... zavarka2001@yadex.com. She claims to have good intentions, etc etc, the usual rubbish. She has also (or whoever) sent me photos, some half naked! Anyway, I sent a reply to say that I had forwarded on these messages with photos to the approriate authorities. After having sent this, these clowns sent me more pictures of this Russian girl under a different topic, what is the story??
Can you please advise??
Thankyou
2008-07-26, 07:17:56
OJAS from United States  
Scammers do not read mails before the money letter http://www.delphifa..p=13#39806
2008-07-26, 09:09:15
anonymous from United States  
Are you going to post the half naked pictures for the rest of us to enjoy?
2008-07-26, 12:36:40
pazamm@tin.it  
Paolo from Genoa (It ):
Pay great attention to Elena Kurak from Kazan ( Russia ) and Tatyana Efremova rom Zelenodolsk ( Russia ), they are two dirty scammers, the two greatest whores in the world, stay far away from them.
Their email addresses are: elenoochkaa@ gmail.com or elenaaa-555@mail.ru and zakrevushka@gmail.com.
However I reported them to the police: I hope very strongly to make them punished for my deceived feelings and my stolen money.
Thank you to everyone, Paolo.
2008-07-26, 19:10:20
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Such a pity that the flags are gone!

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