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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-08-22, 15:53:09
anonymous from United States  
I had a fun couple of weeks playing with her. She went by..Miss Marina [swet222princesa@yahoo.com]

Found me on Match.com. This was the fourth future bride that had contacted me so I knew it was all a game.
Was supposed to be a nurse coming to the states to work blah..blah..blah.

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Dating scammer Tanya



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2008-08-24, 12:58:16   (updated: 2008-08-24, 13:02:55)
rmcsherdon54@yahoo.com from United States  
Hey Guys... I,m Looking for this woman. She goes by Shannon Olsen Heston in this picture. JUST BE CAREFULL with this one. She seams lagit but beleive me she is not. You can trick her by being better than she is. Use your Computer and phone at the same time. You will see. GUYS I WILL BE BACK sooner or later. Robin
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Dating scammer Osei Kwesi Accra Ghana kind_osei@hotmail.com from Accra, Ghana



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2008-08-24, 20:03:46
anonymous  
I had one through 'plenty more fish' today. This is my third scam attempt!

email sent to me was: mosrokat@rambler.ru
2008-08-24, 20:04:19
anonymous  
UNDER THE NAME OF 'OLGA'
2008-08-25, 19:11:12   (updated: 2008-08-25, 19:13:08)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2008-08-25, 20:45:15   (updated: 2008-08-25, 20:47:18)
molinric@gmail.com from United States  
(quote)Hello My Lovely Man And My Sun Rick!!!
Rick, I am very glad to receive your fine. Your letters the
finest, that are in my life. They every day bring a smile. Rick, I
think of us much. I so am glad that that I have found you. Rick, I
searched for you all life. Rick, I very much wish to be with you
all life. I am assured that only you can make me happy. We shall be
happy together. You can help us with you Rick!!!
Rick, I have learned, where is Western Union in Cheboksary. I about
it learned all. What to send money my full name Irina Popyonowa would
be necessary. Also to you tiresomely to know Western Union address.
Here it:

POST RUSSIA
ELGERA 16A
CHEBOKSARY,
428025

Rick what to receive, money control number which to you will tell
there, your full name and Western Union address will be necessary to
me, whence you send money. To me that you care of us is very pleasant.
I to you very strongly love my prince. My native too are very glad.
They wish our of good luck. I tell to mum and the grandmother about
you much. They speak that you very good person. Mum speaks that it not
when did not see me such happy as now, it it is very pleasant to see a
smile on my person. It transfers you thanks that you do me happy. I
you very strongly love I all I shall give for the sake of you.
Rick, I wish to feel your gentle hands all your caress love and
passion. I very much like your dreams. I very much want, that they
would more likely be executed. I am am overflown with feelings, I
would not like to be with you. I am happy what be fast we can together
for ever!
Rick when I think about our the first meetings, I am am overflown
with feelings. I represent, as I leave, from the plane I go, and I see
you, you too have seen me also we run towards each other. When we come
nearer, I jump on you and I start to kiss and speak you, that I love
you. We there long cost and we look in the face each other on our
persons a smile, we cannot come off from each other. Then I embrace,
each other, we go to receive my luggage. When we reach the house. We
sit down a table around of us burn candles, we sit, we talk, we eat,
then you approach to me lift and bear in sleeping. We are covered with
passion, we undress on the move we kiss, you press me to a wall remove
from me all I undress you gradually we become absolutely naked. When
we reach a bedroom in an impulse of passion we fall on a bed and we
make love during long time. About having thought of it I was very
strongly excited. I cannot wait when this all to happen I hope that
that it will be very fast. Rick, I very strongly love you and I
shall love eternally.
I gently embrace you and passionately whole I hope that very soon I
shall make it!
With love yours and only yours Irina(unquote)
All of this after I told her that I had been robbed,of some $22,000.00, wanted to make a sandwich with her and her 'Mum', wanted her to perform Oral Sex on me, anal too.
Just cannot ruffle her feathers, which leads me to believe that they are simply sending form letters. I am about to get nasty with these folks. Watch out for Irina.
Beautiful Young Woman, but I am old, fat and out of shape. To believe that she/me is laughable.
I am having fun, trying to trip these idiots up.


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2008-08-25, 21:36:16
res0b24r@yahoo.com from United States  
where is the nude pictures of her can you send us to?
2008-08-26, 02:58:23
anonymous from United Arab Emirates  
This I recieved just a couple of hours...

Date: 08/26/2008 10:49 am
Subject: Hello
Message: Hello
How are you doing in life, I Want to introduce my self to you before i could go further, i am lady tessy by name i came accross your contact at
(friendster.com) which really sound so interesting of you so i decided to drop a note to let you know that i am intrested in you for friendship that may lead to serious relationship,Please if you are interested i will like you to e-mail me back with my e-mail address so that i can send you my photos and tell you more about myself. tessy_daniel2@yahoo.com is my email i am waiting to get a reply from you,
Yours New Friend
Miss tessy
Thanks

(I do believe this is a scam)
2008-08-26, 09:25:04
anonymous from United States  
Ayone seen this girl that goes by the name elena zvervschikova from russia.Says she's a school teacher and works part time at a resturant.Hasn't asked for money yet but think it's coming.


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2008-08-26, 14:52:47
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Rick,

Elgera 16A in Cheboksary: http://www.alacrast..354866842

2008-08-27, 14:39:42
OJAS from United States  
2008-08-28, 19:23:56
[hidden] from United States  
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I started getting emails out of the blue with a wonderful story from what appears to be a beautiful little gal (could be a guy of course). I figured from the beginning it was a scam, at least I think it is, but have had fun playing it out. I have received great photos and finally even a nude one which I never ask for but enjoyed!!!!! Ha Ha! No money has been ask for as of yet but I am kind of riding it out to see what else transpires.
I learned from the starting days of the internet that you never give out personal info UNLESS you know without a doubt who you are dealing with.
2008-08-28, 20:33:26
anonymous from Canada  
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2008-09-01, 08:31:36
anonymous  
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this one thout see was good but she got slopey im going to up load all her pic,s to bad she not at all for real


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2008-09-01, 08:33:00
anonymous  
same one


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