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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-10-24, 15:06:33
anonymous from Netherlands  
Elvira - kazan & yoshkar ola - russia
from (van)bytigirl231@ymail.com
asking money - marry - money for passport
money for visa - health certificate etc



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2008-10-24, 15:07:06
anonymous from Netherlands  
Elvira - kazan & yoshkar ola - russia
from (van)bytigirl231@ymail.com
asking money - marry - money for passport
money for visa - health certificate etc



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2008-10-24, 15:07:36
anonymous from Netherlands  
Elvira - kazan & yoshkar ola - russia
from (van)bytigirl231@ymail.com
asking money - marry - money for passport
money for visa - health certificate etc



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2008-10-24, 15:08:05
anonymous from Netherlands  
Elvira - kazan & yoshkar ola - russia
from (van)bytigirl231@ymail.com
asking money - marry - money for passport
money for visa - health certificate etc



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2008-10-24, 15:08:35
anonymous from Netherlands  
Elvira - kazan & yoshkar ola - russia
from (van)bytigirl231@ymail.com
asking money - marry - money for passport
money for visa - health certificate etc



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2008-10-24, 23:53:15
anonymous  
This scammers have three names, Vivian, Conni, Natalya.
One day I received email from Vivian.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'vivian' <vphdomll@hvi.every1.net>
>To: myemailaddress
>Subject: hi from vivian
>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:26:06 -0800

>Hi
>My name is vivian. I found your email on that dating site.
>I also love sex on the side. I have a loving partner but he is working
>16 hours a day and we have sex only once a week :(
>If you are interested and wanna see my pictures just email me at vivian4@allvre.info
>Don`t reply, use the email above (my boyfriend doesn`t know about that email!)

I replied her.
Next week I received another email from Conni.

>----- Original Message -----
>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:34:20 -0800 (PDT)
>From: 'connie' <qluigrsmyutcj@go2net.ro>
>To: myemailaddress
>Subject: hi from connie

>Hi
>It`s connie again. Will you ever contact me?
>I made those nude pictures especially for you and I wont write to you again!
>If you wanna see them just drop me a line at: connie1@onlineldp.info

I replied her.

After few weeks.
I have two emails from them.
At same time, I received one from Vivian and the other from Conni.
The emails were same one attached same pics. They are called Natalya by themselves in their email
and told me to use same email address, natapusi@clicmail.info.

>----- Original Message -----
>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:46:18 +0600
>From: Natalya <natapusi@clicmail.info>
>To: myemailaddress
>Subject: Re: Hi! vivian!

>----- Original Message -----
>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:47:09 +0600
>From: Natalya <natapusi@clicmail.info>
>To: myemailaddress
>Subject: Re: hi from connie

>Hi my new friend
>Im glad to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very short letter.
>It is all right because you are astonished to get my letter.
>I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.
>The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and
>I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
>I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,
>it is hardly possible to explain from first time but I want you to know my plans.
>I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through
>will suggest me some locations.
>It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
>So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any
>town of your area,agency will only help me to get a visa and all travel
>documents + some suggested placed to work in.
>My best friend last year met the man from the USA when she worked there for
>three months, too.
>She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and after
>it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight.
>She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
>It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think
>it is the right way for me ,
>I am lost here,and I think that I look pretty enough to find a better place.
>I want to repeat the same way,it is only my chance to meet a nice man.
>I want to work in USA or in Europe or any nice country.
>I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my life with
> good man because I'm also full of love and tenderness,I know that
>I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince
>and I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life!
>This is why I am going to go through the same way.
>Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
>I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly
>right now) and I would like tobe sure that I have the man who waits for me there.
> I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time
>together to get to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me
>I will be more than happy to meet you too.
>I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and
>want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
>I write to you with my new mailbox natapusi@clicmail.info, please write
>letters now only on this mailbox.
>I will wait your next letter.
>Kiss you , Natalya (this is my name)!


This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Kristina Klenova from Kirov, Russia



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2008-10-25, 12:22:15
anonymous from Belgium  
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I was being scammed by a girl named Svetlana Svetachka. She also wants to come to Belgium but I have to buy for her Visa and planetickets. I had some doubts and now I'm sure of it that she isn't real!! I will put a photo of the girl.


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2008-10-25, 17:17:19
anonymous from Norway  



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2008-10-26, 02:41:34
anonymous  
take care from this scammer using this photo.

Hello.
It is a nice surprise for me to see your answer. Right
now we know practically nothing about each other, we are like open
books for each other. And i‘m glad that I have possibility to know a
person from another country and to get to know how your life is.
I think it is extremely interesting getting to know new people.
As I’m sociable and communicative , I hope we’ll get along and we’ll find some common
points and a lot of topics to talk about.
So... I’m 29 years old and I’m single and I have no kids.
I live in a very small city it is called Yoshkar-Ola. It’s more
like a village I can say. A lot of young people do not want to live in
villages like min and they move to big cities like Moscow, St.
Petersburg, Sochi, Ekaterinburg and others. I have not been to
all of these cities but I’ve been to Moscow and St Petersburg and I
cannot say that I want to live there. These cities are beautiful and
have a lot of interesting historical places but at the same time they
are huge… and people live there not noticing each other. And for myself
I want to have dear people and my friends around and I do not want to
live with people that do not notice me at all. That’s why I can say that
I like Yoshkar-Ola for its itimate atmosphere of a small town. And what is the
city you live in like? How big is it? And do you want to stay there for
the rest of your life or you wouldn’t mind to move to another place? As
for me I wouldn’t mind to move somewhere but I need at least one true
friend around and I think I can be happy in any place in the world. As
my city is not big ,it is not easy to find a decent job. I think that
I am lucky as I found one. I’m a shop-assistant in the furniture store.
I have a normal 8 hours working day for a Russian man. I work from 8
o’clock in the morning till 5 o’clock in the evening and I have 1 hour
of a lunch break usually from 12 to 1 o’clock in the afternoon. I like
my job in general but I’m not sure that I want to do that all my life
and I night to try myself in other fields some time later.
As any person in the world I have my family. Right now it consists only
from my mom and me. we are happy family because we love each other and
we always support each other. My mom’s name is Aleftina, she is 59 years
old and she doesn’t work right now as she is too old for that. she is on
the government pension. My dady left my mom when I was about 2 years old
and I haven’t seen him from that time. So actually I don’t remember him
at all. My mom told me about how he was when they were young but she
herself hasn’t seen him since the time of a break-up. He seems to
disappear somehow… I don’t really want to talk much about that as I do
not understand why my father did that way and why I am turned out to be
to blame in their break-up. I worried a lo about that a lot when I was
teenager but now I seem to get over that. What is your family story? Is
your family big or small? How do you get along? Do you have a lot of
relatives in you city or live somewhere all by yourself? And do you
visit your relatives that are live far away from you? I’m asking so many
questions about your family because I think that this information might
give me the basic knowledge about you as all of us are children of our
parents and we are the “product” of our own family traditions. For
example I do not drink or smoke and I can say that I have no bad habits
and it is all due to my mom. She was always an example to follow. I’
have never seen her smoking or drinking alcohol. She could drink only a
glass of Champaign or wine while celebrating big holidays or when
inviting a lot of friends over. Also when I was small my mom always
explained to me how harmful for our health smoking cigarettes, drinking
alcohol and drugs are. So in my example the influence of my mom in my
life is huge and what is in your case? How your parents influenced your
life?
Oh, it is 9 o’clock in the evening already and the internet cafe; is
about to close. By the way computer with the internet is still a
luxurious thing in our small town (it is different with big citites), so
majority of population who need internet go to inernet cafe;. We
have several of them. Can you imagine that took me an hour to
write this letter?I came to the internet cafe; when it was 8 ‘clock
in the evening and it is 9 already. Time flies. It took me much longer
than I thought it would , it is probably because ihave to translate
everything I want to say in Russian into English and I want to say it
right in English:) I don’t want us to have any misunderstandings because
of he language barrier. So please if you don’t understand anything that
I wrote feel free to ask me, I won’t be offended and I’m open to answer
any questions:)
One more in conclusion I want to say that I’m glad that to see a letter
from you in my mailbox and I hope you would like to continue writing
letters.
It would be very nice to get the answer from you soon and to start
getting to know you:)

Anna

Hello, Morice !
I wanted to say good evening but then I thought that I
don’t know in what part of the day you will read my letter. and if you
read it in the morning and I will great you with “good evening” it
will sound strange , won’t it?:)
Well, that is not something that I’m supposed to start the letter I guess… anyways…
I was glad to see a letter from you again and I’m glad that you decided to continue our
writing letters.
I would like that you knew me more and I also wish to know you better.
My family is on the first place for me and it plays an very important role in my life.
Second place takes up my job. My job is something that give me a chance to express myself
and of course to earn money for living and it helps me to be independent.

I’m a shop-assistant in the furniture store.

My job is not artistic, I’m not a designer of furniture i’m not
making it. I just sell the items that other people created. But
anyways I don’t think that my job is no important. My job is to help
people to create the comfort in their homes and to give them advices
if they ask for that. The store is not very big, but a lot of people
in the city know it as we sell good and not expensive furniture.
And not high price give us a lot of customers. They are all different and
my job is to find a key to each customer that step in our store. This
is some kind of psychological work I think. And I like it all. It is
very easy for me to work with people. I enjoy the process of choosing
furniture and just talking to people. And what is your job related to?
Do you work with people or somewhere in the office with the computer?
Could you describe your duties for example or your every day work? I
had a funny customer a few days ago. He wanted to buy bookshelves. He
didn’t want to get the ordinary ones, they got to be special in some
way. At the same time he didn’t know exactly what he wanted and he
didn’t have enough money to get the help of professional designer. So
he was running arounf the sore explaining the size of the room and the
places where the bed, the table and the sofa were, describing the
color of the room and other details. And he needed my help, other
shop-assistants came to look at that show:) and they were laughing at
that man’s manner explaining everything ! that was very funny!:) after
about half an hour of the show he stopped and asked if I can advise
anything? I sowed him the shelves that were oval and he liked them.
Yesterday he came with a box of sweets and told me that the shelves
that I picked suited perfectly well in his room. I was very glad with
him and with the job done too:) I told you that my job takes the
second place in my life and right now it is so. But to tell the truth
I want it not to be more important than love. At this very moment I
don’t have man that I can fall in love with. And I was looking for
that kind of man very hard in Russia but unfortunately I haven’t met
any. Don’t think that I’m very independent woman who doesn’t need a
man. It’s not so. I need someone who will protect and support me and
who I can take care about. One of my friends had the same problems and
a few years ago she met a nice man in the internet and after some time
of writing letters to each other she visited him and didn’t come back.
They ended up marrying and she seems to be very happy. I’m emailing
her form time to time and I see the joy that is in all of her letters.
Till the latest time I thought that I was to find my love in Russia
but now I came to conclusion that it doesn’t matter which country
people are from if they understand each other and if they have common
topics to talk about. I have no experience talking to foreigner but I
like it so far with you:) and let me know what do you think of it?
Have you talked to a lot of different women from other countries? If
yes, how was it? Was it difficult because of the different
mentalities? Or may be this just added peculiarity to the
communication?:) For me personally it is very exciting talking to you,
to a person that have totally different life and another way of
thinking though at the same time all the people no matter where they
live in Africa, Indonesia, India, Japan or Brasilia have a lot in
common: everybody dreams about true love, everybody needs to have a
true friend, everybody wants to be successful in something and so on…
I can name a lot of things that are common for all people in the
world. So tell me if you are interested to know more about me after
reading this letter and I will be happy to do that. I like telling
about my life if one wants to know about it, I’m not shy or not
talkative(I hope you have already noticed that:)) I can answer your
questions if you have any and I still waiting the answers to mine:)
Thanks for giving your time for reading my letters and writing the
answers. I appreciate it.
Anna

Hello Morice !
Good time of the day!:)
It is very pleasant to know that someone who live so far away wants to
know about me and about my life. I mean internet does incredible things
like we would never get a chance even to start talking if there were no
internet. It seem s that due to internet the whole world unites and
gradually becomes one huge country. I don’t know if it is good or bad
for us people who live in this world but what I know for sure it is good
for me personally because you and me began to write to each other:)
I have now that many friends in other cities of Russia or abroad. I have
one friend who married foreign man and went to live to another country ,
then I have a few friends who right now live in Moscow and St.
Petersburg but most of my friends live here. And what about
your friends? Do all of them live next to you or do you have to go some
distance to see them and to spend some time together? I love spending
time with my friends, they make my life brighter and easier and more
fun. I wish I could spend more time with my friends but it is not
possible because fo the work and other responsibilities that I have.
When I have free time (it is usually in the evenings) my friends and go
to different entertainment places like movie theatre, theatre,
cafe. I just love to watch movies in the movie theatre. I like
different movies starting from romantic comedies, dramas to adventure
movies and action ones. Watching movie in the movie theatre can’t be
compared with watching it at home: the screen, the sound, the
atmosphere- everything is so different! Most of my friends have the same
opinion so we usually got to movie theatre with a big company. Less of
my friends like an understand classical theatre. To be more precise only
2 of them really enjoy it. As for me I like to go to drama performances
better than to opera and ballet. I do not understand opera because
singers sing in Italian and I do not know Italian at all and I can guess
what is going on on the stage only by the actors’ movements.. and I
believe that is not enough to understand performance. Ballet dancing is
easy to feel as dancers express their feelings by movements but not by
words so their movements is more emotional and expressive then those of
opera singers. Anyways I prefer drama but I don’t go to the theatre
that often. Another alternative to go out with friends are different
cafes and bars. We prefer karaoke bars as there are more opportunities
to entertain ourselves. And where do you usually go out? What are the
most popular places in your city to spend some free time?
My free time consists not only of going out with friends. I have some
hobbies. For example I like to do jogging in the mornings. I try to jog
every day. I think it is on of the best ways to keep fit and I don’t
have to spend any money for going to gym. Jogging in the summer is very
pleasant if it is not raining. It’s getting harder in the winter when
it is cold, snowy and the wind is blowing. But even in winter I do
jogging not when it is freezing but when the weather is not that cold:)
I don’t really like any other sports… well, aerobics is kind of o’k. I
can watch only one type of sport games. That’s football. But I have
never played it:) that how I am with sports:) do you go to gym or play
any sport? Maybe you did that when you were in school or college. When
I was in school I did a lot of skiing during my PT class. I hated it but
our PT teacher made us do skiing otherwise he wouldn’t give us good
grades. I’ve never touched skies since the very time I graduated fro
high school. But I like skating. I can’t say that I do that excellent
but I enjoy skating on the ice-skating rink while good music is being
played.
By the way about music! I can’t live without music at all:) I turn it on
when I wake up. I go jogging with a player. There is always some kind of
radio station playing at work. And then I enjoy music going to concerts
or to the bars in the evenings:) When I get ready to go to bed I listen
to some calm music. I can’t say that I like particular musical style. I
like something form pop, rock, hip-hope and techno. It just depends on
what I do. Tell me what are your musical preferences:)
I think I asked you quite a lot of questions already:) that’s probably
enough for one letter:)))))) I hope you’ll answer them all:)))) and may
be tell something more about yourself! I would be glad to know more of
you.
I have to say good bye because the internet cafe that I’m writing
form is closing again. And people who work here don not want to wait
till I finish the letter and they give me signs that I got to leave…
that kind of impolite of them..
Next time I’ll try to come to the internet cafe earlier so I would
have a little more time to write to you:)
Anna.

Good time of the day to you Morice !
How was your day? Mine was good. It was rather active. I should confess
that I skipped jogging today mornings as I wasn’t in the mood to work
out. My morning started very calmly. I had a glass of juice and a
wonderful omelet with tomatoes, ham and cheese . I enjoyed not only
eating it but cooking it as well:) by the way do you cook your breakfast
yourself from time to time? Or do you prefer to have just a cup of
coffee or a glass of juice and then you eat at lunch only? As for me it
sometimes so happens that I drink only a glass of juice but then I feel
starving at far before lunch and I have some snacks before lunch and
then during the lunch I do not really eat anything… I know that it is
not good at all, so more often I try to cook good breakfast at home and
eat it all only that way I feel like I have enough energy to work till
the lunch and then at lunch eat a salad and a piece of chicken or beef
with rice or potatoes.. it’s interesting what do you usually have for
you lunch and then dinner? Do you have some kind of favorite food that
you eat very often?:) as for me I do! I just love chicken with rice
and boiled vegetables for lunch. Of course I don’t eat that every single
day but it happens often:)
Well, I better stop talking about food as I came to the internet
cafe; just after work and I haven’t had dinner yet. And I realized
right now that it is difficult to talk about food when you are
starving…:)
Anyways today morning I felt ready to do a lot of work… and you know my
feeling that I would have lot to do didn’t deceive me. Today was very
busy day for me. there were so many customers today ! it’s just
unbelievable, it seems that the half of the town decided to buy
something new in their house at one and the same time:) Thanks God I’m
not the only shop-assistant in the store other way I wouldn’t believe do
all the work by myself… Actually I like when I’m busy at work and I
can’t stand sit doing nothing. It’s boring for me. From time to time it
happens that we practically have no customers then I try to do
something useful fro myself. For example I read. Now at work I have a
book in English. It is called “Pride and prejudice” by Jane Austen.
I’ve started reading not that time ago but I like it so far. Reading in
English is not easy for me I often have to consult the dictionary but I
believe that this way I can make my English much better. Anyways today
wasn’t eh kind of day that I would have time to read… do thing like that
happen to you? I mean does it happens that you have nothing to do at
work? If it does what do you usually do to spend that time? Going back
to reading I like to read historical books too. The history of Russia is
extremely interesting especially I like the period of tsars and
tsarinas, the period of developing arts and sciences… I would like to
visit some historical places that are as well known as Hermitage in
St.Petersburg. May be it would sound weird that a modern woman is
interested in history but I think that the history of my country is a
part of my history and it doesn’t matter that right now I live in a
small city where nothing huge ever happened… And do you know the history
of your country? I don’t mean in details… but at least in general? Do
you know how your country was created? And who did that? maybe you would
give a short historical note to me:) as I’m good in the history of
Russia and I’m very bad in history of other countries of the world::(
It’s not possible to know everything.:)
Not that long time ago I found another reason why I should know the
history of Russia. It is connected with my future life. Before I though
that I want to marry only Russian man but now my mind changed and I
accept the thing that sooner or later I might go to live to another
country if I meet that man that I will love. That would mean that my
kids(that I’ll have in future) will grow up in another culture. But I
will ant them to remember about their Russian roots and I will want them
to know the history of their country where their mother was born and
lived a big part of her life. I hope that the way how seriously I’m
thinking about the future do not confuse you. As right now I’m at that
period of my life when I definitely want to have a family with the man
who I will love. I feel like I’m ready for that and I’m ready to give my
all for the family.
Oh by the way here is a funny thing. This letter I talked so much about
I like history, historical books and historical places.. but the place
where I live now is not historical at all… we have only one museum that
tells about the history of Yoshkar-Ola but to tell the truth there is
nothing to tell about:) isn’t it hilarious:) During the period of tsars
Yoshkar-Ola was a territory of one landowner who lived in St/ Ptersburg and
practically never been to that land.. He just was sending people who
took money from poor peasants . Then during the times of Soviet Union
our city was a huge farm but this farm was totally controlled by the
government and all people worked not for themselves but for the
government. The city was not big at all, and after the collapse of
Soviet Union the city started to grow, land became controlled by people
who bought it from the government and since then our city began to
develop. Well, that’s the history of my native city:) and what is the
history of yours?
I would wait the answer in your next letter:) and not I’m going run home
and cook something to eat as I’m starving to death…. And I can think
only about food this very moment:)
I hope you will excuse me:)
Talk to you very soon!:)
Anna.
Hello Morice.
Thanks for answers to all my questions. I hope that some of them for
The example about history things did not seem strange for you, and you have told
Anything only beeing scared to be impolite:)
I thought, that my last letter, could seem, would be strange as when I speak
People something about history and about that, how much is pleasant to me it. They think
That I am too clever and that I have read too many books. I do not know why
But in my city people do not like an ale of the kid which they like to read and
Especially the youth, apparently, is ashamed of it. To speak the truth I do not do
Understand such people. But anyways it - completely a personal thing to
Choose a hobby and things strongly to wish on. Thus I can tell, that I appreciate
That you thought of me being sharp on history of my country completely
The normal:)
With each letter I understand, that I like your individuality more and more.
And I feel, that I wish to tell to you about me directly, and I wish to know more
And it is more about you. By the letter of my first letter I thought only about
The friendship and as remarkable there would be due to be it to have the close friend who
Lives far form you, but the distance would not have value. I think that we
Reached it. Speaking to you a usual thing about me directly I have understood
That I can tell to you all about the life, the feelings and the soul.
And I am ready to speak not about usual things only. Also that it is more
Important I wish to study your soul and your deep feelings. But then I
Caught directly on one question. Unless it would not be more than friendship?
What do you think? As I am afraid not to understand to death
You … when I do not understand something in you of the letter, I consult
The dictionary! In this week end I am going to visit my grandmother. I have not mentioned it
Speaking about my family. It does not mean, that I do not like it or
Something. This situation is only a little difficult with it. Mine
Name of the grandmother - Anna. And to it - 82 years. It - my mum
Mother and it there live in a countryside approximately 100 kilometres from
Sernur. The long period of time my mum and my grandmother did not speak in
All of them were in huge struggle. It was all because of my daddy. Mine
The grandmother did not like it, form very much the beginning, and she has told to my mum
It if she has married it, she never would speak with it. My mum has not made
Listen to my great mother, it was young and it was required to be independent.
So finally she has married my daddy, and my grandmother did not speak with it.
She at all did not visit us when I was born. After my daddy has left us,
My mum had difficulties to earn money to feed me and is direct … that time
My grandmother has rescued us, she has offered us, the help and my mum have accepted it. So
My mum has told, that she regretted, that did not listen to my grandmother and the form
Then and now my grandmother, regret for it, only she knows that is better
For my mum and me also. Also know, that I sometimes feel inconvenient when
I visit her, as my grandmothers continue to say to me what to make in my life
And how to live. She says, that if my mum listened to it, it would not be
Made, that a huge error. But at the same time I say to it, that I would not be
Be born also. Thus I wish to live my life, and I wish to make mine
Errors. Thus I love the grandmother, and she is a good person as she wants
I to be happy. But I become frequent tired from hearing of its conversation about
That I should make. She thinks, and she will always think, that I - it
The small grand daughter who requires its help. I think, that I should tell it when
I was the child whom I only liked to come to my house of the grandmother and to spend
The whole summer on there.it was the happiest period of academic year. I
Had a vacation of 3 months in the summer. I spend the whole summer with mine
The friends floating in the river, going to the wood collecting mushrooms
And berries, building our own house from branches and certainly game
The various games beginning with, disappear, and searches and much many other things. I can
Tell, that I had a happy childhood. How was yous? Tell to me the brightest
The moments and memoirs which you had. All mine are connected with school
Summer vacations which I have spent in the house of the grandmother.
And even now I try to visit my grandmother often. Irrespective of the fact how it reaches
To speak with it. I appreciate everything, that it has made for me when I
It was young, and now I try to make everything, that is possible for it. I
Help it round the house and with its garden, and make much f another
Things. Also I cannot stop to enjoy the nature. A place, where mine
Lives of the grandmother have only a magnificent nature around. I like it in everyone
Season in the winter, spring, summer and in the autumn. I weaken supervision
Beautiful trees and the bushes covered with snow in the winter, or colours
And the leaves, growing in the spring and in the summer, and leaves yellow, red and
The orange colours falling from trees in territory of autumn. If I begin
Describing all beauty of that nature of a place it would take me a little
We … does not want, that you were bothered according to my letter.
While I am closed. And as usual hope the letter from you to see fast :)!








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dateSun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:12 PM
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Hello my dear xxxxx
I am happy to receive your letter my lovely. As you know today I went to travel agency. Know I has lead there about 3 hours. There there were many people and basically of the girl. When I waited for the turn I have got acquainted with the girl which too goes to the favourite person, as well as I. She has told to me that its man lives in Canada and what they as have got acquainted as well as we with you my lovely man wind.
Now I want to tell what news I have learned from the tourist agent. It has told to me that that I could arrive in united kingdom. To you it will be necessary for me the tourist visa which refers to B2. It is the visa for 3 months. That is the maximal term of stay in your country for 90 days. As it has told to me that the visa will be done 7 working days. The tourist agent has told to me that I will need to do medical documents, the passport for travel abroad and insurance.
As it informed me cost of all documents and visas. The price of the visa 175 euros, the price of the passport for travel abroad 125 euros, the price of medical documents 225 euros, and the price of insurance 320 euros.
That is to arrive to you to me it is necessary only 845 euros. My love I can find 200 euros, and it is necessary for me that you have sent me 645 euros. My love if at you is any questions to the tourist agent that can write to it, e-mail the tourist agent: 'round_the_world@inbox.ru' Also it has told, that some your data will be necessary for him. It has told that they will fix all this that I shall know to whom to arrive and for what time. Dear it has told, that it needs your full name, a surname, your country, city, your province, and contact phone.
I kiss you yours Kristina.
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