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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-09-13, 20:17:54
anonymous from United States  



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2006-09-15, 16:54:03
anonymous from Canada  



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2006-09-15, 17:01:02
anonymous from Canada  
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If anyone heres from this person be careful. She is very clever.
2 Names she uses Alina Tumanova & Tatyana Novikova


These are here letters !


Hello my sweetheart Brad!
I am sorry that I didn't write you faster. I haven't a free time my darling, I must to work very much. How are you doing there my love Brad?
I received your answer on my last e-mail, more as usual, it was so happy for me to receive your necessary love for me! My dear Brad, I love you, you and your letters are so necessary for me, you are inseparable part of my life.
I want very much to arrive to you. I want to be with you, I want to kiss you to hugs you and I want to feel your hugs and kisses.
You are ready to meet me? I think that today or tomorrow in morning I shall go in travel agency of visa service and I shall find out all that will be necessary for me for travel to you. I say about it very serious, because you know how much I love you my darling Brad, I can't without you, all days I dream about our meeting. I want to say to you my dear, that all people, who want to find a love, will find the love necessarily! I am sure in this, because I found YOU, and we love each other so much, and I know that OUR LOVE is most dear feeling from other feelings that exists on this small light-blue planet.
My dear Brad, I love you very much, I so miss you, I want to be with you. I can't wait, when we will together. My love Brad I am dreaming about you as much as you are dreaming of me. I can not wait to hold you and share our happiness together for the rest of our lives.
I must end this letter now even though I do not want, but I must because I should go for work.
I LOVE YOU MY DARLING BRAD!!! MANY MANY KISSES FOR YOU!!! With all my love and affection forever and always yours Alina XOXOXOX



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2006-09-16, 07:41:40
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Hi Irina Kochagina fans,

I too have a collection of letters and photos like Simon’s. He did well to get the one with a sign to him; I tried getting something like that but to no avail.

I traced the email irkalov@rambler.ru to two IPs: 80.81.208.82 (www.rusat.com) and 217.106.137.12. The latter location is telling, it belongs to: Volgatelecom Mari El branch, address: Russia Mari El Republic, e-mail: nnb@relinfo.ru This Mari El is famous for dating scams. The majority came from the first IP, which should if Irina’s story is right about her sending these letters from work, why is the IP not registered to GAZPROM? It is interesting to see she uses another email address: irinaloves@rambler.ru , she got snotty with me initially for using more than one email address – a bit rich, me thinks!

Anyway, she has asked if I could help out with the ticket, I said I would not send money but would reimburse her when she arrived in England. I’ll check IPs of any messages I get and report back.

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2006-09-17, 03:27:41
simon from United Kingdom  
More Irina !!! (they just keep coming!)
Hello 'Anonymous', I have not been sent the yellow bikini photo yet but I suppose I will get that one soon no doubt, hahhahahaha. (You gotta laugh, ESPECIALLY WHEN SHE SAYS THAT SHE WRITES TO NOBODY ELSE BUT ME !!! HAHHAHA)

THE 13th MAIL
Hello my loved Simon,
I waited very much your letter. Today we have a lot of sun! I already dress my
solar glasses when a meal on the automobile and in general it is simple when I
go along the street. It will be rather warm and fast even more warmly. How is
the weather at you? How mood? When I shall arrive to you, you will have good
weather?
Today the important day to our meeting. I spoke with mine the boss about a
vacation. I explained our situation. My boss good the man. he closely listened
to me and asked some questions. For example, how for a long time I shall remain?
Also he asked my plans for the future. My boss very much respects me as the
person and as the fellow worker. he knows, that I always can charge with
responsible tasks. he believes, that I the clever woman, and I shall take all
things correctly. The boss agrees with me, that I should build private life. he
will not interfere with this, and he it will be kind to give to me a vacation
for any time. he understands, that if I should come back to Russia, and our
relations will not grow, I shall require work. he will always take for me a
place of work. I was so is glad to this! So, my parents not against our meeting,
my boss also. I now am quiet about it. You also want to meet me, and you wait,
when I shall arrive. It seems, all things go to us towards and it is very
pleasant for me, that all so occurs. I think, that this good beginning to our
serious relations.
Besides I feel, that I do correct things. I have to you many feelings. I want to
love you and I want, that between us feelings of love in due course grew.
I very seriously think of you, I trust you. Also I think, that it is big success
to meet good the man on the Internet. I am confident, that a life you also very
kind, are fair also loyal the man. Besides I believe, that you gentle and
careful the man.
Probably already today along toward evening or tomorrow early in the morning I
shall go in travel agency. I already was there earlier and I know where it is
located. I should move to city centre on my automobile to not lose a lot of
time. I want to find out as soon as possible all necessary information and all
rules for visiting the England. I shall find out also cost of tickets to the
England. Here in our city we have the airport. Tell please, what airport closest
to you? It should be the international airport. I shall check about cost of
tickets. You should meet me on your automobile or I should take a taxi? How it
will be more convenient for you? It will be more convenient for me and it is
pleasant, if you meet me at the airport! You can write my name on a paper and so
I can faster find you though I think, that I learn you and without it! I already
have for you some gift. It is a souvenir. My parents will send also to you some
gift from heart. I am confident, that I shall take with myself many things! I
shall take a dress and to dress every evening! This beautiful dress and I
ordered it under the personal request in studio. This it is very beautiful!
Tomorrow I can inform you more information on our meeting. I even can already
tell more precisely when I can arrive to you! You can be prepared for our
meeting also! You are excited to meet me?
I also want to speak that really now I do not write to anybody except for you. I
already for a long time spoke you that I do not write to anybody.
Well, speak all HELLO from me. I shall write to you tomorrow. I love you! I KISS
YOU!
With hope, Irina.

Tune in next week folks for more scamming e-mails from Irina !!!
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Dating scammer Irina from Yaroslavl, Russia



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2006-09-17, 23:04:05
anonymous from United States  



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2006-09-18, 03:34:30
Mark from United Kingdom  
Hi Irina Kochagina fans,

No new message yet, but a bit more info on our relationship.

Fairly to tell, it is interesting that two of us have had the same letters, with very minor exceptions. I mirror her letters, and send misc photos to her, so have encouraged her quite a bit - you know what? I actually think she is a bit of a babe, I like the quirky fringe! Though Simons' sign photo does look pretty scary - the writing is clearly a product of photoshop. She rarely answers direct questions, however, there is some tailoring of the letters to the odd question - maybe the solar glasses are a little dark!

Another warning sign is the use of 'The Bat!' emailer (view the header). it is used by some legitimate dating agencies, and businesses, but it is extensively used by spammers and scammers for a number of well documented reasons - google it.

Now, Simon has not referred to any telephone contact. Irina did contact me by phone! She phoned my wifes at home, and then me at work - alas, I could not trace the number through our exchange, but I will see if she will do it again perhaps. I did ask, but she was much borrowed by time, aparently.

Any Irina Kochagina fans can Instant messenger me at mgjb@hotmail.co.uk to share updates if you like.

TTFN...

2006-09-18, 12:22:22
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Hello Ive just had a run in with irina,im from lancashire england,her banks address to send her money was still in moscow, so i sure thats where she lives,didnt send anything though!luckly enough.Ive had all those picture except for simons,which i down loaded and sent back!!If you want to get intouch worden21@hotmail.com
2006-09-19, 05:08:58
Simon from United Kingdom  
More Irina;- She has finally sent me the Bikini photo. (I did say it would not be long now,.......)
She has also finnally got around to asking me for money !!! (Oh, what a shame, and I thought it was true love !!,. hahahhaha)

THE 14th E-MAIL

My Simon, I LOVE YOU!
My parents and friends spoke you HELLO! Mum already asked as us with you affairs
with a meeting. I have explained to mum, that everything is all right. On work
of problems with a vacation will not be, and my boss has told, that in any day I
can go on a vacation.
Today I went in agency of travel. It is located in our city and the WORLD refers
to! They render set of services. I have addressed to lady with questions and she
has kindly answered me all my questions. I have explained, that I want to visit
England and the first question which she asked me: you were in England before? I
have told was not present. You have the passport? I have told YES! But my
passport had restriction and now it is necessary for me to prolong the passport.
Also she asked my marital status, my earnings, whether I have children, and set
of other questions. I kindly answered each question. I also have explained, that
before I went to near abroad. After that lady has told to me, that then you will
not have a problem with visiting England. She has explained to me about a policy
of the European countries and also England. Each country to care of people which
arrive.
They choose from candidates on reception of the visa and do not give the visa to
all. Material stability is very important. Also the social status and the
purpose of arrival in England.
Also to me allowed a site of embassy England. I already considered all details.
Here the prices for various visas, terms of registration, the list of necessary
documents are submitted. It is a pity, that in Russian and you cannot understand
it. Lady has explained to me, that I should go to Moscow for reception of the
visa. I never was in England before and consequently my personal presence at
embassy with payment of consular gathering is necessary. I can arrive in England
approximately 3 months or these are 100 days.
Also I should tell, that if I shall send all documents through agency in my city
then I should pay much more money. Besides I should go to Moscow anyhow and
personally be present at embassy. You understand about it? I looked on that site
schedules of work and checked cost of the visa. These are 70 dollars. I should
you tell, that it is rather complex and long process to receive the visa. To me
have told, that I have more opportunities to receive the visa. By the way, I
should receive the visa of the tourist because it is fast enough and is more
cheaper. Besides I believe, that for us now there is no necessity to receive the
visa of the bride because it is our first meeting. You agree with me? So, in
embassy if I shall prove, that I come back back they will allow the visa without
a problem. Here in Russia I have good work, my apartment, the automobile and
proves all this, that I shall come back anyhow. Therefore I can safely go to
Moscow and receive my visa!
I have a lot of information for this purpose, except for that I travelled
earlier. I know also that it will demand from me time, my forces and money. I
have time, I have forces!
I the strong woman and I also have money for this purpose. I should tell also,
that I could save approximately 700 dollars for this purpose. I would have more,
but I have paid taxes and also I helped to pay to parents training of my sister.
I approximately counted my expenses. I should go to Moscow by train. I should
pay also for the visa, for the passport, for many other documents. Also I should
live in Moscow in hotel some time and pay for residing and for transport. I
think, that I 700 dollars will be spent for this purpose only. I read on the
Internet, that it will be necessary for me to show the ticket back to Russia.
Without it to me will not allow the visa.
It has a little afflicted me, because tickets will demand many money. I have
wanted to arrive to you and I do not refuse it. I am ready to spend for this
purpose my working hours, money and my forces. Because I know, that I want to
meet you. I want to be with you. Both of us want it. For this reason I wanted to
speak with you about division with me parts of expenses. I want you to ask, that
you bought for me tickets aboard the plane. It roundtrip ticket. I think, that
it will be fair, because I also to spend many my money and forces and time. You
agree with me? I ask you that you bought for me tickets from Moscow up to your
closest airport. I already accepted all things here. I am ready to go to Moscow
and to start to take all things. Now if you will help me with tickets I can go
tomorrow already to Moscow. By the plane I very quickly reach Moscow. Tell to
me, you will help me with tickets?
You have money for this purpose now? I very much hope, that you will help me.
Between us there is a trust and feelings. Both of us want to meet. Also for me
it will prove gravity of your intentions. Please, you should not me refuse.
We do correct things and I am confident, that we shall be happy together. I wait
tomorrow your answer and if you have money and to me will buy tickets I shall go
to Moscow. Write to me it. Excuse me, that I ask you about the help. I think,
that it is fair. You know my earnings and you should represent, that for me it
is many money. I do not regret money and I shall do all for our meeting. But I
should have your support also. We should be one command and then we shall be
happy.
I wait your letter and with hope, that you help me also I shall go to Moscow
soon.
I love you. I wait our meeting. I want to see you and to kiss. Write soon, yours
forever, Irina.

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2006-09-19, 07:46:40
Mark from United Kingdom  
Hello Irina Kochergina Fans,

I can't stop smiling...this if funny!

I have just recieved this from my beloved Irina in her solar glasses, fairly to tell. Note the name she has signed off with!!!!!!!!

Greetings!!!
I want to inform with bitterness to you that yesterday found out that that my letter box suffered crash and consequently I have lost all our
correspondence.
I lost the information on you which should know. Please excuse me for it!!!
I did not want that so all has turned out. I now do not know that to me to do. What will you advise? I think that I can not restore that any more that. Please have gone to me our correspondence. So I can fill again.
Well that I wrote down the address of your mail. I hope that you soon will write to me. Faniya.

I wrote back:

Hi there!
Sorry to hear about you mail problem, but I have had a similar problem, I had to reload my whole computer up over the weekend, and I had not archived outlook for too long. So I have none of your emails or photos anymore- boohoo.

Please could you send some to me, and i'll tell you if I have had them before - and I'll take better care of them!

I'm sure you have not forgotten our conversations though, afterall, we have been getting on so well, and you have not been talking with anyone else, have you.

Hope to hear from you very soon,
Mark

Now lets see what we get.. Ho Ho Ho , He He He

Email trace = IP 217.107.237.100 [100.237.dialup.mari-el.ru]

TTFN...
2006-09-20, 06:40:22
Mark from United Kingdom  
Hello Irina Kochergina Fans,

I have just recieved a copy of a letter I got ages ago, so Irina seems to have lost the plot a bit, and as I have a real russian lady coming over in October, I thought I'd kick Irina in the Faniya. Faniya? Ha Ha Ha! If she has the gaul to write back, I may see you all again, otherwisw it's goodbye from me.
2006-09-20, 11:24:56
anonymous from Canada  
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Anyone had this one, goes by Antonina...apparently 25, dentist looking for new start and man of her dreams. comes from a small city in Russia Megadan and grew up in an orphanage, mother gave her up at birth. have full info, flight itinerary, scanned copy of passport everything ..travel agent, address in Moscow where she is staying apparently..but...here's the kicker. After 5 lengthy Emails..shes short on money for one of the flights, to the tune of $695 US through Western Union. Can't stand the thought of actually having soemone stranded, allthough havent given any money.


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2006-09-20, 21:13:05
anonymous from United States  



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2006-09-20, 21:13:16
anonymous from United States  
2006-09-21, 01:03:53
snowy from United States  
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hi thot id tell you my byfrd is getting the same letters n picts from this maria sycheva shes still at the same address,,, luckily we heard about the russian marriage scams b4 so no money will be going her/his way,,, but my byfrd is just playing around wi them at mo basically giving them the run around.... hes sending lots of emails asking loads o questions n funnily enough they have been answering the questions!!!!! ha ha itl give them more to write in there standard form letters!! heres a diff pict from ones on site so far of our miss sycheva...... has anybody got pict similar????


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