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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-11-09, 19:07:51
OJAS from United States  
2008-11-10, 10:29:02
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Looking for love or money? AT&T say you make the call!

My dear love,
I am so happy to get your letter and I am so happy that we becoming
closer to each other. All night I thinking about you and about us, I
turned on few times the light to read and reread your letters. Its
very great that people can meet each other throught Internet and write
letters to each other just every day which can let them know more
about each other, to make fellings and empathies. I am so gald to meet
you in my life and I am planning to meet you in person. I am very
serious in my choice. I dont think that longterm correspondence will
help us as much as personal meeting. I dont like to speak about
financial, it does not good here, I dont brought up such, and my
grandmother teach me to consult with it only by myself, and if I ask
someone about something, it mean that I thought a lot about wheather
to do it or not. So I thought a lot about is this good or not to ask
you about help, but I hope for your understanding because I do it only
for both of us and for our happyness. My dear, during the time of our
communicating, I understood that we have feeling to each other that I
can call LOVE. Such feelings between people become not only from
nothing and from lots of thought, analyses of relations, understanding
and mutual help. With every day I am becoming surer in my choise and
in you. And I sure those if I do some mistake you will understand me
and forgive me and I can say it about myself too. Looking for our
relations I understood that only destiny of my heart is to meet you in
person. And I believe in mutual feelings.
I was at cash of airport department today asking about cost of the
tickets. I dont think that tickets can cost so much! I dont sure in
choice of date, but I asked about cheapest tickets that exists. Its
costs about 1290 US dollars. So, here is information about ticket:
Depart Ashkhabad (ASB) 1:35 am
Arrive Moscow (SVO) 5:40 am, 2 December
Duration: Turkish Airlines 1365 / 1415
Connect in Istanbul (Ataturk)
Depart Moscow (SVO) 4:10 pm
Arrive USA 9:00 pm, 2 December
Airlines: Air France 1945 /
Connect in Paris (CDG)

Unfortunately for that moment its really big money for me. As you
know, I saved up some money, its about 100 dollars for the ticket and
all money for the visa. So I need about 1290 dollars more. Its really
hard for me to find now such money by myself, it will take about one
year more.

I dont know now where I can get such money. Will you help me with it?
Its really unpleasant for me to ask you help, but I its seems I have
to do it for both of us. What do you think about a date of our
meeting? Which is the best? The easiest for me is to take vacation at
the next month. Please write me your opinion. I am waiting your
responce with impatience and I hope for soon meeting. I am sure that
meeting in person will be better then thouthands of letters! And I
cant wait to see you in person!
Most sweet kisses, your
Galina

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2008-11-10, 13:21:53
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Pretty sure this girl is a scammer on Myspace - profile: donna_nel01
email: donne_huntsville_al@yahoo.com



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2008-11-10, 15:00:16
anonymous from Saudi Arabia  



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2008-11-10, 17:45:17
anonymous from United States  
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Thanks again, looks like someone has been reading my mail.


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2008-11-12, 19:14:48
[hidden] from United States  
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Tatyana from Russia, and frequents Moscow, at least she says, and is within 45 minutes of Moscow, has written me initially, then every day since. She first wanted to know about me, then wanted me to suddenly pay for her VISA, of which she said she could not write much right now because she was on her way to Moscow to find out about process of getting a VISA. Then she says she was told that a Tourist VISA would be the fastest to get and would take up to 3 months. She keeps insisting that she works and has a degree from university in Economics but does not work in that field because jobs are too hard to find in that area. However, she keeps insisting how she loves me and how much she wants to meet me, what a line of crap. The only thing she cares about is actually gold-digging and getting unsuspecting people that do not know any better to send her money. I am posting all the pics she sent to me, because she matches the exact picture posted in this area above under this dated posting: (2006-09-07, 15:20:25). Now look at these pics and do a comparison. Notice the hairline is exact near her forehead. This is definitely the same woman that wrote me and has named herself Tatyana from Russia. Steer clear of her, she is a fake and a liar, of which I have caught her in several times in her letters to me. I have copies of the letters, as I saved them all, and they match exactly the ones that are form letters from the scam sites that post these scamming women.
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2008-11-12, 19:19:24
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Russian Scammer Tatyana lives near Moscow she says, frequents Moscow, wants me to pay for her VISA, only $500.
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Dating scammer Natalya (natalya@coalro.biz) from Russia



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2008-11-12, 19:22:03
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Tatyana of Russia, says she is in Moscow waiting for me to send her the $500 for VISA and she will come to me. She lies and has been seen on this posting by others. Stay away from her. She appears to be a drug addict in one of the pictures I will eventually post. Contrast the exact hairline in several of the pics with those already posted.


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2008-11-12, 19:23:16
anonymous from United States  
Russian Scammer, gold-digger, VISA only $500, send money and I will come and embrace you.


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2008-11-12, 19:25:51
[hidden] from United States  
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Moscow Scammer of Russia, says her name is Tatyana. Wants $500 for VISA fees.


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2008-11-12, 19:29:50
[hidden] from United States  
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Tatyana of Russia, near Moscow and frequently goes to Moscow, so she says. Wants $500 for VISA fee's and she wants to come see me right away. Waiting in Moscow for the money to come. Ya, right.


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2008-11-12, 19:33:31
[hidden] from United States  
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Tatyana from Russia, near Moscow. Sending requests to unsuspecting people who are innocently enough looking for the someone special on the internet. She says she is from the USA in her information, within 50 miles of Watertown, NY, and not so, she has never been to the USA she says, so what is up with her misrepresenting herself on Yahoo Personals, and why is she contacting people in the USA in the first place?


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2008-11-12, 19:35:59
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She says her name is Tatyana of Russia, near Moscow. Within 45 kilometers of Moscow. Wants $500 for VISA fee to come to the US to meet me.


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2008-11-12, 19:38:06
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Tatyana of Russia, Scammer and imposture, she does not want anything but VISA money.
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Dating scammer Olga Chernova from Kstovo, Russia



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2008-11-12, 19:42:49
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Tatyana of Russia, a real scammer, as will show by numerous pics on this site posted by others being scammed. Sometimes her addiction can not wait for the $500 VISA fee money.


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