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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-11-24, 20:38:31
evanlihot@yahoo.com from United States  
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i am in the process of being intouch with a ruusian girl for the past month named ely,,, claims real name elvira kashapova from serersk ,russia photos are astonishing,, wants to come abroard she claims that she went to moscow the other day,,, she has sent me numerous pictures, even of her mom, sister, sisters baby, and cat???
received email to day not specifing flight though mentions russain travel agency as tour express russia telling me about visa, not enough money, only 450 us dollars asking fo y 1200 dollars alot of love and kises ,i can send you her email if you wish ,,,she wants to arrive soon,, i wrote her back that i would not be sending any money,, she almost had me,, though in the back of my mind ,,i always thought it to be a scam ,,,what if it trully is not??? i still can not afford to send her money...thanx for your info ,,please reply
2008-11-24, 20:41:11
evan from United States  
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it also appears that she claims to have a working visa for six months---her name is ely
2008-11-25, 16:47:57
anonymous from United Kingdom  
These are definately scams - post photos and any correspondence and we can tie them up! Don't send money !
2008-11-27, 17:54:05
anonymous from Middleburg, United States  
Well My girl goes by Juliya Glushkova<glusjuliya08@rambler.ru>
her adress she just gave for money is KOTELNIKOVA, 8
OMSK, RUSSIA 644121

We have been corisponding for 2-3 weeks every day.

She has sent many pictures here is one. Has anyone seen her before.

Drew


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2008-11-27, 19:52:12
anonymous from Australia  
I only just relized I was being scamed. So I e-mail her and said I just sold a property and have some spare cash. That now would be a good time for her to vist. I asked her to phone me and gave her my number. If she rings I will scam her into a big phone bill.
2008-11-28, 10:49:35
anonymous from Brazil  
Nadysca tentou me enganar, mas desde o principio percebi o golpe, mas deixei agir até o último momento. Quando me pediu para enviar-lhe dinheiro. através do westerunion. CUIDADO


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2008-11-28, 21:26:58
anonymous from United States  
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Another Russian scammer to watch out for...love this letter I just got -- these same sentences can be googled back to at least January 2007...must have reeled in quite a few with it:

Hello my friend
I am so happy to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very
short letter.It is all right because you are astonished to get my
letter. I know that you're probably surprised to get my message. I got your email somewhere on the website. I don't remember which one it was.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,it is hardly possible to explain from first time but
I want you to know my plans.I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through will suggest
me some locations. It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any town of your area,agency will only help me
to get a visa and all travel documents + some suggested placed to work in. My best friend last year met the man from
the USA when she worked
there for three months, too. She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and after
it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight. She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think it is the right way for me ,I am lost here,and I think that I
look pretty enough to find a better place .I want to repeat the same way,it is only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my life with good man because I'm also full of love
and tenderness,I know that I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life! This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly right now) and I would like to be sure that I
have the man who waits for me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time together to get
to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
Now I write you from my personal mailbox, please write me back here and here only. I will be checking it often.

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2008-11-29, 00:01:16
embulance@gmail.com  
here is it the same letter sent it to me .

fromDariya <sladka@myup2you.com>
reply-toDariya <sladka@myup2you.com>

toembulance for all <embulance@gmail.com>

dateMon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:18 PM
subjectHello

hide details Nov 24 (5 days ago) Reply


Hello my friend
I am so happy to see that you have decided to reply,I see it is very
short letter.It is all right because you are astonished to get my
letter. I know that you're probably surprised to get my message. I got your email somewhere on the website. I don't remember which one it was.
I want you to know that I have only good intentions and I have not any secrets.
The thing is that I will work in your country for three months or so and I would like to meet a nice man to fall in love or just be closest friends.
I don't want to live in Russia because I have not any chances here,it is hardly possible to explain from first time but
I want you to know my plans.I will work in any shop, bar or restaurant the agency that i am going through will suggest
me some locations. It will be my choice in the end as to what option to go for.
So I will have a simple work till I improve my English. And I can choose any town of your area,agency will only help me
to get a visa and all travel documents + some suggested placed to work in. My best friend last year met the man from
the USA when she worked
there for three months, too. She had two jobs. From morning till 4 pm she worked in amusement park and after
it she worked as a waitress in some bar till midnight. She was very tired of course but made very good money there.
It is special programm for young people who wants to work abroad and I think it is the right way for me ,I am lost here,and I think that I
look pretty enough to find a better place .I want to repeat the same way,it is only my chance to meet a nice man.I want to work in USA or in Europe or any
nice country. I am full of plans and different dreams and I want to share my life with good man because I'm also full of love
and tenderness,I know that I am not so beautiful like Hollywood Princess but I do hope to meet my Prince and
I am sure he will be not be disappoined to meet me in the real life! This is why I am going to go through the same way.
Well,I will close this letter and I do hope to get your reply.
I will leave russia in two weeks or so (I can't tell you everything exactly right now) and I would like to be sure that I
have the man who waits for me there. I will work all day and I want to find a man to spend all free time together to get
to know each other better.if you have any interest to meet me I will be more than happy to meet you too.
I will tell you all details about me and my life if you like my pictures and want to meet me! please send picture of you too!!!
Now I write you from my personal mailbox, please write me back here and here only. I will be checking it often.
Kiss you ,Dariya (this is my name)!
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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer Lyudmila from Irkutsk, Russia
Dating scammer Dariya
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
Dating scammer Dariya



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2008-11-29, 00:03:09
embulance@gmail.com  
2008-11-29, 00:06:17
embulance@gmail.com  
2008-11-29, 00:08:02
embulance@gmail.com  
devochka_dariya@mtsglobe.com
fromDariya <devochka_dariya@mtsglobe.com>
reply-toDariya <devochka_dariya@mtsglobe.com>

toembulance for all <embulance@gmail.com>

dateFri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:35 PM
subjectThis is my new email. did you get my yesterday's email?

hide details 7:35 PM (13 hours ago) Reply


I sent an email yesterday from an email which i don't frequently use, so you'd better reply to me here. sorry for the confusion.
Dariya
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Dating scammer Dariya
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2008-11-29, 11:02:48
anonymous from Tultepec, Mexico  
HOLA DESDE MEXICO:

Them shipment these photo is mede call Darya Lesnikova or Evgenia of the Penza Rusia. Taken care of and luck


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2008-11-29, 11:04:51
anonymous from Mexico  
more photos


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2008-11-29, 12:39:50
aniaries@yahoo.co.mx from Mexico  
no se crean todo lo que ven


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2008-11-29, 12:40:45
anonymous from Mexico  



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