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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2008-12-20, 03:45:26   (updated: 2008-12-20, 03:45:50)
BAT  
THANKS STEVE, BUT THIS GUY WILL NEVER LEARN.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF HE AT LEAST COULD HAVE A GOOD LOOK AT:
http://www.delphifa..001.shtml
JUST AN ONE PAGE THREAD.
SEE YOU.
2008-12-21, 05:10:40
anonymous  
I see quite a bit of russian girls using web sites such as Lavalife to send out their 'profile.' You are exactly right, they all first send a few beautiful pics and then ask you for money to travel. So much for true love!
2008-12-21, 08:21:11
anonymous from United States  
I have been told that Russian women suffer abuse from the Russian men because they drink all that Vodka all the time, and treat their women like trash, inflicting beatings, verbal and emotional pain, so why would you want an abused woman in the first place, thus inheriting all their psychological issues onto your shoulders, as if you don't have enough problems to deal with without acquiring their excess baggage. Russia is not noted for producing quality women, because of all these years of abuse. So, putting aside the scamming that is taking place, and thinking about the facts above, I believe one can find a better place to look for a rewarding relationship. Abused women are permanently scared for life. They are out to inflict pain back on any man they can in retaliation of their years of abuse. To me, this is a logical process and is what is really happening. Hey, look at the other side of it, Russia has also threatened the US and a show of their military strength has emerged over the past few months, specifically targeting the US with their threats. Even the testing of Obama in Arms was mentioned. Why would anyone want anyone from Russia with that being considered, your just asking for a mountain of pain and agony inflicted upon yourself. Stop the scammers by stopping any communications from them is paramount for our security as well as our safety. The choice is yours.
2008-12-22, 12:28:11
[hidden] from Islamabad, Pakistan  
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My name is Umar Saeed Shah I am a beautifil Male of 20 year old from Pakistan. I
am looking to meet the right match for me,some one who is very similar to
me,some one who understand me and love me.I don,t need time waster. I would like a Girl who is Trustworthy,Caring,Loving,Hardworking, Responsible and Faithful.
i im a very down to earth guy, generally like to go out and experience new things. But having a good chat with close friends can be just as satisfying, it usually ends up in laughter anyway. keeping my mind and body in good shape is essential and generally making the most out of opportunities in
life and very sporty when im not injured.

im just at university right now,i love to have a good laugh now and then, you definetly need to enjoy life. However i feel the need to work hard to become successfull in my chosen field.

i see myself as someone people can easily get on with. but i do suck when in comes to filling out these sections about myself. i feel i can convey more of who i am by talking to some one rather than just posting it ...

Ofcourse islam is a very big part of my life. Its helped me become a man of morals, if i were to put myself in black and white: i'd say im honest, very competitive, humble, humurous and very hard working when the time arises.

What am I looking for????????????????????????

someone who is essentially a good person.
she has got to have a knowledge of her religion and the real world. we need a balance to survive in this world...

has a real fire inside her to become a successfull person and she needs to be strong minded.

you've got to know where you want to go in life. you need to be able to relax aswell, having a good time and can go out and have new experiences.

I would like a Girl who is Trustworthy,Caring,Loving,Hardworking, Responsible and Faithful.
I would like some one who is between the Age of 17 To 22 Email me with Pictures
My Emai adress available on first page of
www.opdeshak.com
with Name: Umar Saeed Shah


My Cell Number:+923086981690
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2008-12-25, 15:53:38
glenncashman@hotmail.com from United States  
Her name is Kipot Ekaterina. She calls herself Katya for Short


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2008-12-25, 19:15:27
anonymous from Netherlands  



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2008-12-26, 08:34:29
anonymous from Bosnia and Herzegovina  



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2008-12-29, 00:02:42
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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Does this email address belong to a scammer ? modegirl11@yahoo.com

Cheers.
2008-12-29, 00:42:17
colin.edens@ntlworld.com from United Kingdom  
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I'm currently writing to this woman, we have spoken on the phone once (she called my mobile) her email is as above and I have found this link for it but click on it and page is not found? She has not asked for money yet but cannot afford to buy airline ticket.

http://www.google.c..rch&meta=

Anyone else getting emails from her or requests for money?
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2008-12-29, 18:19:07
[hidden] from Portugal  
I like to communicate with my friends and I like to go outside and to enjoy dancing. I adore literature and especially poetry. I take care about my appearance and my health.About me:I am a nice intelligent man.. calm, reliable, serious.. I am very optimistic and family oriented.I don't like monothony and promise to make our life happy. I do like fun and I do like to laugh at a good joke! I like to communicate with my friends and I like to go outside and to enjoy dancing. I adore literature and especially poetry. I take care about my appearance


am looking for a serious woman, without games..i hope he will be optimist, reliable, serious, ready for normal, partner relationships, with respect towards a lady..



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2008-12-31, 10:24:33
anonymous from United States  
All scammers...


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2008-12-31, 10:25:04
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2008-12-31, 13:04:15
anonymous from United States  
Another scammer who thinks Delphifaq us a dating site:

jjenniferdoe1 <jjenniferdoe1@gmail.com>

My name is jennifer, i am a beautiful and young girl , i saw
your profile today at(www.delphifaq.com) and loved it, i believe we can click together and
make something good out of it, you can contact me directly through my
private email adress
this will enable me to send you my pictures and tell you more about me.
i will be waiting to hear from you soonest.
jennifer.PLEASE REPLY DIRECT MY EMAIL BOX
2009-01-03, 03:58:50
anonymous from Finland  
Page 241, post 2008-12-07, 15:14:58
The man on the foto is russian famous film producer Stanislav Govoruhin, see
http://upload.wikim..ruhin.jpg

This girl is scammer!


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2009-01-05, 20:23:10
anonymous from United States  
thought things were a bit off when she didn't really answer my questions like family etc. then i get this today. yahoo searched the flight and came here as top pick. She showed up on TRUE.com Here are pics she may use different name for you. She was brunette and a bit longer hair too


My dear love,
I am so happy to get your letter and I am so happy that we becoming
closer to each other. All night I thinking about you and about us, I
turned on few times the light to read and reread your letters. Its
very great that people can meet each other throught Internet and write
letters to each other just every day which can let them know more
about each other, to make fellings and empathies. I am so gald to meet
you in my life and I am planning to meet you in person. I am very
serious in my choice. I dont think that longterm correspondence will
help us as much as personal meeting. I dont like to speak about
financial, it does not good here, I dont brought up such, and my
grandmother teach me to consult with it only by myself, and if I ask
someone about something, it mean that I thought a lot about wheather
to do it or not. So I thought a lot about is this good or not to ask
you about help, but I hope for your understanding because I do it only
for both of us and for our happyness. My dear, during the time of our
communicating, I understood that we have feeling to each other that I
can call LOVE. Such feelings between people become not only from
nothing and from lots of thought, analyses of relations, understanding
and mutual help. With every day I am becoming surer in my choise and
in you. And I sure those if I do some mistake you will understand me
and forgive me and I can say it about myself too. Looking for our
relations I understood that only destiny of my heart is to meet you in
person. And I believe in mutual feelings.
I was at cash of airport department today asking about cost of the
tickets. I dont think that tickets can cost so much! I dont sure in
choice of date, but I asked about cheapest tickets that exists. Its
costs about 1290 US dollars. So, here is information about ticket:
Depart Ashkhabad (ASB) 1:35 am
Arrive Moscow (SVO) 5:40 am, 31 January
Duration: Turkish Airlines 1365 / 1415
Connect in Istanbul (Ataturk)

Depart Moscow (SVO) 10:20 am
Arrive Chicago (ORD) 3:20 pm, 31 January
Airlines: Air France 2745 / 50
Connect in Paris (CDG)

Unfortunately for that moment its really big money for me. As you
know, I saved up some money, its about 100 dollars for the ticket and
all money for the visa. So I need about 1290 dollars more. Its really
hard for me to find now such money by myself, it will take about one
year more.

I dont know now where I can get such money. Will you help me with it?
Its really unpleasant for me to ask you help, but I its seems I have
to do it for both of us. What do you think about a date of our
meeting? Which is the best? The easiest for me is to take vacation at
the next month. Please write me your opinion. I am waiting your
responce with impatience and I hope for soon meeting. I am sure that
meeting in person will be better then thouthands of letters! And I
cant wait to see you in person!
Most sweet kisses, your
Anna


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