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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-01-09, 14:08:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
chavos de mexico me dedico a encontrr putas que quieren dinero no manden nada mandale a la perra una aspirina para que cuando no le mandes el dinero se ba acentir mal ok saludos a todos los Mexicanos y viva mexico


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2009-01-09, 14:11:30
anonymous from United Kingdom  
chavos de mexico me dedico a encontrr putas que quieren dinero no manden nada mandale a la perra una aspirina para que cuando no le mandes el dinero se ba acentir mal ok saludos a todos los Mexicanos y viva mexico


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2009-01-09, 14:12:06
anonymous from United Kingdom  

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2009-01-10, 07:05:29
anonymous from United Kingdom  
I was contacted recently by this scammer (nastyshalove@gmail.com). She/they found my email address from some old website that I used 5 years ago. I intially replied saying that I am happily married to a Russian girl, which I am :-) and wished her luck with her search. She then replied like this,

I hope that our acquaintance will not be finished and you willwrite to me? Or I am not interesting to you? Tell me what not and if I do not like you that I I shall not wait foryour letter. Nastya.

I wrote my next reply in Russian, and got yet another email of the type above! Bizarre. I guess it is all automated now and they don't even bother reading the first few exchanges, until they think someone might aken the bait.

Obviously a scammer, beware...

BY the way, it's NONSENSE to say that young women can only leave Russia to get married (!) The UK, at least, is full of Russian students, and my wife first came here on a student visa to learn English. It may not be easy to get a visa from a specific destination country, but Russia will not prevent anyone from leaving, I can't believe the North Americans believe that.
2009-01-11, 12:24:21
anonymous from Italy  
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2009-01-14, 13:31:19
anonymous from Spain  
ALGUIEN CONOCE A ESTA RUSA
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2009-01-14, 13:33:37
anonymous from Spain  
ALGUIEN SABE QUIEN ES
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2009-01-15, 11:27:39   (updated: 2009-01-15, 11:29:03)
anonymous  
This woman is a scammer Her email Address Is ladydoctor2008@rumbler.ru And also gooddoctor2008@rambler.ru Also Kristina2008@mail.ru Her name is Christina Putnikova
and also called Kristina Putnikova her given address is 14-21 Pushkina St. Kazan Russian federation Her IP # was trace to moskva moscow


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2009-01-15, 11:36:41
anonymous  
I met this girl on other anti scam site I have also a picture of her also the name is Christina Putnikova if she is going to take the money by Western union she Change her name to Kristina Putnikova also the given address is 14-21 puskina St. Kazan Russian federation


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2009-01-15, 19:04:11
anonymous from United States  
i have a question. why cant you send a virous back to them. maybe eat up there hard drive. that would be a spendy fix.
2009-01-15, 19:22:26
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Christina/Kristina Putnikova is on Delphi already (with a different addie): http://www.delphifa..117.shtml
Maybe the Anon can post his info there.

More info on Kristina Putnikova:

http://agencyscams...kova.html

http://foros.intern..b5ecc97ed

2009-01-16, 01:39:37
anonymous from Saudi Arabia  
Christina what a beautiful name but does not fit her personality SCAMMER
2009-01-16, 23:35:05
anonymous from Colombia  
Anna Saripova tiene diferentes rostros... Cuidado!!!


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2009-01-17, 12:22:41
anonymous from Saudi Arabia  
My lovely man, I am madly glad to see your letter!
Your each letter like a sun beam interferes
through darkness in my life and disperses
melancholy! My darling, I am always glad to
receive from you the letter in independence of the
maintenance of your letter! My darling, I know,
that you will always love me, even then when we
will be at a great distance! But it not the
variant to communicate through the Internet! We
adult people and we love each other, therefore it
is necessary to do everything, that is in our
forces that I can arrive to you! I love you and
never I will leave you one! To me has bothered to
communicate through the Internet and I wish to
touch you, to hear your voice every day, to caress
you, to make love etc. I Hope, that we can collect
all sum that we have spent this Christmas with you
together!
I have asked to descend sister in bank! I spoke to
you about it. It descended in bank and could take
only 2000 dollars. My darling, I need to find 2050
more dollars. I have found half and I do not have
possibility to find some money as I have tried all
methods more! My darling, I understand, that your
sister has two children who go to school! I it
understand all also I do not want, that you used
its money! In any case do not take from it money
as I do not want that because of me your relatives
suffered! My darling if you could borrow money at
any friend or to take in bank it would be the best
variant! I also wish to remind, that if you will
send to me 2050 dollars I will not spend them! I
will need to show only to their customs, that I am
solvent! My darling, I hope, that you can find a
way out of this situation and help me at present!
When I to you will arrive, we will give money
there where you them took! All will be good! I
love you!
I will wait for your answer as soon as possible!
Yours and only yours Kristina!
P.S. My darling, my name is correctly written -
2009-01-17, 12:28:32
anonymous from Saudi Arabia  
Hello my dear *******
My lovely man, I am madly glad to see your letter!
Your each letter like a sun beam interferes
through darkness in my life and disperses
melancholy! My darling, I am always glad to
receive from you the letter in independence of the
maintenance of your letter! My darling, I know,
that you will always love me, even then when we
will be at a great distance! But it not the
variant to communicate through the Internet! We
adult people and we love each other, therefore it
is necessary to do everything, that is in our
forces that I can arrive to you! I love you and
never I will leave you one! To me has bothered to
communicate through the Internet and I wish to
touch you, to hear your voice every day, to caress
you, to make love etc. I Hope, that we can collect
all sum that we have spent this Christmas with you
together!
I have asked to descend sister in bank! I spoke to
you about it. It descended in bank and could take
only 2000 dollars. My darling, I need to find 2050
more dollars. I have found half and I do not have
possibility to find some money as I have tried all
methods more! My darling, I understand, that your
sister has two children who go to school! I it
understand all also I do not want, that you used
its money! In any case do not take from it money
as I do not want that because of me your relatives
suffered! My darling if you could borrow money at
any friend or to take in bank it would be the best
variant! I also wish to remind, that if you will
send to me 2050 dollars I will not spend them! I
will need to show only to their customs, that I am
solvent! My darling, I hope, that you can find a
way out of this situation and help me at present!
When I to you will arrive, we will give money
there where you them took! All will be good! I
love you!
I will wait for your answer as soon as possible!
Yours and only yours Kristina!
P.S. My darling, my name is correctly written -
Kristina! Ok?
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