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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-01-29, 22:24:58
anonymous from China  
Another picture for scammer liliya3003@yahoo.com


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2009-01-29, 22:27:00
anonymous from China  
Another picture for scammer liliya3003@yahoo.com


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2009-01-30, 00:48:43
kueball27@yahoo.ca from Canada  
To Slovak Republic,

Yes she is. It's to bad really. Oh well. I stopped communicating with her, him or who ever, after they would not answer questions I had asked. Today, after 4 days, I received another e-mail. I have to give them credit. They don't give up.

Cheers.
2009-01-30, 01:58:12
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Keep up the good work you guys and eventually they end up like those below!!!

Keep posting your experiences and photos to help others!!!

007


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2009-01-30, 05:41:11
anonymous from Slovak Republic  
anonymous from UK. i do not know why you call 007 an asshole. but i do know why i call you an asshole now. please donĀ“t spam here. go and spam at the web site of your basic school.
2009-01-30, 08:51:16
anonymous from United Kingdom  
anonymous from Slovak Republic

Many thanks for your support, it is very much appreciated!

The exact same message has arrived from many 'locations' around the world, so I'll give you one guess as to what 'they' are!!!

Keep up the good work!!!

007


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2009-01-30, 12:52:17
OJAS from United States  
Thanks Sloavak Republic,

Another ''Brave'' guy 2009-01-30, 04:11:06 (so called UK) who cannot sign, but hides behind the shield ofanonymity!
You may be incapable of learning respect, but even you could learn to spell, and be an arsehole. You have learnt copy / paste and also hide your location, and pretend to be in UK, Germany, US, etc.

If you have a better strategy, why don't you make regular contributions?
It is of course easier to throw than to catch, and attack others when they help newbies.

You are of course oblivious to strategies that can make a Boris kneel and cadge for mercy, else you would have taken direct action them, instead of your pusillanimous course!

It suffices to post your invectives on a single thread, no need to spam a site with your supposedly cerebral content, you have so efficiently levitated, but their rectal origin is unmistakable!
2009-01-30, 17:59:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
To anonymous from United Kingdom - 2009-01-30, 04:11:06 - who wrote the following crap - 'TO THE PATHETIC 007 ENGLISH ASSHOLE I DO HOPE WHILE YOU READ THIS USEFUL INFO YOU LEARN SOMETHING AND STOP THIS BULLSHIT'.

One thing that amazes me and make me understand that you are NOT from the UK at all and that you are completely illiterate, is that the UK comprises, England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales and you in your ignorance called me an English XXXXXXX!

But you're certainly NOT from the UK!

'Remember, what goes round, comes round'

OK!!!

007 - James Bond from London, England, UK





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2009-01-31, 04:23:52
anonymous from United Kingdom  
This site is in danger of people posting unrelated comments, can I suggest that the 'copy and paste' merchant get onto the real problem of identifying and exposing the scammers as this is the primary aim of most people who visit the site. Insulting people has no purpose and is not the reason the the site was set up for.
2009-01-31, 11:35:44
molinric@gmail.com from United States  
Boy, this piece of shit got RIGHT to the point. This is his actual email. From SinglesNet.com. I would LOVE to know how they do this shit.
LILY zarah: How are u doing today ?
Rick Myrtue: Pretty well, actually.
LILY zarah: i am fine too
LILY zarah: well i am Lily and u
Rick Myrtue: That is good. How is the weather in Accra?
LILY zarah: Fine .. how do u know i am from Accra Ghana ?
Rick Myrtue: you told me.
LILY zarah: oh tht cool
LILY zarah: so tell me wht ur name too
Rick Myrtue: Richard
Rick Myrtue: Do you have pics?
LILY zarah: yes
LILY zarah: i am Lily and i am 35 of age and u
Rick Myrtue: I am 59, in USA
LILY zarah: oh tht nice to hear
LILY zarah: so tell me wht kind of woman u looking for on here and howw long have u been looking for the right woman
Rick Myrtue: I have been looking for some 2 years now, looking for a nice, fairly attractive, stable woman
LILY zarah: oh ok
LILY zarah: so have u ever meet any woman from Ghana before and how long have u been single and been on singlesnet
Rick Myrtue: 1 year, met Samira Razik
Rick Myrtue: pretty thing
LILY zarah: ok and how did it end up with u and her
Rick Myrtue: we kind of lost contact, for some reason
LILY zarah: ok tht cool
LILY zarah: so can i see ur pics also
LILY zarah: can u see mine
Rick Myrtue: yes, hang on
LILY zarah: ok
BUZZ!!!
Rick Myrtue: Ok, Hang on, if you would
Rick Myrtue: yes, I can see yours
Rick Myrtue: blurry
LILY zarah: ok so can u send urs to me
LILY zarah: so tell me wht work u do for living ?
BUZZ!!!
BUZZ!!!
LILY zarah: are u there now
Rick Myrtue: yes
LILY zarah: send me ur pics Rick
LILY zarah: Well i am looking for the right man who is ready to be in an honest relationship with me i have been tried of been in sin i dont want to be played i am looking for a good and honest relationship.......are u willing to be the man for me
Rick Myrtue: your pictures are still blurry
LILY zarah: oh ok i will be sending them again
LILY zarah has closed photo sharing.

Rick Myrtue: Do you believe in Long-Range Romance?
LILY zarah: yes i belive and u
A problem occurred while transferring the file 'Lilly Zarah..bmp'. The transfer has been stopped.

Rick Myrtue: Well, I believe that it can happen, although there are a BUNCH of Scammers out there
LILY zarah: oh yes and i want to know wht work u do for a living ?
Rick Myrtue: I build and remodel houses
Rick Myrtue: and buy and sell things
LILY zarah: ok
LILY zarah: tht cool
LILY zarah has canceled the file transfer.

LILY zarah has canceled the file transfer.

LILY zarah: so telll me i want to know if u can send me some money for my internet bills
Rick Myrtue: still cannot see the pics. They won't download. I am on Satellite internet
Rick Myrtue: maybe. How much
LILY zarah: 150
Rick Myrtue: dollars?
LILY zarah: yes
LILY zarah: and where can u send it to
Rick Myrtue: what do I get in return?
LILY zarah: sexy pictures and nacked ones i mean
Rick Myrtue: can I get a sample? Heck, I cannot even get the ones that you just sent.
LILY zarah: oh yes i promise i will do tht in return ok
LILY zarah: u can send me now ok
Rick Myrtue: how?
LILY zarah: oh yes u can send it to western unoin
Rick Myrtue: ok, give me an address. How many pictures do I get?
LILY zarah: oh yes many as u want
LILY zarah: Name : Zarah salifu
country : Ghana
LILY zarah: City : Accra
LILY zarah: Zip code :00233
LILY zarah: raod : Kanda high way
Rick Myrtue: Where is your Display Picture?
LILY zarah: how long will it take u to get it send
LILY zarah: i will do everything for u when u get back from western union
Rick Myrtue: Pics of you naked, in various poses? Maybe sucking some guy off? With CUM on your face?
Rick Myrtue: Taking it in the Ass?
Rick Myrtue: THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!
LILY zarah: yes we will do everything and i will be showing u my cam when u back ok
LILY zarah: i will give u all wht u will be needing ok
LILY zarah: i will show u my cam
Rick Myrtue: Oh, boy, I cant't wait. can you show some NOW?
LILY zarah: no
Rick Myrtue: Ok, Let me get the address right:
LILY zarah: ok
LILY zarah: i have already sent it
Rick Myrtue: Zamira Salifu,Kanda Highway, Accra, Ghana, 00233
Rick Myrtue: Right?
LILY zarah: zarah
LILY zarah: zarah salifu ok
LILY zarah: copy the right thing okl
BUZZ!!!
Rick Myrtue: Zarah
LILY zarah: yes
Rick Myrtue: Ok, Young Lady, Hold your Fucking Breath, until I get back with you.
LILY zarah: ok
LILY zarah: i will be waiting for u ok
Rick Myrtue: Oh, did I mention that Samira Razak turned out to be Melissa Midwest, an American Porno Star?
LILY zarah: OK
LILY zarah: I WILL BE WAITING FOR U OK
Rick Myrtue: And had pretty much YOUR Address?
LILY zarah: GO AND BE BACK SOON SO WE CAN DO OUR OWN THINGS OK
Rick Myrtue: I will tell you what, Kid. There are some IGNORANT Mother Fuckers in Accra, aren't there?
2009-01-31, 16:42:47
anonymous from Italy  
HEI RAGAZZI ATTENZIONE IL SITO WWW.LOVEPEDIA:IT E' PIENO DI RAGAZZE DELL' EST EUROPA !!! SONO TUTTE TRUFFATRICI VOGLIONO SOLAMENTE I NOSTRI SOLDI !!!!
2009-01-31, 23:24:46
[hidden] from New Zealand  
hi apreciate any input on this photo she goes by the name of zilya


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2009-02-01, 02:03:51
anonymous from Australia  



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2009-02-01, 03:00:41
OJAS from United States  
2009-02-01, 07:05:15
anonymous from United States  
I just meet a russian girl that is 21. She is very pretty . She has no money no job and lives with friends. I offerd her to move in with me after 2 dates because she has no where to go and because i feal bad. What are some ways i can tell if she just uses me? or things are going to work out good


thanks Mark
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