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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-02-14, 08:04:21
anonymous from United Kingdom  
well said ojas and steve people who do these scams only give themselves and the country that they portry a bad name/reputation
2009-02-15, 11:02:11
[hidden] from Germany  
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and another one
Cheryl Lawlis (lawlis_cheryl@yahoo.com)

IP 62.173.55.203 traces to Lagos
also listed at romancescam as Cheryl Lawless
claims to be from Miami, Florida presently in Nigeria to buy antikes and gold !!!! haha

claims to stay in an Hotel, but was unable to give hotels name or address
finally provided the 'hotel managers' name and address as being
Name: James Wilson
Address:17/19 Adebowale str off Saabo, Ojodu Berger
City:Ikeja
State:Lagos
Country: Nigeria
Zipcode: 23401




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2009-02-15, 11:03:09
Fred from Germany  
Cheryl Lawlis (lawlis_cheryl@yahoo.com)


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2009-02-15, 11:03:44
Fred from Germany  
Cheryl Lawlis (lawlis_cheryl@yahoo.com)


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2009-02-15, 11:04:21
Fred from Germany  
Cheryl Lawlis (lawlis_cheryl@yahoo.com)


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2009-02-15, 11:05:36
Fred from Germany  



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2009-02-15, 11:06:25
Fred from Germany  
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2009-02-15, 11:15:03   (updated: 2009-02-15, 11:17:52)
fred from Germany  
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Ghana is so poor there isnt any internet link there !!! lol
here the story

IP 41.204.224.16
Salomay Kyeraa <kyeraas@yahoo.com>

Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:44:56): hi
fred (14.02.2009 11:45:04): hi dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:45:19): how are you today my dear ?
fred (14.02.2009 11:45:28): i m fine and you
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:46:04): fine my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:46:19): i miss you today
fred (14.02.2009 11:47:17): you did not send me your picture
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:47:21): where are you now?
fred (14.02.2009 11:47:39): i m at home
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:47:44): give me your address to send then now
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:47:50): ok my dear
fred (14.02.2009 11:47:55): fl2008@live.de
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:48:27): i hope you will send me yours?
fred (14.02.2009 11:48:50): will do too
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:49:13): ok my dear you can check it now
fred (14.02.2009 11:49:24): ok got it
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:49:38): ok my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:49:51): and i know you will like them
fred (14.02.2009 11:51:58): ok responded with mine
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:52:15): ok my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:54:14): do you like my pics?
fred (14.02.2009 11:54:32): yeah, looking good
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:54:49): thank you my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:55:17): so can i be your lovely lady to spend the rest of my life with you?
fred (14.02.2009 11:55:33): we will see
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:56:26): ok my dear i am very serious to find my serious man to meet in the rest of my life
fred (14.02.2009 11:56:39): where did you get my IM
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:57:28): what my dear ?
fred (14.02.2009 11:58:05): where did you get my yahoo messenger address
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:58:30): i cant remeber that
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:58:37): my dear and you?
fred (14.02.2009 11:58:59): well, you contacted ms and i accepted
fred (14.02.2009 11:59:19): thats why i wonder
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 11:59:30): me too
fred (14.02.2009 12:00:09): were you on a dating site??
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:01:40): datemefree
fred (14.02.2009 12:02:02): ah ok, may from there then
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:02:31): ok my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:02:45): can you tell me your country?
fred (14.02.2009 12:03:09): Germany, told you yesterday
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:03:30): oh sorry
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:04:02): i will be very happy and great to get you in my life
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:04:18): to spend the rest of my life with you too
fred (14.02.2009 12:04:42): how comes you have to go to datging sites??
fred (14.02.2009 12:05:06): there should be masses of boys running after you
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:06:05): please my dear my serious man not a man who will play me games ok
fred (14.02.2009 12:06:44): so you thnik a 55 old man is better foryou
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:07:11): yes ofcouse my dear
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:07:38): age is not a matter of age but from heart
fred (14.02.2009 12:08:09): yeah,you are right
fred (14.02.2009 12:08:38): do you have a cam
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:08:43): ok my dear so dont think about age
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:10:59): no cam my dear
fred (14.02.2009 12:10:59): so where are you from??
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:11:20): from Ghana
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:11:29): i told you before
fred (14.02.2009 12:12:14): yes, you said Berekum
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:12:36): yes my dear
fred (14.02.2009 12:12:56): so why is your mail coming from Abuja??
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:13:41): is where the links from
fred (14.02.2009 12:15:12): well, thats a long link
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:15:43): Ghana here they dont have any internet link here so get it there
fred (14.02.2009 12:16:13): oh lala, you need to get another story
fred (14.02.2009 12:16:38): Ghana has more cyber caffees than any other country in Africa
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:19:01): yes there is cafe here but the modren for the internet is from here ,even some cafe get there link from USA,CANADA, and other countries
fred (14.02.2009 12:20:59): of course, why dont you try another story
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:21:00): this net the link providers are in abuja
fred (14.02.2009 12:21:43): you are just another little wanker of a scammer
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:22:41): please my dear i am not and very serious ok
fred (14.02.2009 12:23:23): let me check the database of scammers and i am sure your IP has been reported
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:24:40): please if you are not serious to make me love tell to find some us
Salomay Kyeraa (14.02.2009 12:25:14): i am not and i am very serious


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2009-02-15, 11:18:50
Fred from Germany  
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IP 41.204.224.16
Salomay Kyeraa <kyeraas@yahoo.com>


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2009-02-15, 11:19:29
Fred from Germany  
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IP 41.204.224.16
Salomay Kyeraa <kyeraas@yahoo.com>


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2009-02-15, 11:20:06
Fred from Germany  
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IP 41.204.224.16
Salomay Kyeraa <kyeraas@yahoo.com>


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2009-02-15, 11:41:31
Fred from Germany  
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and one more


Silvy Sanchez <silvysanchez@yahoo.com>
claims to be from 'calotte', NC meaning Charlotte NC presently for business in London UK

her IP 82.128.96.224 traces to Abuja, Nigeria

have not told her yet i detected the scam, i will keep her busy for some time
and no, despite a Name and look that would suspect an hispanic origin, 'she' does not speak spanish



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2009-02-15, 11:42:21
Fred from Germany  
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Silvy Sanchez <silvysanchez@yahoo.com>


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2009-02-15, 11:43:03
Fred from Germany  
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Silvy Sanchez <silvysanchez@yahoo.com>


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2009-02-15, 11:43:48
Fred from Germany  
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Silvy Sanchez <silvysanchez@yahoo.com>


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