Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
Goodday my dearest one,
firstly I thank you for your reaction to mine email; In line with the message, which I have sent to you.
How was your night over there in your country,i believe you had a nice night and that the arthmosphere over there in your country is very nice today? Mine is a little bit warm over here in Dakar Senegal.
My name is Jenny Johnson i am (23) but age doesn't matter in a real relationship, so i am confortable with your age,I am from Rwanda in West Africa ,5.4ft tall, light in complexion single,(never married ) and presently i am residing here in Dakar as a result of the civil war that was fought in my country some years ago.
My late father Dr Koneh Johnson , was a politician and the managing director of a Gold & Mine Ind in Kigali (the capital of Rwanda) before the rebels attacked our house one early morning and killed my mother and my father in cold blood.
It was only me that is alive now and I managed to make my way to a near by country Senegal where i am leaving now as a refugee under a Reverend-Pastor's care and i am using his computer to send these message to you.I would like to know more about you. Your likes and dislikes,PLEASE Do to not be offended for this message that comes from me please, fair which to me obliged to put simple trust on you due to my situation here as the refugee and I shall demand most your conscientiousness after yours to know about me, I shall really grow fond we to have good inspite attitudes therefore I have this as a trust which i belive that you can not betray it at the end. I have communicated you because of my difficault situation here in this refugee camp;Its just like one staying in the prison and i hope by Gods grace i will come out here soon.
i don't have any relatives now whom i can go to all my relatives ran away in the middle of the war the only person i have now is Rev Peters Samuel, who is the pastor of the (CHRIST DE SAVIOR MISSION) here in the camp he has been very nice to me since i came here but i am not living with him rather i am leaving in the women's hostel because the camp have two hostels one for men the other for women.
The Pastors Tel number is (+221-771-628-985) and his EMail address is (email@example.com) .Honey if you call,tell him that you want to speak with me he will send for me in the hostel.As a refugee here i don't have any right or privilledge to any thing be it money or whatever because it is against the law of this country.My love I want to go back to my studies because i only attended my first year before the traggic incident that lead to my being in this situation now took place.
Please listen to this(please it's a secret,even no one knows about it acept the Reverend that knows about it),i have my late father's statement of account and death certificate here with me which i will send to you latter,because when he was alive he deposited some amount of money in a leading Foreign bank which he used my name as the next of kin,the amount in question is $6.5(six Million five Hundred Thousand USDollars).
So i will like you to help me transfer this money to your account and from it you can send some money for me to get my travelling documents and air ticket to come over to meet with you.I kept this secret to people in the camp here the only person that knows about it is the Reverend because he is like a father to me.So in the light of above i will like you to keep it to yourself and don't tell it to anyone for i am afraid of loosing my life and the money if people gets to know about it.
Remember i am giving you all this information due to the trust i deposed on you.I like honest and understanding people,truthful and a man of vision,hardworking and GOD fearing people.My favourite language is english but our language is french but i speak english very fluently.Meanwhile i will like you to call me like i said i have alot to tell you.Attached here is my picture.I will send you more in my next mail.Have a nice day and think about me.Awaiting to hear from you soonest.
Yours in love,
[hidden] from Reykjavík, Iceland
beware on a website nordic-dating.com. it is festered by scammers.
I have met many russian girls during vacations in my life and been reading a lot of things about internet dating with them.
One thing i have never understood is why men still dont see that this is nothing else than a big scam!
Its so stupid i cant even believe it sometimes when men who recieve emails and pics from a beautiful russian girl that have almost no clothes on and thinks she want marry, What world do you all live in??
Stop sending money to those scammers...
OJAS from United States
Post ''her'' e-mail address; We'll try to get some baiting help. As you know, most likely, it is a he. Also, if you have an e-mail from this scammer, post 2 more fields.
2) X-Mailer or X-Y Mailer you get from the header
3) Sender IP
I have posted recently about getting header procedure, and extracting sender IP.
DO NOT POST ANY PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION ABOUT YOURSELF.
anonymous from Peru
Last week I have received five messages from ekaterina. Really, I am in love of her, she is beutifull. Letters are similar that you have received earlier.
What happens if I acept to stablish with her a love relationship? Who is comming to my country, another women or nobody? What is the risk for me to continue this communication? Please if some body can reply these queries, i will appreciate.
THIS IS THE LAST MESSAGE:
Hello my lovely knight in the shining armor,
I am so glad to see your letter again,I think I am a lucky girl to meet
such man and I will do my best to meet you in real life!
you know I can work in any city of your area because it is free choice
and agency only helps me to get only travel documents (work visa)and
ticket, and I do hope that we will like each other and now I have the
destination. The agency will also suggest some places to work in.
I do hope I have met my right man!you know I have told you before one
of my friend worked abroad last year and have met right man,now they live there and they are going to
marry. by the way now they are arranging the trip to Russia,(he wants
to meet her parents and friends)I think if I feel that you are my dream and you have the
same feelings we could think about our future together. if not I will just work and return back when the time to travel back.
you know I am new here and I am afraid to make any mistake. I have one great lack,I am very impatient sometimes
I can act without thinking. Sometimes I think that my dream is getting for real and it is so bad to be disappointed later.
I want you to know all small things about me because it shouldn't be any misunderstandings between us.
I want you to know that I am not angel and sometimes I can show my character.And I don't wait that you to be angel too, I just want to meet a kind man .
I am very kind and I can forgive almost all I can't forgive if my man sleep with different woman, I don't know many nessesary words in english.
I hope you can read between lines. A little more about myself!
I belive in love and for me doesn't important age of men who i will love. Because i know that love is a feeling without any stereotype.
I've been modeling for some time. I am sending you my professional photos.
my favorite activity is swimming. I like to swim in the Swimming pool
very much. I wish we had the sea here! I like the sea! We have the sea near us but it is very cold one and It is
impossible to swim. We do have some lakes though. Sometimes I think that I was the fish in past life. I wanted to be as
swim trainer but I've been told that I will have ugly body with too wide shoulders.
I finished The Krasnoyarsky State Univercity, trainers faculty as fitness
trainer but I don't work on my profession because there are no good
fintess clubs in my city, I used to sit at home and to do all housework,helping my mom. I would
like to have good job,I may work dancing teacher, or trainer of fitness,you know I have a certificate.
I worked as a trainer a year ago . and I would like to do it again .you know how many more younger girls
want to get this job too!Alot of competition here. I want to tell you about things I like:
I like to make barbecue and I so much want to have my own home with fireplace.
usually I make very tasty ones and in principle I like to cook and it is not problem for me to cook something
tasty and I don't like to visit cafes and restaurants ,at first usually they can't cook weel(maybe only here) and second too high price.
I like warm weather. and my great dream is to live somewhere on tropical island.
Also I want to tell you about my dislikes: I hate our long winters it seems to me they will never end.
I hate lies and unfaithfulness. I hate evil people and politicans I think they like to play wars, I hate any wars.
What I like in a man: faithfulness, honesty. He has to be open- minded
and open-hearted, also easy-going. and much more important he is kind,kindness makes our world!
are you kind?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I think my man should be kind ,it is great feeling after love,only kind person may be happy,all rude people are unhappy.
or must be. A few questions yet, agency tells that I will have a room in nearest hotel near my future
work but if we like each other may be is it possible to live together?
I think we will enjoy life together. do you have your car?animals? I
can't drive and I do hope you give me a few lessons, to be fair I have so many plans .I will find out all travel details
about my flight this week. I will leave my town today in a two hours and i think I will be not
able to write to you today or so. When I am in St.-Petersburg I will send you short
letter to let you know that I am all right and they tell that it takes about two days to
get all nesseary papers, please confirm your phone number and
international airport, I want to be sure I have all your details and
Please don't look at different girls. I am the best(joke).
Well, I will close this letter I think I am bore today,and please feel
free to ask. See you soon!I can't believe everything is for real.
to be fair I am lost and my head is like any big station with a lot of voice!
KISS and LOVE Ekaterina! This image was also posted here: Dating scammer IP-Address 91.144.161 (...) Dating scammer Dariya