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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-03-19, 11:02:45
OJAS from United States  
The object of reporting as many scams as possible, is for google and other search engines to find them. A newbie may search for an exact phrase (up to 10 words max in google) and find hits of interest.

Of course those who already know these, don't need to read such posts, but may simply scroll down ... in my humble opinion.
2009-03-19, 12:32:15
OJAS from United States  
Hey Wanwan,
If you understood me, I am fully supporting your right to make posts here. You have the same rights, as everyone else.

The point I was making, is, if someone is not interested reading your or my, or any other posts, they can simply scroll down.

Clearly, that was a general statement. Hope you will continue to make contributions, forget about differences with others. After all, different views are part of democracy!

Mata-ne! :-)
2009-03-19, 19:44:11
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Wanwan...




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2009-03-19, 22:46:56
anonymous from United States  
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I am from minnesota and she found me online on singlesnet. she got my note I sent to another woman in michigan and claimed this woman was helping her.
2009-03-20, 02:12:39
anonymous from United Kingdom  
In my humble opinion, I think Wanwan is doing great. What is the consensus of opinion on here?
2009-03-20, 03:54:17
[hidden] from Clearwater, United States  
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hey finkbrian@rocketmail.com from minnesota and new to loveandseek.com. been on for 6 days and i cant fing believe the shit on here. osai williams scam artist tracymoore scam artist. today the new one is elena from volzhsk, russia. her email is lenanice888@rambler.ru im scared to even consider any of the women on here. i can tell scams now. its funny how you ask a question and they never answer it right like there a fu ing retard. was nice to have your site to better help me crack these bitches before they crack my checkbook. thanks brian from mn
2009-03-20, 04:45:43
anonymous from United States  
its funny how you ask a question and they never answer it right like there a fu ing retard.


It has been said many times before. They are not answering your questions because they are not wasting time reading your letters. Until it comes to the 'money' stage , with the Russian and Ukranian scammers the replies to your letters is all automated. They use a program called 'The Bat'
2009-03-20, 04:55:15
anonymous from Englewood, United States  
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kattysweety@inetcafemail24.com

Ekatherina' <Katerin_sweety@confiaencristo.org


Hope you have a good day!!
To begin with wish to let you know who you are talking to myself. My name is Ekaterina and I am from Russia. I am 28 year old. I am kind-hearted, open-minded, loving, tender, intelligent, respectful, with a sence of humour. And I hope my email did not disturb you. I I would like you to know this is not a junk or some bulk email. I am real female who has one purpose. What I want is to find a person who will understand me, who will like me for who I am. I try to find a friend, my , and my future partner. I want to love and be loved as I am very tired to be lonely. The internet dating is unfamiliar to me and I have never done it before. I was at the internet centre and somehow I visited worldwide site Englanddating and I managed to send you an email by means of some virtual programm. The manager who works there helped me as well. As you already know my name - Katya and I am from in Russia. My family is not big and I live now with my mother and I am lonely without my horny stallion. I am also make an attachment you my snap for you to know how I look like. I hope you are interested in making new friends and will email me to this message me back. If you are, please message me back kattysweety{AT}inetcafemail24[DOT]com
Longing for your respond.
Talk to you later.
Your new friend Ekaterina


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2009-03-20, 05:35:37
anonymous from United States  
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Wanwan come back You are doing a good job.
Post as much as you can. The more information the better.
I find all your postings very helpful. If someone doesn't like it they don't have to
read it or pay any attention. This site needs all the help it can get. LOL
There are only a few that put time and effort into trying to help others.
Please don't be discouraged by others remarks.
I have very little computer knowledge in fact, I'm self taught.
I wish, I could do the things you do. Keep posting on here. OK
Your Friend Agent 86 Maxwell Smart \\'^o^'//


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2009-03-20, 07:54:02
anonymous  
ok, bhoyz. of course everyone can post here whatever he/she wants. i just donĀ“t seem any reason to post here all those scam e-mails, which, as was mentioned here, are made by program 'the bat' that can generate millions of them... are you going to post them all here? good night and good luck then :-)
i thought the reason of this forum was to post pics, e-mails addresses od scammers and some other info that can be helpful. but if most of you want to read, read, read the same e-mails thousands of time, be it.
yes, i can scroll down and scroll down and scroll down - and get lost in posts that are not helpful at all.
i do not want to abuse anyone or create any mayham here.
no offence. peace :-)



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2009-03-20, 12:50:46   (updated: 2009-03-20, 12:54:19)
OJAS from United States  
2009-03-20, 14:51:31   (updated: 2009-03-20, 14:53:06)
OJAS from United States  
Clearwater, 2009-03-20, 03:54:17
you ask a question and they never answer it

http://www.delphifa..p=0#114286
2009-03-20, 23:07:24
anonymous from Cyprus  
2009-03-20, 23:08:40
anonymous from Cyprus  



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2009-03-20, 23:10:00
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