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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-04-01, 11:50:38
OJAS from United States  
Try this:
http://www.delphifa..46#138458
After replacing with kaya, you get http://images.googl..pg),katya
Is your katya Boris there?
It is already a Boris, since your X-Mailer is The Bat!
2009-04-01, 13:20:28
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Wan Wan IP77.88.32.83 originated in Russia; Yandex Server girl is on this site and others google the IP and search results
2009-04-01, 15:34:30   (updated: 2009-04-01, 16:26:19)
OJAS from United States  
2009-04-01, 16:48:54
anonymous from Italy  
who knows this girl? she is from Romania....


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2009-04-02, 16:40:36
OJAS from United States  
You are welcome, Wanwan, and thanks for the beer. The next time, I'll go for a saki. I'm about 200 km from home, and in the middle of thunderstorms, unwilling to leave my hotel, but the sight of your beer is refreshing, I'll see what I can find in the cafeteria.
2009-04-04, 09:17:50
anonymous from Bulgaria  
This girl on the pics is Russian pop star from Star Academy named Julia Parshuta
http://images.googl..1&ct=title
2009-04-04, 09:19:12
anonymous from Bulgaria  
2009-04-04, 09:29:35
anonymous from Bulgaria  
Sorry the link above don't work, try this one
http://www.parshuta..o/special/
2009-04-04, 14:28:51
anonymous from United States  
Here is letter I got Hello Dave! happy see your answer my inbox

I write you my emails from Internet cafe, I don't have my own computer.

I'm sending few photos for you today! I hope you are not tired to look at my photos?

This time I will write you more about myself. I think you should know more about my life

and my hobbies so you will know if we have any common interests.




I hope soon I will be able to come to your area by my birthday and we

will meet each other! I'm not sure why I picked you but I feel something special about you!




We live with our parents and my young sister in 2 room apartment.

I'm happy my parents will be not alone when I leave the for another country.

My father is 55 years old now, my mom is 49. You see my mom is much younger then my father and they are

very happy together. My mother is a teacher of mathematics in the school.




The name of my small city is Karech, it's near Ulan-Ude city(Republic Buryatiya).

Karech is quite small city and Yakutsk is a large city, the main city in our district.

Ulan-Ude is located on 65 degree of northern breadth. In a Ulan-Ude 63 frosts and 39 heats were marked.

Amplitude of fluctuations of the winter and years temperatures, exceeding 100,

any region of the world Average temperature in January - does not test 42,7 degrees,

in July + 18,7 degrees. For a year drops out up to 202 mm of deposits,

and as very much the greater river 'Selenga' here proceeds

As the biggest lake in the world 'Baykal' is not far from me . Distance up to Moscow - 8468 km




I graduated from Ulan-Ude Sports University two years ago, contemporary dance faculty. Yes we

have such faculty in Sport University! So I'm a professional dancer. I don't want to have a

dancer's career because I will have not much time for my private life and for relationship with a man. I

work as a dance teacher, I teach children from 10 to 15 years how to dance! Also I have a certificate of

fitness instructor, this is my another hobby. So it would be perfect if later I will find a work as

instructor or teacher of dances!!! I think it's a very good job for a woman, I'm always in a good shape

and I keep myself not that busy!

Do you know how to dance? If not I can teach you!

I can dance many different styles.




When I come to your city I will work as a waitress in a restaurant. I would like to work as a dance

teacher but I think you understand it's not possible to arrange such work by Internet because they want

to see how well I dance.

Anyway I will try to find such work when I come over there. Or maybe not a dancer but aerobics

instructor, I think it's also very good job.




Of course I will miss everybody but I want to have my own happiness!

In winter I like skiing, although we have cold winters... our summers are warm usually.

I color my hair to blond. The natural color of my hair is fair. I hope that's not a problem for you or

you like natural color of hair?




I like classic music, jazz, rock, lounge. I like music at all!

I want to try how to ride a motorcycle someday! I've never tried it!

I very much love flowers, I very much like roses and violets

I can play piano also, she teached me how to play piano.

I finished music school and I still play piano about once a week.




I suppose in few days I will leave for St-Petersrug and start my trip!

There is no any messenger in this Cafe so we can only keep emailing each other. I hope you are not

getting bored to read my emails?




My full name - Elena Kouznetsova. My birthday is April,05. I'm 25 years old, not that young I think?

I'm 173 cm tall (5.6.) and 51 kg weight (about 120 pounds, I'm not sure how much it is in pound but I'm

not fat!).

I don't know exactly my bust-waist-hips measurements, I don't have a reason to measure it

because I think it's OK and my body is proportionate )) I take care of my body, I do aerobics three

times a week and two times a week I go to the swimming pool twice a week.

My address here is Russia, Karech, zip code : 670022, Kilova 77 street, flat 309.




So now you have a representation of who I am....

I just can tell you that I enjoy life and I try to live to the fullest, I like to try new things. I'm

not that smart.. I was not that good in mathematics, physics, biology and so on! But I'm very tender,

caring, artistic, faithful, decent person.

Sometimes I can be not well organized, I think everybody had it's own minuses and pluses.

I don't look any special qualities in a man. I just hope he will be faithful to me and ready to create

a happy family with me and I will do everything to make him happy. I'm looking for a soulmate!

OK... it's time to finish my email. I'm sending a kiss by the wind to you and if I sent it to the right

destination you should receive it by evening )))) I hope you will catch my kiss somehow )))




Do you have an International Airport in your city? Please write me it's name an code. Or write me the

name of the nearest Airport to you.




Now I'm not at home often and of you call me my father will pick up

the phone and he can't speak any English and he will be shocked to hear the English speech. I still

didn't tell him about you but I'm going to tell him this week, I will write you about his thoughts on

this topic!




bye! your Elena







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2009-04-04, 14:31:15
anonymous from United States  
another picture of ' Elena'


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2009-04-04, 14:54:28
OJAS from United States  
Admin e-mail is on the left of this page. I will work on the information provided by Bulgaria
2009-04-04, 15:49:35
OJAS from United States  
2009-04-05, 09:37:41
rosyanna@yandex.ru from Brazil  



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2009-04-05, 13:45:17
Steve_dux from Australia  
About the reference relating to http://www.parshuta../special/
I've found no malware or virus on the referenced page! I'm using Kaspersky 2009

@ wanwan What computer security are you using?
2009-04-05, 18:43:29
anonymous from United States  
I also have emails from Elena!!! I Have the one posted prior to mine and this one!





Hello,new friend,

I hope you will like my email and photos!

I'm so happy to receive your answer! It was good to meet you on dating site!

You made my day! I feel something special about you so

I want to find a man who can tell me about the life over there and maybe

of course something more then just a friend!!!

I don't have a boyfriend so I'm free for new adventures!!!

I had a boyfriend, but it was nothing serious and we broke up one year ago because he moved to Urkaina.

I'm in Russia now, but soon I will leave Russia to make my trip so you can forget about our distance.

I've never been abroad, only in the South of Russia, the Black Sea, Sochi. I like warm climate ))

I've never tried to find someone in Internet but soon I will come to your country to work there,

so I will have a work visa and a permission to work.

She wrote me she liked to work in the USA better!

I think my level of English is quite good, but although it's very simple.

I can't read philosophy books in English or business books))) Anyway

I want to improve my English while staying over there. I write and speak English by myself.

My spoken English is good too. We have Discovery channel here in English

(my friend has cable TV, so I come to watch it!). I like this channel so much! Very interesting!

I'm sending four pics for you


Also they can settle me with another girls from Russia,who came to work there too, it's very cheap.

Here I can earn only about 450-500$ a month to work from mornig till evening (my city is really small).

According to my visa I can work in your country for 3 months, I can prolong it to 6 months if I want.

After 6 months staying over there I can go home or try to get a green card.


I live in small town here in Russia, and I decided to find someone by Internet not to be alone when I make my trip.

The life is different in every country and I think it's hard to live there when you don't know anybody.

I can do some simple job as a waitress, or to work in some shop.

And later when I improve my English I want to find a better job!

I will start my trip from St.-Petersburg, I will go there to pass English tests and have an interview.

I think everything will be OK!

Working program helps me to get the visa, permission for work and all travel documents and they will help me to get job. It's a special program for young people who is not lazy and make some money.


I think I can change my life and see many wonderful things and just different life.

I am full of plans and different dreams.

I am sure you will be not disappointed to meet me in the real life!!!

I don't have a special plan or something like that for a new relationship,

I'm open to everything! I don't want to be an abuse for you, if you will not want me as your woman,

we can be just friends!


But I hope you like me and my photos!



OK, I will finish this email... I don't know what else I could write you in my first email.

Your questions are welcomed!

Please answer me even if you don't like me, because you are the only man I am responding to.

If you don't like me I will continue my search. I hope so much to receive your answer!!!

I hope we can have a nice communication by emails so I will know somebody is waiting for me over there!

Not so long time to wait for me, really?

I hope you are my soulmate and we match each other!

Next time I can answer your questions if you have some and tell you about my family,

send you many pics of my family, also more of my photos!!!

Tell me about yourself and the place where you live! And send me photos!


Please write me at this my email, ' blonda_4ika@yahoo.com '


Sincerely, your new friend Elena











CRAZY GOOD THING I LOOKED THIS EMAIL UP B$ TALKING ANY FURTHER WITH Her!!!!


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