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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-04-11, 14:24:19
anonymous from United Kingdom  


It is very pleasant for me, that you have answered, after my last letter to you. It is very important for me.

In this letter, I want to tell to you about mine close and related people in my life. I hope, that you will be to my relatives for me the person, the related and favourite person in my life.

My parents: my mum and mine the daddy have died. I badly remember them, but I remember some the pleasant moments from my childhood: as I the daddy learned me to go by a bicycle as my mum learned to prepare for pel'menis and to bakee pies. Also I remember our last New Year when we celebrated this holiday together (mine the daddy, my mum and I am a little girl). It was in 1984, a holiday New Year. This year on February, 15, in the awful winter my parents have died in accident. Now, each winter reminds me of death of my parents.

After death of my parents, I was brought up by my aunt - the sister of my father. She has much given me to time when I was the little girl. My aunt has learned me to much. She has learned me to prepare I peep, to use cosmetics when I have matured. She has learned me to many female cunnings. Now my aunt brings up the child. I frequently meet them, we walk on park, we have good conversation. Sometimes I look after the boy when the aunt is borrowed.

Also, I have my uncle, he too helped in my education, after death of parents much. My uncle has daughter, we with her good girlfriends. We have met this New Year three together. My uncle helps me to rent an apartment in which I now I live.

Also, I have some close girlfriends with whom, I have good relations. My close girlfriend Olga, too searches for the man on the Internet.

I think, it is interesting to you to know, why I have not married here in Russia. I tried to find the person in the city, but I was not happy. I met men, but have not met the love. Men with whom I met, wanted only sexual contact and short attitudes. Many men use many alcoholic drinks in Russia. To me to like to be engaged in sex, but I want to do it with the person who will love me. I dream to learn, that such the present, mutual love.

Now, I do not want to get acquainted with Russian men. I do not believe them. I have decided to try to get acquainted through the Internet. Certainly, I understand, that the love cannot come through the Internet, but I think, that it is a good way to get acquainted. I hope to get acquainted with the good person.

I dream to create a warm home cosiness and happy family, in which we completely trusted each other, care and mutual understanding. I want to tell to it about you. On it I shall finish the letter to you. Having wished all most good. The good with us. Svetlana

P.S. Write to me about your relatives and friends, it will be pleasant for me, if you will send me family photos.
2009-04-11, 22:41:05
anonymous  
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Thank you, who ever you are!!! Common sense said 'it was too good to be true'. Same mo as above, just the beauty's name is different - Kseniya () - ksrtopop@yahoo.com - same pics! Even the ballerina and photo with the cat! We never got to the part about SHOW ME THE MONEY - yet - but I just knew it was comming... Thanks Again!
2009-04-12, 03:51:07
anonymous from Reunion Island  
salut all se nom vous dit quelque chose elle ma contacter sur site de rencontre
(Poddubnaya Oksana)
mais truc louche sur addreIP

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avez vius cette personne dans vos scammer?

merci d avance


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2009-04-12, 04:57:59
anonymous from Reunion Island  
merci wanwan

vais jouer avec lui ou elle jusqua demande argent lol

merci encore

2009-04-12, 20:26:07
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Reunion Island,

IP 91.144.161.133

IP address: 91.144.161.133
Reverse DNS: net161.144.91-133.yoladom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net161.144.91-133.yoladom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41786
ASN Name: ERTH-YOLA-AS (ZAO 'ER-Telecom' Company' Yoshkar-Ola ISP AS)
IP range connectivity: 2
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 91.144.128.0 to 91.144.191.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.ripe.net
Known Proxy? No

http://private.dnss..4.161.133

The IP-adress is the comp's fingerprint. IP 91.144.161.133 was used by others (Internetcafe? Scammergang in an apartment or a schoolbuilding in Yoshkar-Ola? Or just another forged IP?)...

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http://www.delphifa..618.shtml

http://antifraudint..p?t=20358

http://www.romances..p?t=12561

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http://www.romances..hp?t=9638

http://forum.croque..21&t=1212

http://www.livedate..list.html

http://www.delphifa..shtml?p=2

Sorry!




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2009-04-15, 14:55:19
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Reunion Island,

N'inquiéter pas. Ils ne vous attaquent pas. Ils ne m'attaquent pas. Ils n'ont aucune raison pour cela.
2009-04-15, 17:02:16
anonymous from France  
Do you know this russian girl? Her name is Alina
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2009-04-15, 17:50:48
OJAS from United States  
2009-04-16, 06:32:19
Atomcrochu from France  
Hi Wanwan,

Thank you for your help!!
her e-mail address: dmit-anzhelika@yandex.ru
Don't phone number,
she don't ask money at this time.... but I think that it will come

You will find below the header of mail:

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many thanks
Sayônara

2009-04-16, 08:35:59
OJAS from United States  
Merci, Atomcrochu,
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http://www.datingnm..hebat.htm
Au revoir! :-)
2009-04-16, 12:52:41
OJAS from United States  
Please use a space or carriage return at the end of URLs, otherwise it will not link.
In http://www.romances..hp?p=81831 (your
insert a space at the end of URL.
ariga-to! :-)
2009-04-16, 13:31:36
anonymous from Sweden  
Hello everybody.I just only wanna get stop for the scammers in the internet.I have been scammed of big money of Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan and they and other scammers writes same letters to all of the people in the internet.I hope people not send money to anybody in the internet.It is fake everything.I hope I can help men from got scammed of women in the internet.It is both of men and woman involved in the scammer-action in the internet.Women talk to men in the phone and draw theirs money from them.And men writes the letters to other men.I hope we can together get stop for the scammers in the internet.//Magnus from Sweden.
2009-04-16, 14:12:33
anonymous from United States  
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Yes this is a scam. It took about 23 e-mails to get to it, but the beautiful Russian lady finaly asked me for 3000.00 dollars american to get her a flight from Russia to America so we could be together. Even sent me a copy of her flight plan ending up in my town via Seattle Washington on flight 2340 and sent me a copy of her passport. It is a scam but she dose everything she can and promises the world if I will send her the money. Claims she has a job in my town waiting for her thru an agency that got her the job and a motel to stay in for a 6 month period. That way we could 'get to know each other on a much more intimate level'.
2009-04-16, 16:32:18
OJAS from United States  
Anon US If you have not seen it, first visit the US Embassy http://moscow.usemb..scams.html
2009-04-16, 19:18:00   (updated: 2009-04-16, 19:34:19)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Atomcrochu from France,

IP address: 84.113.14.86
Reverse DNS: chello084113014086.6.12.vie.surfer.at.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
ASN: 6830
ASN Name: UPC (UPC Broadband)
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): AT [Austria]
Country Currency: EUR [euros]
Country IP Range: 84.112.0.0 to 84.119.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Vienna, Wien
Country (per outside source): AT [Austria]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.ripe.net
Known Proxy? No

http://private.dnss..113.14.86

The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a mail server and dictionary attacker. Below we've reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers' networks and aids in law enforcement efforts. If you know something about this IP, please leave a comment.


http://www.projecth..113.14.86

You can present your information to your Embassy in Moscow. I'm sure they will be interested. Here is the info you need:

The Embassy of France in Moscow:
45, ulitsa Bolshaya Yakimanka, Moscow, 117049 (Metro station: “Oktyabrskaya”)

Tel: 007 (495) 937-15-00

Visa Section: 10, Kazansky pereulok, Moscow
Tel: 007 (495) 951-85-01

Website: www.ambafrance.ru -> http://www.ambafran..e_russie/

http://www.dipinfo...ceembassy




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