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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-04-23, 13:04:13
anonymous from Poland  

Expensive Piotr, mogę powiedzieć, że po otrzymaniu listu, mój nastrój jest zniesione.
To jest bardzo cool! Ostatnio Mam tylko nadzieję, że spotkanie. A ty?

Lubię czytać wiersze o miłości. W szczególności, jak poemat Puszkina 'Ruslan i Lyudmila'. Historia Endless Love.
Znam go kilka razy i za każdym razem, I coraz bardziej świadomi znaczenia miłości w życiu człowieka.
Życie bez miłości nie jest prawdziwym życiem, to jest jak życia roślin. Jest to bardzo trudne dla mnie żyć bez miłości,
SARS plisować kiedy nauczyli się z doświadczeń konsekwencje wzajemnej miłości. Nie chcę już powtarzać błędów.
I marzenie, aby znaleźć kolegów Oak.

Moje marzenie jest stopniowo sprzedawane. Do Ciebie, mój drogi, czuję takie poczucie, że dłużej. Myślę o tobie cały czas. A ty?
Proszę mi odpowiedzieć, że bardzo dużo! Piszę do was z całego serca i ufam ci. Wszystkie inne moje uczucia zgromadzisz.
I najbardziej poszukiwanych to meet you. To był dla mnie SARS plisować celów.
Nie mogę ogłoszenia drugiego człowieka, I just think about you. I proszę o odpowiedź do mnie jak najszybciej.
Twoje pismo daje mi wielką radość.
Wyślę zdjęcia kiedy byliśmy z naszymi przyjaciółmi w ogrodzie, w każdym domu!
Mam nadzieję, że podobał ci.



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2009-04-23, 13:06:04
anonymous from Poland  
Hello, my love! Bardzo się cieszę, do otrzymania listu od Ciebie! UŻYTKOWNIK mnie bardzo szczęśliwy.
Moi drodzy chcę ci powiedzieć, że nie mam własnych telefonów, I'm sorry.
I zostawiają cię mój adres:
34 st. Lobachevsky apt 33
Ryssland
Republiken: Mari Eł
Stad: Volzhsk
Moi drodzy Mam ogromną nadzieję, że wkrótce będziemy razem z wami, albo że nie będą mogły utrudniać nasze szczęście z tobą.
Co myślisz o naszym spotkaniu z tobą? Kiedy można spotkać się z Tobą?
Moi drodzy chcę ci powiedzieć, że jeśli nie do mnie zaufanie, nie możemy budować silne relacje z klientem. Ponieważ relacje można budować tylko na wzajemnym zaufaniu do siebie.
I zawsze marzeniem jest, naprawdę chcę być z Tobą w tym momencie. Mam nadzieję, że wkrótce wszystkie nasze marzenia z Tobą będzie rzeczywiste i będziemy razem z wami.
I czekamy na odpowiedź! Aleksandra!


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2009-04-23, 13:07:44
anonymous from Poland  
Ja bardzo przepraszam, że nie pochopnych wniosków i znieważony mnie. To byłem upokorzony. Ponieważ gdy mówiłam, że nie mam telefonu, to jest to przypadek. To jest mój stary telefon. Które od dawna zepsute. Czy mówisz do mnie nie miłe rzeczy. Tak szybko, jak można tak myśleć. Jeśli miałem telefonu, chciałbym dać ci jego numer. W mojej łzy, zrobić mnya bardzo bolesne.
Od samego początku listu, powiedziałem wam prawdę. Otworzyłem ci moją duszę, mam powierzone ci. Chciałem znaleźć dorosłych mężczyzn, ponieważ mają doświadczenie życiowe, oni wiedzą jak żyć.
I found you, I wybrali ci, jestem związany z tobą, kocham cię. Drodzy Piotr, życia mija szybko i nie wolno nam tracić naszego szczęścia.
Mam nadzieję, że wycofanie się z tego listu, a my wkrótce objąć sobą na lotnisku !!!!!!
Ale jeśli nie chcesz naszego spotkania z wami, tak do mnie i powiedz, ja już nie będzie można napisać.
Aleksandra!



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2009-04-23, 13:09:29
anonymous from Poland  
postaram zadać im trochę pracy i przeciągnę to jak najdłużej


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2009-04-23, 13:11:46
anonymous from Poland  
Mam nadzieję, że masz dziś dobry dzień.

Dziś miałem bardzo ciężkie. dzień
Byłem w biurze podróży w dniu dzisiejszym.

Mam wiadomość dla was 2 ...

Dobre wieści. Mam wszystkie szczegóły podróży do Ciebie.
Muszę się następujące dokumenty: paszport, wiza,
Informacje na temat zdrowia, zaświadczenie o ubezpieczeniu.
Chcę tylko powiedzieć do was moi drodzy Piotr, że mam wizy i paszportu, aby podróżować do Europy. I nie ma problemu, aby móc przyjść do Ciebie.
Pozostaje mi kupić tylko bilet. A my będziemy z wami razem.

Istnieją także złe wieści. Studiowałem w całkowity koszt całego rejsu:

Certificate of Insurance - 70 euro
Płatność biuro podróży - 50 euro
Droga do Moskwy lotniska - 65 euro
Zakwaterowanie w hotelu w Moskwie dwa dni - 50 euro

Koszt moich podróży bez biletu - 235 euro.

Bilety wstępu na pokład samolotu z lotniska w Moskwie 370 euro.

Koszt moich podróży-605 euro.

Byłem w szoku z terrorem, kiedy badano ją.

Moi drodzy Piotr, nie wyjaśnił mi, że jest to bardzo tanie kosztów podróży.
Podróż jest bardzo trudne i odpowiedzialne zadanie dla biura podróży.
Oni powiedzieli, że 605 euro - Tanie podróży do Rosji.

I rozmawiał z szefem w pracy, powiedział, że nie może mi pomóc. On nie może dać mi pieniądze.
Po prostu chciał podjąć pieniądze z jej mamą, ale nie miał takiej sumy. Ponieważ nie jest to człowiek bogaty.

Moi drodzy, to jest - bardzo dużą sumę pieniędzy dla mnie!
1 euro - 45 rubli.
To - 9 moje miesięczne wynagrodzenie!

Możesz mi pomóc z podróży?

Cóż ... Jestem bardzo zmęczony dzisiaj, czekam na odpowiedź. Mam nadzieję, że mnie rozumie i napisz do mnie.

Teraz idę do łazienki.
Kisses !!!!!
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2009-04-23, 14:45:37
anonymous from United Kingdom  
A lot of these passport photos are obviously the result of crap photoshop skills. In the unlikely event of you encountering one that isn't, here's a brief guide to spotting fake British passport photographs:

- All passport photos end up laminated. Does the scanned picture look laminated?
- Photos must be taken in a photo booth with a white background, in colour, and the subject must be facing and looking straight ahead. Photos with coloured/decorative backgrounds, faces at an angle, faces not centre or half outside the frame etc. are will be rejected.
- No objects or other people are allowed in the picture; no sunglasses, no hats.
- Must have a 'neutral' expression - no smiles or open mouths.

I suspect other countries have similar requirements.
2009-04-23, 17:39:27
OJAS from United States  
Thanks UK 2009-04-23, 14:45:37. I might also add that some countries require that one ear be fully shown. Since I have no knowledge of passport photo requirements, I hope those with expertise will add their contributions.
Cheers
2009-04-23, 18:22:59   (updated: 2009-04-23, 18:24:00)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
The Dutch rules concerning photos for passports are similar to UK. Guess these requirements apply to all European countries.

2009-04-23, 19:08:40
anonymous from United States  
i have recieved the same letter also recieved many letters and photos she was suppose to come here to usa now some problem with her money she needs my bank account to transfer money into my account so i can send her a western union


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2009-04-23, 19:16:51
mikeleino64@yahoo.com from United States  
who know this girl after numerious letters she still wont give me a address or
phone number her isp comes back unknown I saw her pic here another guy was asking about her also. she claims to want a relationship with me but is having a problem getting her money for her air fair from a relative


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2009-04-23, 20:50:15
OJAS from United States  
Anon US 2009-04-23, 19:08:40, NEVER GIVE YOUR PERSONAL INFO LIKE BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER TO STRANGERS!! It could be suicidal to your account!
2009-04-23, 22:05:23
Agent,86 from Salem, United States  
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mikeleino64@yahoo.com from the USA

Several bits of bad news for you right off the bat.
#1 Never post your e mail address on this site ! Ouch !
Scammers watch this site constantly. Welcome to my world, I made the same mistake.
Your inbox may turn into a 3 ring Circus.
Please take the time now to learn all you can about scams and scammers both.
Your going to need to know even more now.

#2 No matter who you are talking to on the Internet.
Never give any personal information out that can come back to bite you.
Never send money to anyone anywhere in the World. Not even your own relatives
unless you confirm live with them on the phone they actually asked for help.

#3 The fact your little miss there is being so hard to find out anything about should
be more than enough to send you running for your life. You show that your not being
a sucker by attempting to look up the IP address. But your like a Deer in headlight's, your not running to save your life.
Very simply put if anyone you hook up on line is not open and truthful at all times
no matter how simple the question. There is a very strong probability it's a scammer.
They hate trying to answer question's as they have usually 300 or so suckers to try
to keep track of in their heads as to what they said one time verses the next.
So push hard for answer's if you don't get full answer's run like, Hell is chasing You.
The fact the subject of money and her need for it has already come up.
My advice to you now is to end this now. Do not tell She / He anything about this site.
Yes, I said She / He as nearly all scammers world wide are men.
They steal photo's and pretend to be woman. They have friends or relatives talk to you
on the phone. Listen to the voice does it match what she looks like ?
Please this smells like a scammer from what you said. Find a nice girl where you
are its not worth getting your heart broke and your money stolen over someone you
don't know and isn't being open with you. As, I said take the time to learn about scams and scammers now you need to know if your going to survive.
Kind Regards Agent 86 Maxwell Smart \\'^o^'//
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2009-04-24, 02:38:38   (updated: 2009-04-24, 02:47:05)
CPH from United States  
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Interestingly enough, the 'scammer' I've been leading on has not asked for money, has not revealed that 'its' mom, seester, granny, or anyone is ill and that 'it' needs money. 'It' has not asked for travel money. We have been 'communicating' since April 6.

I'm waiting for the magic words to come so that I can send off my prepared response and it ain't gonna be pretty either.

It's entertaining, to say the least. Scammers be-gone!
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2009-04-24, 07:53:04
anonymous from Poland  



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2009-04-24, 11:42:37
OJAS from United States  
Asking money from strangers is a scam http://ladies-russi..t/Scam.php
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