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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-05-02, 11:24:03
anonymous  
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It Scammer?


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2009-05-02, 20:47:29
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Yes
2009-05-03, 01:33:21
anonymous from United Arab Emirates  
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Hi there, I have just recieved this one exactly the same as the above. Incredible. This one prowling japanprobe.worldfriends.tv website ...Watch out guys!

I was very glad to receive a letter from you. I've read your letter
very attentively and you seem to me a very interesting person, I would
like to know you better and continue correspondence with you. I think
that in my first letter I should tell you more about myself. I never
was before in Japan.My dear ++++, I work as the seller in a wedding
department in small shop of my city. My work is not complex and I love
my work, but unfortunately my wages are not such good as I would like
it. Thanks for your pictures which you have sent in your letter. It
was pleasant to me very much. You are the nice person and I shall be
very happy to see your new pictures in the further As you already know
my name is Katya, I am 26 years . I live in Russia, in Cheboksary.
This is a very quiet, small, but very beautiful town. I like it. My
town is situated in 700 km from Moscow. And what city do you live in,
++++? Tell me more about it. It will be very interesting for me. I
have lots of interests. I like to be outside, go to gym, dance, I like
to do aerobics, read, communicate with people and smile :) And what
are your hobbies? What do you like to do the most in your free time,
++++? Ok, I am finishing my letter now. I send you one photo of me
and I am looking forward to your reply with your photos. Please do not
send me big on the size of a photo. It is difficult for me to receive
the big photos. Sincerely, Katya

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2009-05-03, 01:35:29
anonymous from United Arab Emirates  
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watch out for this email ... katyhevuho@gmail.com


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2009-05-03, 07:21:26
anonymous from United States  
You know, guys, I think that I am going to simply Scam the Scammers. I am sending this letter to snowflake2185@rambler.ru. She looks like she needs a fat old American Letch, doesn't she? I will let y'all know what happens.
Wanwan- watch my dust, Young Jedi.
Hi. My name is Rick, I am in America. A friend gave me your address and told me that you liked American Men. Is that true? I am looking for a Young Lady to finish my life out with. As this life is coming to a close, I find myself with a bit too much money and not enough happiness. If you think that you might be interested in something like that, please let me know.
Rick


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2009-05-03, 18:17:03
OJAS from United States  
Anon 2009-05-02, 10:18:40, your scammer uses stolen pix of Aubrey Lemon, a model and Client of http://drrawnsley.com
http://images.googl..brey+Lemon
2009-05-04, 10:34:12
hectorinesc@gmail.com  
OYE YO TENGO ESTE TIPO DE PROBLEMA YA QUE TENGO UNA CHICA QUE ME HA ESTADO ESCRIBIENDO DE UNA DIRECCION ELECTRONICA alinapretty009@gmail.com, Y ME HA DICHO QUE TIENE DESEOS DE VENIR A MEXICO ME HA PEDIDO 500 EUROS PARA HACERLO COMO PUEDO SABER SOBRE LA VERACIDAD DE SU IP, AGRADECERE TUS COMENTARIOS
2009-05-04, 14:14:37   (updated: 2009-05-04, 14:16:03)
OJAS from United States  
2009-05-05, 08:50:25
anonymous from United Kingdom  
I found Aubrie Lemon on UTube as well. I find watching her beats the crapp out of reading about the antics of Eastern third world crims See
http://www.youtube...vJmTQLxE8
2009-05-05, 15:15:07   (updated: 2009-05-05, 15:18:32)
CPH from United States  
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I think I have another one on-line. However I can't place the original IP Address in Russia, as she claims to be Russian. Help?

From Aleksandra Tue May 5 08:07:18 2009
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2009-05-05, 15:33:59
OJAS from United States  
CPH, Good job, getting the Header. The 3 most useful data are:
1) Scammer e-mail address
2) X-Mailer from the header
3) Paste the header in http://ip2location...racer.aspx and hit Find Location button

Extracted Sender IP 69.126.32.27 OPTONLINE.NET, HIGHLAND, NEW YORK

This supposed to be a ''girl'' in ''Russia''
If ''she'' is forging an American IP, it IS A SCAM.

Btw, the ''she'' is most likely the stolen pic sent by a HE!!

Sufficient proof you got a Boris at the other end.
2009-05-05, 19:21:25
anonymous from Norway  
anyone out ther recognise this woman?

I the beautiful young girl. To me of 26 years. I the sociable, fair and romantic woman. I do not like when to me tell lies. I love classical music and opera. At leisure I like to read books, detectives and love novels. I want to find serious relations and to create happy family.


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2009-05-06, 07:26:11
[hidden] from Brazil  
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I am not expert equal you. But I wonder if they are scammers?

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2009-05-06, 07:29:38
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