Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
and finally. Anyone else scammed by her. She had me going for about a month and is just now mentioning visa and passport. Her pictures are definately everyday photos and some professional pics. therefore the pics were not just taken from a magazine, etc. She is not a helpless victum....oh my aching heart. just kidding I really feel good for being had@!!!
anonymous from United States
I stumbled upon this site for the Delphi stuff. I saw a link on the right bar and decided to click it. I've never had any dealings with any of these scammers, and never will. The reason for my post is to inform you that some of the pics above are from Las Vegas, NV, USA. I recognized some backgrounds that were from the Venetian, as well as Nascar Cafe. Also the one girl has a photo from Glamour Shots. Good luck and don't be suckers!
email@example.com from United States
How long is it going to be and what is it going to take before all of you guys realize that practically every Russian and African chick answering personal ads out there is a scammer 100% ?
C'mon lets get real here. I learned the hard way but I only lost a few hundred dollars in the process before I took all of the valuable information from this site and others and came quickly then to the realization that the thoughts of finding a young Russian or African bride is pure folly and is never going to happen .I repeat it is never going to happen and if you think that the young lady you are writing to is different from the rest of them….LOL…then you deserve to lose every penny you have and further more you are only again proving the old adage ,”that a fool and his money are easily parted “ .
There is hope however for those of us who desire a foreign bride! We just have been looking in the wrong place! Now where you might be asking is the right country to find a young and pretty woman who will be a faithful and loving wife and be always supportive of you and asks simply that you only love her and protect her and never abuse her ?
I have found that place and country and that one beautiful woman who I know will be for me a faithful and loving wife as I have described in the above paragraph!
For more information write to me at the email above and I will gladly give you the information that I believe will lead you to finding that “one” special woman that you have been long searching for ! You have a world of happiness to gain if you want !I welcome all of your e-mails !
Regards and Peace,Don
anonymous from Canada
why didn't you just mention it in your post rather then another e-mail? Not that difficult to do!!
Hey guys, look after 777 or 555 in e-mail adresses, they are scammers ( eks. katy777 ) . If they say ' to me of XX years ', they are scammers. Zvenigonov and Zelenodolsk is new scammer cities. See also on the headers if they use The Bat. Some now try to hide where they send from.
anonymous from United States
I think I have the best pictures yet! Everyone meet Galina! If you haven't already.