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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-06-15, 17:09:36
anonymous from Bolivia  
other pic Inna Koroleva
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2009-06-15, 17:09:36
anonymous from Bolivia  
other pic Inna Koroleva
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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2009-06-15, 17:10:30
anonymous from Bolivia  
this woman is scammer?


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2009-06-15, 18:39:10   (updated: 2009-06-15, 19:07:26)
DOC from United States  
Anon from Bolivia,
I suggest using the picture search at the bottom of this page,
or this -> http://tineye.com/s..d365b6846
google email address.
google name.
type name or email addy in search box at the top of this page.

Some info I found by typing her name in the search box above.
-> http://www.delphifa..61#138023

This your girl? I hope you did not send money.
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2009-06-15, 20:46:19
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon from Bolivia,

Inna Koroleva -> http://www.delphifa..tml?p=261

You find the real Inna Koroleva here -> http://www.zoominfo..287553921

2009-06-16, 09:37:11
anonymous from United States  
Here is another scammer


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2009-06-16, 09:37:59
anonymous from United States  
Here is another scammer
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Dating scammer Tatyana Bykonya
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2009-06-16, 09:47:35
anonymous from United States  
Your poor Anastasiya you know my rent address here is Russia, Moscow,
zip 127411, Uchinskaya street 18-75 flat 33. Remember that my full
name is Bambourina -(last name) .

Anastasiya - (first name) it is right writting in English, and you should put it on
western union list and you can choice any bank in moscow,they tell it is
international service and I can get money in any bank of
moscow.


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2009-06-16, 21:35:07   (updated: 2009-06-16, 22:16:47)
DOC from United States  
More on pic and passport posted as:
Anastasiya Bambourina -> http://www.internet..hp?n=4020



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2009-06-16, 23:27:47
wanwan from Japan  
@OJAS

ha,ha,ha,so cute !!
Nice links,thank you !!
my beagle is a big eater !
He eats everything !
Lately eats Tuna(law).
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2009-06-17, 04:23:15
[hidden] from United States  
I don't know where you are getting the info that girls are not allowed to leave russia. I have a girlfriend in russia. while it is true that it's nearly impossible for them to get into the u.s. they can travel out of russia. I have been to russia twice to spend time with my grl. I am meeting her in thailand in july and she has traveled to spain, france, italy, and egypt. once they turn 18 they are allowed to travel out of russia.
2009-06-17, 08:18:46
OJAS from United States  
Hidden US 2009-06-17, 04:23:15, My friend DOC drew my attention to your post.
http://www.delphifa..205#96536
http://www.delphifa..477#153362
2009-06-17, 09:23:14
anonymous from United States  
Hello Everyone, Yes scammed as well but not taken to the bank yet! Funny I knew this was too good to be true! So thanks to my way of thinking I learned alot from many other people. One of the things that I found interesting after having been bombarded by e-mails from Anastasiya Bambourina I thought what does an attractive girl want with a older man. Well, check this out go to website: http://www.myfreeem..@yahoo.com and you will find that this person is in Sunnyvale, CA...... Now that is really close to Russia, right?! Well, what I do find horrible is that maybe the girl in the picture is real (I hope) and she maybe Russian and trying to come to the U.S. Anyway I thought this maybe helpful if you can not trace the information with the IP address.
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Dating scammer Elizaveta
Dating scammer Svetlana Howralewa
Dating scammer Natalya
Dating scammer Tatyana Smirnova from Molodezhnyi, Russia
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalja (Natalia) from Berdsk, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia (modified photo)
Dating scammer Svetlana Kayumova (modified photo)
Dating scammer Yuliya Goncharova (modified photo)
Dating scammer Elizaveta (modified photo)
Dating scammer Natalya Mindubaewa (modified photo)
Dating scammer Tatyana Smirnova from Molodezhnyi, Russia (modified photo)



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2009-06-17, 09:45:27
OJAS from United States  
Anon US 2009-06-17, 09:23:14,
Here is the real girl http://www.delphifa..p=5#61450
Let me know, if you like additional links on her.
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As a follow-up on my earlier post,
Thousands of Russians travel abroad for pleasure http://news.bbc.co...477352.stm
2009-06-17, 09:58:28   (updated: 2009-06-17, 10:01:01)
DOC from United States  
Anon from U.S.
Sorry you were scammed.
Sunnyvale, CA is probably the yahoo server.
Take one of her emails view full header.
Copy/paste in here-> http://www.ip2locat..acer.aspx

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