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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-07-25, 07:20:48
anonymous  
hillo
2009-07-25, 08:45:56
vanvan from Japan  
2009-07-26, 10:33:44
David from United States  
Now she is sending stolen family photos.


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2009-07-26, 10:44:59
David,Adamms,  
One question. Why write a bunch of lies? You are a guy pretending to be a woman. The picture you stole looks hot and I wish it was you. Oh god, you don't know how well I could treat you and just how well you could be set if you were a real woman. But life sucks. Just the same, thanks for the picture. I can make some nice money with it.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Anna <annaevdokimova@ymail.com> wrote:
Hello my new friend!
I hot, sexual, cheerful, harmonous and The beautiful girl! I am young,
and very lonely! Unfortunately I have no Any favourite person! At me
the are not present children! But I am very strong I love children and
animals! I live in very beautiful city - Cheboksary Russia. To me of
26 years! I wish will get acquainted with the person which To love me
all life and to care of me. The main thing - love and mutual
understanding! I do not notice distinction in Age! I hope only for my
true love, and I hope that at Us all will be good! I agree to answer
all yours Questions which interest I with the great pleasure I shall
send you the Photos! I with impatience wait for your letters on my
address annaevdokimova@ymail.com as soon as possible, my friend!
Sincerely yours, Anna!!!



This scammer has been harasing me.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Anna <annaevdokimova@ymail.com>
Date: Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:08 AM
Subject: Hey club of paranoiacs!!
To: David Adamms <dadamms1@gmail.com>


Hey club of paranoiacs!!!!
I badly know English. Has not noticed that you are married and at you
all is good. That day I have written much. You ask why much. About
yes, you have at once an answer - I scammer!!! So there are more than
chances to find the present and good person. You know that you in the
country too have something reminding scammer. They call in the USA,
take away the passport and force to be engaged in prostitution. On it
if all was good also we would want will meet, I to begin with would
like will meet in Russia!!!!!!!! On mine if I was the boy, I would not
call to Russia. You so do not think? And yes, you the paranoiac. To
the doctor went? How on yours to me to search for the worthy person?
You can tell? No. As you the paranoiac and without discrimination
bring all in scammer. Now explain to me. From what you have solved
that I scammers? How many I about them read. They yet to time did not
call to Russia for a meeting!!!!!!!! Scammers dissuaded the person
from a meeting in Russia. What to make that at you the USA? You the
country of credits. All your economy keeps on credits. The person is
simply necessary to me. What the life is happy at us in the country.
Your people to another concern children.
P.S. Tell that I still have stolen a family photo!!!!!!!
2009-07-26, 12:12:57
wanwan from Japan  
@David
Thank you for posting.
But I found your personal e-mail address.
It is OK?
I guess it is very risky to you.
Scammers will send you scammish stupid mails with virus,trojans.
Your mail box will be flooded by scammers.

David,
This is an e-mail address,the site admin ,here
Admin: ptiemann_2000@yahoo.com
You can contact admin and you can remove your e-mail address.




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2009-07-26, 12:21:03
David from United States  
I'm not worried. And the post where my country is hidden isn't from me. It's from the scammer I have posted about. No worries here. My wife of 26 years thinks it's kind of cute. She likes the puppy. Maybe I'll get a few real email friends as my penpal ad has only attracted nuts like Anna. If the admin wants to delete my post more power to him. I simply thought that any woman who writes a guy who cleary says he is HAPPILY married talking about love is a scammer. I google about them and found this site. Seems there are a lot of them out there. As for me I may just delete my gmail account and return to hotmail. Going to delete my penpal ad regardless. But thank you for your concern. As I said, I am not worried.
2009-07-26, 12:51:44
wanwan from Japan  
2009-07-26, 12:57:37
wanwan from Japan  
http://www.flickr.c..53517427/

scammer,,,,
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Susan Zentos



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2009-07-26, 13:07:11
David from United States  
I might be wrong wanwan from Japan but the picture above looks a lot like the girl on the far right in the family photo my scammer sent me.
2009-07-26, 15:03:22   (updated: 2009-07-26, 15:04:49)
David from United States  
Now she's pretending to be someone else. Using a really stupid picture!

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On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Masha <cassiemahoney@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I live in very beautiful city - Kazan Russia. I love children and
animals very much. I wish to get acquainted with the person who will
be support in my life. To me of 27 years. I wish to get acquainted
with the person from 30 and the senior. Age not the main thing for me.
The main thing - love and mutual understanding! I do not notice
distinction at age. I hope only for my true love, and I hope very
much, that all with us will be good! I agree to answer all questions
which interest you. I dream of your letters! The POSTSCRIPT: Please
write to me letters only to cassiemahoney@rocketmail.com With
pleasure I shall send the photos. I shall wait. Yours faithfully.
Masha.


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2009-07-26, 17:37:57
OJAS from United States  
Thanks David. ''Anna's'' real face is here http://dailymail.co..cle-542276
2009-07-26, 18:45:23   (updated: 2009-07-26, 18:47:40)
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-07-26, 15:03:22 (updated: 2009-07-26, 15:04:49)
David from United States

Thank you ,David.
Good posting.
And I laugh my head off to see those picture,ha,ha,ha,ha,.
your girl,,,,









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2009-07-26, 18:48:56
David from United States  
I got my girl. 26 years ago. Still going strong. Hopefully have many more years to go. Met a woman at the store who married her guy in 1946 and they are still together. Hope to be that lucky.
2009-07-26, 21:26:28
DOC from United States  
Someone please Western Union that girl some money so she can get her teeth fixed and shave her eyebrows. LOL.
2009-07-26, 22:11:13
wanwan from Japan  
@David
@DOC
wa,ha,ha,ha,ha,aaaaaaaaaaa!!
You ,both are interesting guys!!
My boys !! Please you will go to Western Union and remit her for dentures!!!



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