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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-08-27, 17:49:57
it,me,again from United Kingdom  
2009-08-27, 23:32:05
DOC from United States  
its,me,again from United Kingdom,

Don't be confused. You are talking to a scammer.
2009-08-28, 01:28:18
OJAS from United States  
its,me,again from United Kingdom, ''She'' is from this city http://dailymail.co..cle-542276
2009-08-28, 02:20:32
wanwan from Japan  
@it is me again !

Please see this below !
2009-08-28, 20:57:14   (updated: 2009-08-28, 21:29:51)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Anon from UK,

The scheme looks Nigerian to me. It was done before by Russians (in a slightly different way), but it is not characteristic for Russian scammers. It's too stupid. It shows that the scammer doesn't know what he's talking about.

The girlfriend lives in America. Now it has arrived to Russia.
It has money for the account. But it cannot take them from
bank. Because the bank such is not present in Russia. And she
does not wish to give the big percent. Therefore she suggests
to transport money for your account! You have an account? At
me accounts are not present. If you send co-ordinates of the
account then it can send you money. And then you will send to
me through the Western Union. Understand? It is safe.


Anyone with a bankaccount can access the money in any country from any bank. Just insert your pass into the wall, type the correct pincode and... Don't forget to take the money. This very simple kind of privat banking functions in every country of the world. Even (or especially?) in Russia. LOL

BTW: Your girlfriend has a ring on the fourth finger of the right hand. If she's a real Russian girl, you are dating a married woman. Sorry.

BTW-2: Don't let them transfer money into your account. Ever heard of 'Money Laundring'? You will be held responsible.

Be wise: Block the sender.




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Dating scammer anastasiya



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2009-08-29, 15:17:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
tatiana6668@mail.ru
she startded talking to me on 26/06/09
her last message to me was 27/08/09.
ive got short videos of her, the kind you take on a digital camera, just saying hello.
i must have around 30 photos of her too, even the passport photo, i dont know if its fake or real.
when i had an idea she was scamming me, or trying to, i asked her for some naked photos, she sent them once i'd told her i'd sent the money.
when she realised the money wasn't coming she wasn't very happy, but carried on talking to me ok. she even told me i couldn't come to her town because it was closed to foreigners, i checked and it hasn't been closed since 2007, when i asked her she said she got confused.
i think the girl is real, but so is the scam
tell your friends not to send her any money at all

2009-08-30, 03:53:26
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
tatiana6668@mail.ru

Tatiana Timokhovich (aka Ivanova)

http://www.romances..6&t=19661

http://www.datingnm..mail4.htm




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2009-08-30, 03:54:15
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
tatiana6668@mail.ru

Tatiana Timokhovich (aka Ivanova)


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Dating scammer TATIANA ALEXANDROVNA TIMOKHOVICH



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2009-08-30, 03:55:14
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
tatiana6668@mail.ru

Tatiana Timokhovich (aka Ivanova)

The text on the painting is in German.




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2009-08-30, 06:30:30
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2009-08-30, 09:25:53   (updated: 2009-08-30, 09:29:05)
wanwan from Japan  
Russian Testicles on Gmail !!!!



Hello XXXXX !!!!
XXXXX I worked today and waited time when a smog to receive your
letter. When I have received its that to me it became good. XXXXX and
how you? How your day?
I am glad that you understand me. I with impatience wait every day for
your photos and letters. XXXXX, tell about the friends? At us in Russia
to have the saying, tell who your friend, and I will tell who you. And
at you?
At me it is not a lot of real friends. At me to have the girlfriend
who calls Nastya. We are on friendly terms
with it with the childhood. We together went to school and always
together. It very good friend and always and in all supports me, on
all knows about you. I have told to it about you. It is very glad,
that I have met you. She says, that I have very much changed after a
meeting with you. Says, that I became happier. And mum too speaks so.
XXXXX thanks that you do me happy. Nastya the teacher at school now
works. We with it together studied well English. You understand what I
to write? I hope what yes. Teachers said to me, that I talk better,
than to write. But I hope, that you understand everything about what I
wish to tell.
XXXXX at you to have the best friend? How his name? You have a rest
together? How? You are on friendly terms for a long time?
You can send me a photo you and your friend together? I wish to see
your friend.
I hope, that I will receive your photo with the friend tomorrow.
XXXXX you know, how I named a cat? I have named it BRAVE. Mum very
much was surprised to such name. But I think, that so it is better. By
the way the BRAVE sends you regards. He wakes up every morning and at
once starts to purr.
What dreams you see? I began to see many interesting dreams. I will
not speak, what now. I will tell just they about us with you. I would
would like that they became a reality.
I hope that you will soon write to me. I very much wait for your
letters every day.
Your far girlfriend Anna.




Scammer says ''

how I named a cat? I have named it BRAVE''



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From: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.03) Educational
Reply-To: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
Organization:Internet-Cafe








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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
13.04.48.42 UNITED STATES CONNECTICUT NORWALK 41.1093
-73.4189 06850 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL XEROX CORPORATION XEROX.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 203 (USCT0154) NORWALK





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
92.255.242.49 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL ZAO COMPANY ER-TELECOM YOSHKAR-OLA -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.174 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.174 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.174 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
13.04.48.46 UNITED STATES CONNECTICUT NORWALK 41.1093
-73.4189 06850 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL XEROX CORPORATION XEROX.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 203 (USCT0154) NORWALK





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.218.174 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW


Receiver






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IP Information - 13.04.48.42IP address: 13.04.48.42
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per adrastea.xerox.com.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 33631
ASN Name: PARC-ASN
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): ARIN
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 12.0.0.0 to 13.255.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Norwalk, Connecticut
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 13.04.48.42



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http://www.trusteds...04.48.42

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IP Information - 92.255.242.49IP address: 92.255.242.49
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns-pri.ripe.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 41786
ASN Name: ERTH-YOLA-AS (ZAO 'ER-Telecom' Company' Yoshkar-Ola ISP AS)
IP range connectivity: 3
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 92.255.0.0 to 92.255.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 92.255.242.49


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http://www.romances..p?p=94711

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http://www.romances..p?t=18998

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http://www.trusteds..55.242.49
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http://www.gamekuba..p?bid=935

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http://anti-scam-fo..6473164/3

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2009-08-30, 16:43:06
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Dirk, Thanks for your comments.
2009-08-30, 18:19:09
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
You're welcome. Guess, the info I posted confirms what you already knew. Hope, that it's good enough to convince the good friend in the UK to stop sending money to this scammer.
2009-08-30, 21:46:08   (updated: 2009-08-30, 21:54:36)
OJAS from United States  
@UK http://www.delphifa..=9#133889
=================
Phone number you give to Boris http://www.delphifa..p=6#167810
2009-08-31, 09:30:35
wanwan110+10=135? from Japan  
Anna!!



Hello My American Pee !!!!!
Pee!!! I wish to learn more about your work. It is pleasant to you? At
you it is a lot of colleagues? What do they think of you? I am
assured, that is good, because you very good man. I hope, what you do
not make advances to the colleagues? I am jealous.... I joke.
I love the work. It very much is pleasant to me. I can help people,
and they thank me. For me there is nothing better, than a smile on the
person of the patient. Sometimes I work two days on end, at us it is
called watch. Also it is necessary to spend the night on work. What to
help those to whom it became bad at night.
Pee!! as whom you work? When at you weekend? What do you do in
weekend? I, for example, go to the cinema or with Nastya we go to park
and we walk there. In last weekend we sat on a bench and talked how it
would be good if there were no borders and all people could meet, not
overcoming the big distances, Pee!!! that you discuss with the friends,
when you together?
Yesterday we with mum watched cinema on TV. It is a foreign film and I
think, what you saw it, you looked TITANIC? Such beautiful film. I
even did not cry nearly when looked it. You know, what has made the
BRAVE? It has escaped on street to walk, when has seen that the ship
sinks. You represent?
I am glad to learn about you more every day, we as sportsmen who climb
up mountain. The more we learn, the we become closer. The truth? And
soon we learn one about the friend all and between us there will be no
barriers, and we will rise on the top and we will meet. How to you
such comparison?
Your sincere Anna.





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From: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.03) Educational
Reply-To: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
Organization:Internet-Cafe




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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
15.05.07.51 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA PALO ALTO 37.4404
-122.14 94304 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY HP.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0830) PALO ALTO





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
92.255.242.39 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL ZAO COMPANY ER-TELECOM YOSHKAR-OLA -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.125.78.27 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.125.78.27 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.125.78.27 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
15.05.07.54 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA PALO ALTO 37.4404
-122.14 94304 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY HP.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0830) PALO ALTO





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.125.78.27 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW







Receiver

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IP Information - 15.05.07.51IP address: 15.05.07.51
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per charon.core.hp.com.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 71
ASN Name: HP-INTERNET-AS (Hewlett-Packard Company)
IP range connectivity: 6
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 15.0.0.0 to 15.255.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Palo Alto, California
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 15.05.07.51


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IP Information - 92.255.242.39IP address: 92.255.242.39
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns-pri.ripe.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 41786
ASN Name: ERTH-YOLA-AS (ZAO 'ER-Telecom' Company' Yoshkar-Ola ISP AS)
IP range connectivity: 3
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 92.255.0.0 to 92.255.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 92.255.242.39


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http://www.trusteds..55.242.39

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http://www.projecth..55.242.62

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http://www.romances..6&t=20153
(same IP )

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http://www.romances..6&t=20560

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http://romanceloves..pic=635.0
(Same IP)

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http://romanceloves..pic=635.0
(same IP )

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http://anti-scam.de..237567452
(same IP )




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