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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-11-17, 17:31:22
anonymous from United States  



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2006-11-18, 13:58:04
anonymous from United States  



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2006-11-19, 03:02:45
anonymous from United States  
Natalya Pikusova (natusik-laska2006@rambler.ru also goes by the name Natalya Ageeva (ageevanatalya2006@rambler.ru) I took until the 10th e-mail before she needed the money for the plane tickets. I am shocked it took that long even though our future depended on it. Here is some pictures I was sent


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2006-11-19, 03:09:49
anonymous from United States  
Here are a few more pics I found from Natalya


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2006-11-19, 20:02:27
Scambuster from Canada  
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This is Nadezhda Klenova the real picture. The one posted on may 21, 2005 is not the same one as posted on may 27, 2006.. Well, she wrote to me in Aug thru Sept and got pissed off cuz I wouldnot send her 1000$.
Email: nadyaklen@gmail.com
Her address: Russia, Moscow, Pushkina St. 143-45
Site on: Lavalife Canada and she contacted me first....!!!! Got nothing out of me.

Here is her money letter and some pics...

Hello my dear Johnny! How are you days going on? As for me I have much
work. But I will have vacation in one week. I'm really happy about
that cuz I haven't vacation 3 years. So my boss decide give me some
time to rest. I want spend my vacation very good and I guess that I
can come to visit you for one or two months, of course if you not
against. I think that we can know each over face to face better, and
we can have a great time together. Will you invite me? LoL. I have
foreign passport and visa so I don't needing in any paperwork. So I
can come to you so soon as I will found good flight. But this is not
too hard, cuz our company work with one tourist agency very long time,
and they always can find good flights to any point of the world. Today
I was in that travel agency and check cost of flight to you. It will
cost for me about 1600 US dollars. In this cost including round-trip
tickets and health insurance. In my country I can't buy one way
tickets, cuz in many countries immigration cervices afraid that
somebody could stay in them countries illegal, or something like that.
And about insurance, this is I must have too. I thought that I will go
to my vacation to other country so I saved some money for that. I have
600 US dollars for tickets, but unfortunately I haven't another part
of that sum. I wanna ask you, dear will you able help me with other
part of money. I think that it will be very honest from you and my
side bye tickets for me together. This will be great chance to meet
each over and know better. What do you think about that I know that
1000 US dollars not big sum of money there, so I guess that you will
not against help me with it. Ok, I will write for your letter. Sweet
kisses! Bye, Nadya!



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2006-11-19, 20:04:41
Scambuster from Canada  
another pic of beautiful nadya
and another letter:

Hello my dearest Johnny! How are you? We have cold weather again here.
In Russia we have warm weather until middle if September. But not
every year. In this year we have really strange weather. Winter was
too cold and sometimes too warm, and summer so. I heard that Florida
is really great state there. I will me more then glad to visit it. I
will arrange tickets on the date that will be best for you. Just tell
me the date. But don't forget that I must buy tickets as soon as
possible, because later buy tickets will be very hard. I was in travel
agency today, and they could arrange tickets for me on September. It
would be so great to spend so much time with your there. Oh, I just
forgotten to tell you thanks for pictures. Dear I was in the bank
today and learned safe and fast way to send money. This is Western
Union money transfer system, you can find it practically in any bank.
You must just fill out the blank, there you must write my full name -
Nadezhda Klenova, and country as you know Russia. :) After that you
will get money transfer control number. You must send it to me and
else send your full name and address. As soon as I will get money and
know the date then I must come to you, I will buy tickets. And tell
you all details of my trip to you. Ok, dear I will stop now. Hope to
hear from you soon! Sweet kiss and hugs! Love, Nadya!



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2006-11-19, 20:07:11
Scambuster from Canada  
Can anybody help me on this girl. Herr name is Natalya .Would really appreciate any help on this girl. We are corresponding and does not seem like a scammer. But then....Maybe other eyes can see differently. Thanks.Johnny
My email: leftie1959@yahoo.ca for any help


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2006-11-19, 20:12:01
Scambuster from Canada  
Can anybody also help me on this girl. Herr name is Natalya .Would really appreciate any help on this girl. We are corresponding and does not seem like a scammer. But then....Maybe other eyes can see differently. Thanks.Johnny
My email: leftie1959@yahoo.ca for any help


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2006-11-20, 09:18:10
anonymous from Netherlands  

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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2006-11-20, 09:20:44
anonymous from Netherlands  
is she a scammer to
signed with a different mail
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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2006-11-20, 18:55:08
anonymous from United States  
Any one know this girl?
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Dating scammer Juliya from Kirov, Russia
Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2006-11-21, 16:57:46
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Natalie from Molodezhnyi near Irkutsk has started e-mailing me. So far she hasn't asked for any money, but she is already refering to me as 'hers'. It would be great if she was genuine because 'her' fotos are fantastic. It's just a pity that she is not genuine, but there again, neither am I. Hee hee. I am actually a 55 year old married man whereas 'she' thinks that I am a 26 year old single male. Her real name is probably Vladimere or Boris. So, I am having a bit of fun, taking the 'P' out of the scammers.
2006-11-21, 21:34:23
anonymous from United States  
You are just as bad as she is...what you are doing is wrong.
2006-11-22, 05:48:21
anonymous from United Kingdom  



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2006-11-22, 05:55:22
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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