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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-09-01, 13:09:15
DUCATI from Spain  
PASAPORTE NASTYA
PARA QUE LE MANDE
DINERO 550 EUROS
INCREIBLE
QUE OPINAIS
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2009-09-01, 16:31:08
OJAS from United States  
Hola, DUCATI, Bookmark this link in your Favorires
http://www.delphifa..11#156398

We are trying to make that a bilingual thread. Visitors to that thread can discuss in Spanish, if they are not comfortable with English. When you get the chance, read that full thread.

When you get some time, open the links in http://www.delphifa..34#167880

If you can post them in Spanish in bilingual thread, it will help newbies.
Gracias
Hasta Luego (tambien en bilingual thread! :-)
2009-09-02, 05:14:29   (updated: 2009-09-02, 05:15:34)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
DUCATI,

Nastikya@yahoo.fr

http://www.segurida..stasiya-1


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2009-09-02, 09:22:54
wanwan100+3=209? from Japan  
Anna !! running on the scam road !


Hello My Dear Man Pee !!!!!!!!!
Pee!!! I hope, that you understand all and is not offended on me. At
me such work and I should go to hospital and help people. I hope, that
you are not offended on me for it. I am very tired today. I did not
sleep almost one and a half day. I all night long worked also day too.
And now I in the cafe Internet.
Pee!! when I on work I think of you. I am happy, that have met you,
and I wish more and to learn more you. I wish to be more often with
you. I the first time meet such person as you, and you very much like
me. When I worked at night, I have fallen asleep and had a dream. In
it a dream, I was on seacoast and sunbathed. I laid on a back and
read, what that the novel. And here the shade has closed the sun and I
have turned back. It was you Pee!!. You have told, that such a
skin as at me what not to burn it would be necessary, to use a cream
for sunburn. I have told, that it to have at me. But I cannot put it
on a back, you have told that will help. Pee!!!, at you such good and
soft hands and I enjoyed when you to use a cream for sunburn.
Pee!!! you would help me if I have asked to help you to me? I think
what yes. I have woken up and did not know than have ended, but I
think, that I can see continuation of this dream.
Pee!!! that you to eat today? You know what Russian dishes? You tried
borsh? Pel'meni? Blini?
I am able to prepare very well dishes and I am assured that you liked
if you mg to try them. You would like to try them? I think, that I can
to surprise you with the skill. And what you are able to do well? Tell
to me.
I do not know, I will receive your letter tomorrow or not, but I hope,
that you are not offended and will answer me tomorrow and will send me
the photo. I very much wish to receive more than your photos.
I send you the kisses, and I hope, that they warm your heart, and you
forgive me.
I MISS......
Yours Anna.



See this
And now I in the cafe Internet.

It is a BIG lie !
The internet cafe doesn't need that mass mailer on their computer.
And see this !
''From: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.03) Educational
Reply-To: EvdokimovaAnna <annaevdokimovna@gmail.com>
Organization:Internet-Cafe''
Anna has operated her personal computer mailing system and forged her mail header !!

Scammer ! Testicles on her ! Stinks !




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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
188.186.6.61 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSKVA MOSCOW 55.75
37.583 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL RU-RAID -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.219.210 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.219.210 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.219.210 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
209.85.219.210 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA MOUNTAIN VIEW 37.3956
-122.076 94043 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DIAL GOOGLE INC google.com

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 650 (USCA0746) MOUNTAIN VIEW


Receiver






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IP Information - 188.186.6.61IP address: 188.186.6.61
Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per ns-pri.ripe.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.6.61




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2009-09-02, 09:51:55
DOC from United States  
wanwan, you should be 0014 / You would be twice as smart as 007



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2009-09-02, 10:45:04
wannwan911? from Japan  
@DOC

I am BOND but not 007,,,,,,
see below,this is me.

By the way when you will come to Japan
and you will call an ambulance,
you must call '' 119 '' in Japan.
Do you know this ?
911 in USA but
119 in Japan !
reversed (not joke ,it is true )

mata-ne!


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2009-09-02, 13:44:44
anonymous from Brazil  



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2009-09-02, 13:46:03
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:47:11
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:47:44
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:48:20
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:48:58
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:49:35
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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2009-09-02, 13:50:14
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com
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2009-09-02, 13:51:08
anonymous from Brazil  
Oksana Sokolova
oksanafairy@yahoo.com


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