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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-09-21, 09:16:36
wanwan from Japan  
Stupid Olga,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


Hello my love George.
Forgive, that I very quickly have not answered you.
For technical reasons the Internet of cafe I did not work also could not visit it.
I hope, that you have not lost me.
George I very much missed on you. Yesterday I thought of us and about our joint life much.
In general these ideas very much frequently visit me. They cannot be banished.
I hope, that you understand feelings of the woman, feeling of the in love woman.
Inform me that you think, your ideas of dream?
You see our future together? It is possible, that you think that I very naive, but it not so.
You it is valid my dream, my meaning of the life.
I love you Your bride in Russia Olga.




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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
188.186.2.136 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSKVA MOSCOW 55.75
37.583 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL RU-RAID -

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
81.19.66.33 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MOSKVA MOSCOW 55.75
37.583 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL RAMBLER MAIN NETWORK RAMTEL.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0063) MOSCOW






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IP Information - 188.186.2.136 IP address: 188.186.2.136
Reverse DNS: net2.186.188-136.yoladom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net2.186.188-136.yoladom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: BOGUS
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.2.136


Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net2.186.188-136.yoladom.ru. does not exist]

LOL !



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http://www.trusteds..86.2.136+


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I can not find X-mailer !

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From: olechkaa1981 <olechkaa1981@rambler.ru>
Reply-To: olechkaa1981 <olechkaa1981@rambler.ru>
Organization: olechkaa1981


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http://www.scamwarn..13&t=2701

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http://419-scams.th..m/?p=3024

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My boys ,our lovely(?)Olga has forged her mail header infos,has hidden her X-mailer info,be careful !
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2009-09-21, 12:32:42
anonymous from Canada  
anastasiyafateeva@hotmail.com


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2009-09-21, 12:33:33
anonymous from Canada  
anastasiya fateeva, anastasiyafateeva@yahoo.com


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2009-09-21, 12:34:08
anonymous from Canada  
anastasiya fateeva, anastasiyafateeva@yahoo.com


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2009-09-21, 12:34:45
anonymous from Canada  
anastasiya fateeva, anastasiyafateeva@yahoo.com
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2009-09-21, 12:40:26
anonymous from Canada  
anastasiya fateeva, anastasiyafateeva@yahoo.com


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2009-09-21, 16:36:34
anonymous from Canada  
SUNEMILY@YAHOO.COM is a fake to the person who asked earlier, she sent me THE SAME emails, and THE SAME photos you posted. To the person who posted this, please contact me at akula_61@hotmail.com DO NOT send her money or anything. She told me she doesnt have access to a computer of her own. And can talk to me 'in one week' by phonebooth. Thanks.
2009-09-21, 21:34:39
anonymous from United States  
does anybody have any info on this girl??


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2009-09-22, 12:25:55
DUCATI from Spain  



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2009-09-22, 12:52:53
DUCATI from Spain  
YULIYA


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2009-09-22, 22:10:34
anonymous from United States  
rating
ladyblond1981 = scammer

Wrote me off of Yahoo personals.

Wrote for a couple weeks, 1 email a day, along with 1 picture or two a day.

Then accidentally sent me an email meant for someone else, spitting the same game to him.

Subtle, but fake.


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2009-09-23, 05:17:47
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2009-09-23, 16:27:55
anonymous from Canada  
Richard Kolacht, form Vancouver


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2009-09-23, 16:29:32
anonymous from Canada  
Richard Kolacht.


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2009-09-23, 16:58:03
OJAS from United States  
Canada 2009-09-23, 16:29:32,

I don't understand!
Je ne compris!
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