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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-09-24, 00:15:17
OJAS from United States  
2009-09-24, 03:04:44
[hidden] from Australia  
hi guys,i have just started comunacating with a girl from russia and advise would be appreciated.
she sent me a message on a meeting site that said she was from melbourne,australia but after a couple of e mails she now says shes from Volzhsk.i then googled this and found out its in russia then found this site.
i must say she is rather hot and all her e mails contain a new pic.
at the start the photos do look like a modelling session but now i'm getting normal photos and family ones.
are some russian girls looking to move or is it all a scam.
anyway,here is her pic and some advise would very much be appreciated down here in australia! :-)


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2009-09-24, 05:58:37
CESARE  
aleksasladok@yahoo.fr

Aleksandra Zabolotskih from Cheboksary, Russia.

IP: 188.186.21.20 and 188.186.0.45 and 188.186.26.46 ...... ( each letter a new IP)

She asked money and few days ago I wrote in this site ( money letter + photos) that she is a scammer.
I said that to her. But yesterday she sent me her photo holding my photo in her hands!!!!!
What now????? Is she a scammer????????

Please, help me!

Thanks!

Cesare


LETTER:

Hello my dear Cesare!

I have received your new letter. I was is very sad, that you have written to me.

I was simply in a shock. I very much was upset, that you wish to tell to me, that I not the present woman.

At me very bad states of health after your letter.

You have written the letter as a knife to heart.

As you could about me so badly to think.

I was with you fair and is sincere. You wish to tell to me, that I deceived you. I was glad yesterday to you to call.

I thought, that you the real man. Which will be my husband.

But today having read your letter. You have simply killed me. Your words.

I yesterday after your conversation. Has specially made for you a photo.

That you would understand as strongly I wish to be with you. To show to you, that I the real woman.

And you do not need to worry.

I hope, that you will understand, that I real. Also I wish to be with you.

You simply do not wish to help me. And tell, that it is a pity to you of money for my arrival to you.

You find the reason, what to me not to send. You play with my feelings.

You have sent me the reference. I came on this reference. I understand, that in our life it is a lot of deceit.

But I not such bad woman. To me is very insulting to hear from you such words.

I have entrusted you heart. But you break it.

It is very bad.

I hope, that you can write me the letter.

I will wait your letter.

Aleksandra.




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2009-09-24, 06:38:23
OJAS from United States  
[hidden] 2009-09-24, 03:04:44 Oz mate,
If ''her'' profile said Melbourne, and email Volzhk, IT IS A SCAM !! A real girl with genuine intentions has NO reasons to lie about her location.
http://dailymail.co..le-542276
http://smh.com.au/a..63038.html
2009-09-24, 08:35:55
DOC from United States  
CESARE, Looks as if your scammer knows how to use photoshop.
aleksasladok@yahoo.fr (fr = France)

IP Information - 188.186.0.45

IP address: 188.186.0.45
Reverse DNS: [Timeout]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No

WHOIS - 188.186.0.45 http://www.dnsstuff..8.186.0.45
2009-09-24, 11:05:18
OJAS from United States  
Cesare, Asking money from strangers is a scam http://ladies-russi../Scam.php
http://69.64.63.154..=62#145733
2009-09-24, 15:30:15
OJAS from United States  
Cesare,
1) Did you send her a photo bigger than her face?
2) Looks like someone is holding your photo in front of her photo, casting its shadow above her photo's right shoulder
3) The pic seems altered at the tip of her third finger
4) http://www.delphifa..p=8#99938

Ciao, bene!
2009-09-24, 20:02:11   (updated: 2009-09-24, 20:08:50)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Cesare,

% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net..tions.pdf

% Information related to '188.186.0.0 - 188.186.31.255'

inetnum: 188.186.0.0 - 188.186.31.255
netname: ERTH-YOLA-PPPOE-1-NET
descr: CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Yoshkar-Ola
descr: Yoshkar-Ola, Russia
country: RU
admin-c: ETHD12-RIPE
tech-c: ETHD12-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: RAID-MNT
changed: ****@ertelecom.ru 20090825
notify: ****@ertelecom.ru
source: RIPE

role: Network Operation Center CJSC ER-Telecom Company Mari El branch
address: 12, Lenina st., 424000, Yoshkar-Ola, Russia
phone: +7 8362 210035
fax-no: +7 8362 210035
e-mail: ***@yola.ertelecom.ru
admin-c: SMS68-RIPE
tech-c: ALB49-RIPE
tech-c: AVA89-RIPE
nic-hdl: ETHD12-RIPE
changed: ***@ertelecom.ru 20070123
notify: ***@ertelecom.ru
source: RIPE
mnt-by: MNT-ERTHOLDING

% Information related to '188.186.0.0/19AS41786'

route: 188.186.0.0/19
descr: CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom'
descr: Yoshkar-Ola, Russia
origin: AS41786
mnt-by: RAID-MNT
changed: ****@ertelecom.ru 20090720
notify: ****@ertelecom.ru
source: RIPE

% Information related to '188.186.0.0/20AS41786'

route: 188.186.0.0/20
descr: CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom'
descr: Yoshkar-Ola, Russia
origin: AS41786
mnt-by: RAID-MNT
changed: ****@ertelecom.ru 20090720
notify: ****@ertelecom.ru
source: RIPE

% Information related to '188.186.0.0/22AS41786'

route: 188.186.0.0/22
descr: CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Yoshkar-Ola
descr: Yoshkar-Ola, Russia
origin: AS41786
mnt-by: RAID-MNT
changed: ****@ertelecom.ru 20090904
notify: ****@ertelecom.ru
source: RIPE


OJAS,

The girl doesn't hold that pic. How can somebody hold a pic with her left hand without using the thumb? Looks like a girl's hand holding it in place under a scanner. Stupid mistake!


2009-09-25, 07:36:59
CESARE  
Thanks OJAS! You are right! Very smart!
'The girl doesn't hold that pic. How can somebody hold a pic with her left hand without using the thumb? Looks like a girl's hand holding it in place under a scanner. Stupid mistake!'

Thanks Dirk and Doc!

Now I am sure that she is a stupid scammer!

Ciao!



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2009-09-25, 07:55:59
CESARE  
The hands looks like similar in the 3 photos. Or not??????????

But the scammer was stupid when didn't use the thumb.





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2009-09-25, 08:21:26
CESARE  
Aleksandra's Hands


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2009-09-25, 09:40:08   (updated: 2009-09-25, 10:33:44)
OJAS from United States  
Grazie, CESARE! :-)

Also see http://www.delphifa..5542.shtml
2009-09-25, 11:23:54
wanwan from Japan  
http://www.anti-sca..3990.html


Yuliya Kuzminykh
# E-mail: juliababy123@gmail.com
# Address: Russia , Cheboksary
# Phone: +78312370774
# Seen at: www.cupidovirtual.com




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2009-09-25, 18:34:40
anonymous from Canada  
Recieved messages from her i think she is scammer


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2009-09-25, 19:20:30
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Wanwan,

Phonenumber +78312370774


http://www.delphifa..tml?p=257

http://www.delphifa..tml?p=282

http://www.internet..hp?n=5768

http://www.stop-sca..p?id=3059

OJSC VolgaTelecom
Vasiliy Golovin
Sovetskaya 138
424000 Yoshkar-Ola
RUSSIAN FEDERATION

phone: +78312370774
fax-no: +78312375182


http://www.ripe.net..mari.html

Identity fraud on matchmaking services

In: Vergunka (Russia)
Accra (Ghana)
Lugansk (Ukraine)
Ile Ife (Nigeria)
Dnepropetrovsk (Ukraine)
Antratsit (Ukraine)
Yoshkar-Ola (Russia)

Known first name: Nabal
Known last name: Salifu
Last reported age: 27
Operates with names too: Nina Kalinina, Jennifer Shobowale, Anna Sobolevskaya, Nina Sevlyakova, Nina Sevlakova, Veronica Petrova
Postal address(es): 10th Kanda Hy St., Accra, Ghana, 30023 10th kanda high ways St., Accra, Ghana, 00233 Ukraine, 94600, Antratsyt, Polyakova str., 28/80 Ukraine, Lugansk region, Vergunka, Kurchenko str., 13
Fake phone: +2348073249200 011233245001008 380-932899215 +38093 2899234 +78312370774
Email address: kalina445@rambler.ru kalya@megamail.uk.co step2nabal@gmail.com kalina445@rambler.ru kalyna@megamail.uk.co princess2queenjen@yahoo.com princess2queenjen@hotmail.com nabalstep2@hotmail.com kalinka52@yahoo.com kalinanina@gmail.com kalinka77@gmail.com hkalina5@mail.com kalina2000@lavabit.com kalinich5@yandex.ru lovely-bonita@rambler.ru litolfud@bk.ru dtc_trans@ua.fm


http://www.datingsc..fraud.htm

http://www.romances..hp?t=8724

http://anti-scam.de..2346083/8

http://www.russian-..SID=98...

http://www.romances..&start=30

http://croque-escro..t520.html

http://anti-scam.de..1704291/1

First name: veronica
Second name: petrova
Age: 30
Country: Russia
City: Yoshkar-ola
Address: Sovetskaya 138
Phone: +78312370774
E-mail: litolfud@bk.ru


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