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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-09-28, 10:24:07
wanwan from Japan  
Email Header Analysis
Sender IP Address: 68.46.143.183
Host Addres: c-68-46-143-183.hsd1.pa.comcast.net

Additional IP Information About Email Sender
IP Address Country: United States
IP Address City Location: Vineland
IP Address Region: New Jersey
IP Address Latitude: 39.476,
IP Address Longtitude: -74.9883
Organization: Comcast Cable


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From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
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2009-09-28, 10:42:21
wanwan from Japan  
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From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>


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She tried scamming me.She started saying '' Travel agency ''

Hello my lovely George!!!
I feel that with everyone the letter all of us is closer and closer and that our relations stand
already on a rather high step of development. Dear you submit my heart and now I want to cry to the
all world that I LOVE YOU!!!!!!! Dear you are for me the dearest man in this world and I hope that
our relations come true soon, that we'll be together forever. Dear you my prince on a white horse
and only for you is open my heart dear my heart already with you, and only my reason and body waits
for our meeting. My love I think you will not be against if I tomorrow to go to travel agency and I
find out about cost of arrival in your country. Inform me please the nearest airport in your
country. For me the real meeting, is unforgettable day which I shall not overlook never. also I
shall require your full name and the address that I shall inform travel agency to whom to arrive.

Your Svetlana!!!



Dear you my prince on a white horse

LOL !! I am a PRINCE on a white horse? or at WHITE HOUSE ?



I tomorrow to go to travel agency

It is a Russian Scam sign !



Inform me please the nearest airport in your country.




also I shall require your full name and the address
that I shall inform travel agency to whom to arrive.

Never tell her those infos !


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Sender IP Address: 72.181.134.188
Host Addres: cpe-72-181-134-188.tx.res.rr.com

Additional IP Information About Email Sender
IP Address Country: United States
IP Address City Location: Plano
IP Address Region: Texas
IP Address Latitude: 33.0347,
IP Address Longtitude: -96.8134
Organization: Road Runner



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2009-09-28, 11:02:52
wanwan from Japan  
From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>



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Oh!! My George !!!!Remember that I love you and there is a girl which misses and
dreams to meet somewhat quicker. As it is not pleasant for me to speak on this theme, but our
meeting depends only on you. I hope we shall not hesitate also you can find the decision the help to
me with money. I shall miss and hope on a prompt reply. With love the loving princess Svetlana!!!

Her father was a KING in Russia? Because Sveta is a princess,,,,,,.


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Email Header Analysis
Sender IP Address: 98.209.134.198
Host Addres: c-98-209-134-198.hsd1.mi.comcast.net

Additional IP Information About Email Sender
IP Address Country: United States
IP Address City Location: Monroe
IP Address Region: Michigan
IP Address Latitude: 41.9115,
IP Address Longtitude: -83.4652
Organization: Comcast Cable

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2009-09-28, 11:13:58
wanwan from Japan  

Hello my love George!!!
Dear George!, many thanks for your letter, I was happy, to receive him. I am very happy, to write to
you again my loved. For me huge happiness to hear, that you too very much want our meeting. I very
much want, that we were together George!. And I shall be in the seventh sky with happiness if our
meeting will take place at you in the country. It will be valid for me a wonderful gift. I want to
meet you, my fine George. It will be the finest day in my life. I talked to mum about us with you my
lovely George. We talked for a long time, and my mum have perfectly understood. My mum there is
nothing I shall arrive to you my fine George. My dear George, I could not wait for a long time, and went
to agency, and all have found out concerning our meeting. In agency to me have told, that to be
necessary for me 1350 US dollars. All this costs a package deal. I have been very much upset, when
to me have told such price. My fine George, I do not know, that to me make, I did not think, that it
will be so much costs. I do not have such big sum. I have some money at a rate of 550 dollars, but
this sum will be insufficiently. I need in 800 US dollars. I very much want to meet you. Dear, I
understand, that you not the rich person, but I any more do not know, whom to me to ask the help. It
is not convenient for me to ask you, but you can to me the help with money to arrive to you, mine
dear George?
I very much want to arrive to you my lovely George. It is the big happiness for me will meet at you.
Certainly, I would like, that you to show me your country. I would like to see how to live your
people and in general everything, as to think, that there a lot of interesting. My darling George, I
wanted to tell to you, that I very much love you. And I to think, that at us all will be excellent,
if we shall be together. I if only wanted, that between us there was a full understanding each other
as we relations for me have very much great value. I shall think of you and with the big impatience
to wait your letter. With love and forever, your princess Svetlana!!!



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Sender IP Address: 68.204.211.3
Host Addres: 3.211.204.68.cfl.res.rr.com

Additional IP Information About Email Sender
IP Address Country: United States
IP Address City Location: Kissimmee
IP Address Region: Florida
IP Address Latitude: 28.2423,
IP Address Longtitude: -81.4456
Organization: Road Runner


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From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
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2009-09-28, 11:19:17
OJAS from United States  
@Newbies, (for helping with future searches)
Whoever with good eye sight, add a comment about eye color in the photos.
http://scienceray.c..ye-colors
http://en.wikipedia../Eye_color
2009-09-28, 11:23:12
wanwan from Japan  
From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>


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Thanks for so prompt reply, I am happy to receive your letter. My dear I have read your letter and
was happy that you have an opportunity the help to me. Only I have been surprised, why you want to
send me of $3.000,00??? I necessarily enter contact to the tourist agent and I find out URL and
e-mail address travel agency's which immediately to inform you. But I think that I to be necessary
to know your full name and the address. If you have money when can send? I can speak itself with the
agent what arrive by the plane first class. I can not to believe in this news, that soon we shall
together. I love you and I wish successful day. With love your princess Svetlana!!!



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Sender IP Address: 76.177.29.168
Host Addres: cpe-76-177-29-168.natcky.res.rr.com

Additional IP Information About Email Sender
IP Address Country: United States
IP Address City Location: Richmond
IP Address Region: Kentucky
IP Address Latitude: 37.7666,
IP Address Longtitude: -84.3031
Organization: Road Runner

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2009-09-28, 12:23:01
DUCATI from Spain  

FARIDA
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2009-09-28, 19:22:01
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Ducati,

Am not sure. Could the text in the background be in Hebrew?
2009-09-28, 20:35:37
OJAS from United States  
Dirk & DUCATI,
Looks Cyrillic


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2009-09-29, 03:45:02
[hidden] from Australia  
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I have recently had a series of emails from a Russian girl using the email address roxsiana@gmx.com. She calls herself Liza. After several emails she talks of coming to visit me. Two emails later she finds she is short on money for the airfare, and asks for my help.

I believe it to be a scam, but I am not sure. Here is a copy of an early email from her.

How - you today? I understand you. I hope, that all - is good. I also
am happy today because I have the letter from you. I have written to
me! I very happy. Now I work, and I write the letter to you. Last time
I have not had time to add to you the letter. I hope this time to me
will not prevent to make it. And so. I did not write to you about my
family. But I think that you should know about it, and now I am going
to make it. I have been given birth also dews to Selivaniha. Now I
live here. I do not make remember my father because he did not live
with us. I was grown only by my mother. We were the best friends on
the ground, we were very much the friend close to the friend. But my
mum had a cancer of a stomach, and she has died in 2002. Year was
horrable for me. I, though I was the unique person on the whole
planet. It was awful and incredible. I could not understand it for
long time. I was empty. It is difficult to imafine for ideas in my
head and my feelings. Even now I remember my mum very much frequently.
You know, that I had very happy childhood. My mum and I went in park
together. We play together various games. We spoke much. Only than,
several years I started to understand last, that she felt qulity
because I had no father with me. But I have received news from other
people, that it was no mistake of my mother. My father (I cannot name
his 'daddy') never loved my mum. Me has left her lonely when he has
learned , that my mum was the pregnant woman. It was very difficult
for her to bring up me, to feec me to buy me of a dress for this
reason I do not carry bosh the brother, the sister. We lived only her
tiny earnings. But we never complained of our life - we have solved
all problems together. But if we were happy, that we tried to tell
about our success to our neighbours. My mum always spoke me, that I
should marry the person which I shall love. She adviced I to besure in
the person before movement to marry him. I think the same. I shall
remember the moment during long time. I shall never forget mine eyes
of mother when my leg has been broken also I couldn ' t, go. Then we
were far from our house up to, collects berries. Only my mum and I.
But she has taken me on her hands and bore mine to our house. You can
imagine it? To me there were 12 years when my mum was carry of me
duringan hour. I have understood, that it was difficult to her, but
she did not want to leave me alone in a wood to go in the house, to
ask whom - that the help. She was afraid, that something awful happen
with me in a wood. I hope which you understand, that memory of my mum
road for me. After death of my mum I feel very much lonly because I
have no neither sisters, nor brothers. To be more exact, I have no any
relatives in Dave. But I have girlfriends. They Christina and Masha.
They are remarkable girls. We can name us sisters because we are
friends more than 15 years, and we help each other. I - confident
absolotely, that if I ask Christina, Masha to help me they will never
refuse. Our attitudes are very strong, Time has checked up them. One
year ago Christina married, and her husband has taken her to his
native city. We write letters each other very much frequently, but it
is a pity, that we cannot see the most part the friend from the
friend. But Christina has arrived to us in the spring. I taljed very
much (the whole week), but it was too little, we could not tell each
other all events. Now Masha and I wait for Christina the following
arrival . And you, make you hawer such friends? Also In the summer for
entertainment I work in my small garden. I raise flowers. But as a
hobby it certainly flowers. Roses, orchids, tulips, an aster and it is
a lot of others. But main the place in a garden has my favourite
flowers, has raised also an orchid. The hope you can sometime see it.
It is a pity, I can write more. I hope, that you will answer my
letter. I also hope, that you are interested in our connection. I
shall tell to you more about my life in my ambassador of letters. I
think, that you are tolerant (smile).

PS. Dear my Dave, in general I to search second half. I to search for
long-term attitudes, a marriage. I to live in Region of Krasnoyarsk,
Selivaniha.

Sincerely yours Liza.

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2009-09-29, 05:53:56   (updated: 2009-09-29, 05:58:15)
anonymous from Portugal  
You are not sure?!

What kind of normal woman falls in love so fast and asks for money almost as fast?

Don't be naive. Of course it's a scammer. Tell her you'll buy a ticket yourself and will send it to her. Let's see what she / he will answer.

PS - Those scammers always have a girl friend that makes part of the plot. You'll see...
2009-09-29, 07:09:34
[hidden] from Australia  
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Yea OK. I know I am hoping against hope. I am about as convinced as you that it is a scam. I appreciate your feedback, but I was just hoping that someone would confirm for a certainty that this one is a scam.
2009-09-29, 08:53:17
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-09-29, 07:09:34
aukuX@XXXXXXXXXXXX.com.au from Australia

Hi,I have read your message.
Listen to me carefully,OK?
1)Please open her(?) mail header.
2)See her mail header infos.
3)Try to find X-mailer in her mail header
4)When you find '' The Bat xxxxxxx '',it is 99,99999999999999999% Russian Scammers.

Or try to look up her sender IP address.
Open her mail header
then copy & paste the one ,
finally put it on this IP tracer tool,
here is
'' http://www.find-ip-..il_headers ''
It is very easy for you to trace her real sender IP address.
If she tries to hide her IP infos,she is a Russian Scammer.


And if difficult,try to put her mail header infos on here.
We will try to trace her IP address.
When you put her mail header infos on here,
please edit your personal infos out,OK?


by the way,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
if she is a Russian scam,you can play with her(?).
So please play innocent,OK?
You will say '' I love you so much & I can support you to visit OZ ''
When she asks for your money ,you can send a fake money transfer receipt to her.
She will ask for your money via Western Union.
We have many fake ones.
So please ask us !
And you try to waste her time to scam others.
Try to get her passport ,visa copy !
When you get those stuff,please put those on Delphi.
It will go into the detective database in police.


PS
You must remove your e-mail address ,OK?
Because many spammers & scammers are watching this site,
and try emailing you with ZIP files,it is trojans.
It will spy your personal data.
So when you receive unknown mails ,never click those zip files,OK?

please email the site admin,here

Admin: ptiemann_2000@yahoo.com
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
1)2009-09-29, 03:45:02
aukus@yahoo.com.au from Australia

2)2009-09-29, 07:09:34
aukus@yahoo.com.au from Australia

page 348


It is OK?
Then please come back here,at that time give me your alias like Mel Gibson?


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2009-09-30, 05:41:11
anonymous from Taiwan  
Hello Jack!!!!!

I am happy to hear from you again!!!

was afraid that you would not write to me, I really want to continue our relations!

Now I will tell you a little about my family.

I live with my mom and sister. My mother name is Nina.

It is already quite old to her 73 years. Also, I have a kindred sister of Inna,

it was older than me for 4 years. We have a very nice and friendly family!

We always help each other in difficult moments. His father, I do not know,

it threw us when I was little ... And my mom brought up us with one sister.

My friend Jack, tell me about your family, I am very interested to know!

I will wait your letter!



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2009-09-30, 05:42:36
anonymous from Taiwan  
She claimed as OLYA


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