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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-10-01, 02:38:23   (updated: 2009-10-01, 02:52:07)
wanwan from Japan  
@Donald in OZ

Hi my friend Donald !!
I appreciate your good job & your many contributions on Delphi.
Special thanks to you !!!!
I hope you had a good time in OZ.

I have tried to find our X-mailer in her mail header but I could not find that.Yes you are right.
I know the reason.She has forged mail header.It is very easy for scammers to forge mail header.
Scam busters see mail header and can find X-mailer.And scammers know the fact that busters try finding X-mailer.So scammers have forged mail header & have masked X-mailer.
But it is a scam sign.Because an innocent Russian girl never masks X-mailer.

By the way please see this result.Here is a sender IP address,





Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
76.17.21.160 UNITED STATES GEORGIA ATLANTA 33.809
-84.3548 30301 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS INC COMCAST.NET

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 404/678/770 (USGA0168) DECATUR





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
76.17.21.160 UNITED STATES GEORGIA ATLANTA 33.809
-84.3548 30301 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL COMCAST CABLE COMMUNICATIONS INC COMCAST.NET

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 404/678/770 (USGA0168) DECATUR





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.208.5.67 UNITED STATES KANSAS OVERLAND PARK 38.982
-94.671 66062 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL 1&1 INTERNET INC 1AND1.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 913 (USKS0637) SHAWNEE MISSION





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.208.5.67 UNITED STATES KANSAS OVERLAND PARK 38.982
-94.671 66062 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL 1&1 INTERNET INC 1AND1.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 913 (USKS0637) SHAWNEE MISSION





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
74.208.5.67 UNITED STATES KANSAS OVERLAND PARK 38.982
-94.671 66062 -05:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL 1&1 INTERNET INC 1AND1.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 913 (USKS0637) SHAWNEE MISSION





IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
67.195.13.217 UNITED STATES CALIFORNIA SUNNYVALE 37.3779
-122.027 94089 -07:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL YAHOO! INC YAHOO.COM

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 408/650 (USCA1116) SUNNYVALE







Receiver




Obviously your LIZA has hidden herself from you.She is not an innocent Russian girl.
She is a Russian scammer,I guess so.


And please listen to OJAS.
He has so many knowledge of scam,criminals.
He has many ideas how to tease scammers.
When you tease her,please ask OJAS.
He will give you so many funny ideas.


Off course we never remit her 1$ !!
We will send her only '' Fake money transfer receipt ''.
Plus test Q & A only ! LOL !

Donald,when you email her and keep playing with her,
you can waste her private time .
For scammers ,time is money .
So when you waste her time,you can give her a damage.

I know you are busy .
Thanks and see you soon !

PS
Please see that URL on which our David in USA has put .
It is very helpful to you to make a fake money transfer receipt.
We will support you !
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2009-10-01, 03:00:19
wanwan from Japan  
@David

Hi David !
I can watch that URL on which you have put for us.
Special thanks to you.
It is very helpful to us.

mata-ne !
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2009-10-01, 04:06:03
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:39:10
OJAS from United States  
@Newbies
Scammers usually don't read mails until the money letter http://www.delphifa..=13#39806
They send about 300 love letters everyday http://datingnmore...erate.htm
Asking money from strangers is a scam http://ladies-russi../Scam.php
http://www.delphifa../21930.jpg
2009-10-01, 08:40:41
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:44:59
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:47:00
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:51:29
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:52:18
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:55:11
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 08:59:33
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 09:01:13
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 09:14:42
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 09:16:19
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-01, 09:28:18
anonymous from France  
rating
Wanwan, thank you for the clarification on the Bat xxx contented in the header. Here is an example:
X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 5
X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 6
X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 7
X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 8
X-Symantec-TimeoutProtection: 9
Return-Path: <diana.lutikova@rambler.ru>
Received: from mailc.rambler.ru (81.19.66.27) by mail.libertysurf.net (8.0.015)
id 4A12B55506E8E585 for xxxxxx@aliceadsl.fr; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:36:29 +0200
Received: from [192.168.1.14] (unknown [196.218.254.133])
    (Authenticated sender: diana.lutikova@rambler.ru)
    by mailc.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028CD621C12
    for <xxxxxxxx@aliceadsl.fr>; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:35:27 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:35:24 +0400
From: diana.lutikova@rambler.ru
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.24) UNREG
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <1966905662.20090604223524@rambler.ru>
To: 'xxxxxx' <xxxxxxxx@aliceadsl.fr>
Subject: Re: My darling Diana
In-Reply-T& lt;DF248FFE7BAC4764865E0D338D0E2787@xxxxxxx>
References:es: <BDA7BA6C34E14805A402CF0D290D96B4@ xxxxxxx> <482277477.20090526000022@rambler.ru> <8DE63A938FD94E15BDD82208B953E259@ xxxxxxx> <462435289.20090526214456@rambler.ru> <51465CF36FC24BFABD887FF086A92E76@ xxxxxxx>.<355390758.20090529125440@rambler.ru> <CF5F822E4A1644E6AE788FA3D47DE146@xxxxxx> <182981896.20090530234512@rambler.ru> <C4A29909F0774ECFB7FADFFDF576106A@xxxxxx> <329740979.20090601132101@rambler.ru> <7F6B99F5418E4F5399F95C869CA9E7EE@

And this is proved right


I am Diana, Diana Lutikova. I am from Volgograd. I saw your personal data and I want to speak with you. I am in search of true love! I want tender and strong feelings. I so much want to be happy with the only man in this life that I start seeking at the internet. If you are looking the same, please, write to my mailbox diana.lutikova@rambler.ru . It is not comfortable for me to communicate via the site. I will be very glad to see your e-mail because I like you. I wish you a good luck and do not forget to write me a letter. I will be waiting for it. Bye bye

I am so glad that you shared with me my feelings! In my soul and my heart is the love of the most beautiful feeling in the world! I told you what was in my soul! Tell you about the most intimate desires, my emotions! I always think about you!
Dear, I am confident that we shall be with you together! We have another very warm feeling, I say this sincerely! You know, I believe it is time to know each other better! We need to meet in real life! You just imagine how it would be well to look into each other's eyes, take each other's hands, to go along for the most romantic places of your city ... While I am absolutely confident that we with you will not have values that surrounds us. The main thing is that we will be together!
Honey, I can not invite you in Russia, to my guests, because I live in a hostel, I told you. We always want it to be with you in private. And in those circumstances in which I live, it is not possible. The more so because you are a man, so I must follow you ... After all, if we with you have serious relationship since we met, I have to leave Russia and go to you. I want to get acquainted with your family and loved ones, I want to immerse yourself fully into your life, to share with you experiences and emotions! I want to breathe the same air with you! Air your country! Country in which you live ...
I do not hold in Russia. I have no home, there is only beautiful, but the sad memories of them. Of course there are friends, but I need more! I want to love and be loved! I find this man! This is you! It now remains only one step towards the implementation of my innermost dreams. Now is the best time for our meeting! I can take time off on both my work, without prejudice to them! This is destiny! Because you must understand that it is very difficult to leave at the same time! Someone is there, in heaven wants us to meet! And meet it now! You see, this is fate! I have no words to describe what I feel now!
So if you want to meet me and to some time together, tell me about it. Because I gave you my heart and now I want my body be with you. And now I would like to become a bird with wings behind the back, that time away from land and to fly in the air full of love! Towards my dream and my happiness!
I look forward to your reply ...
Your guardian angel Diana

I am so glad that my love for thee mutual! I'm happy! Happy fact that on this planet there you! The man who first applied to me seriously! I feel that you is serious to me! My love for you knows no bounds! This is great! Well, now what do I have to strive for is that the main goal in life to which I must go! Go, no matter what! I should just listen to my heart and feelings, and they tell me that going in the right direction! I gave my heart and soul of the man who can make me happy!
You're cute, educated, gentle, caring and, above all, loving! Finally, we meet with you! I will get acquainted with your friends, see how you live! I told you that I do not want to meet first in Russia, it is difficult for me and I think that I must to come to you....
You know, I have never been abroad, so I'm a little nervous. Because the documents I needed to leave the country. There are many formalities that must be taken into account. Honey, that all do as soon as possible, I turn to a tourist agency. Qualified experts will help me in the whole deal and get it right!
My emotions overwhelmed! I do not even know that I may need ... Which airport is close to you? And at what time do you want me to invite?
Dear, I hope that you respond to me as soon as possible, because I very much worry .... I have finally been able to meet the beloved and loving man ...
Diana

When I told her (or him) it was me who came to see her and it was no question that comes to me I have not more receive news from her! I still have 42 pictures of her!




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