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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-10-14, 09:38:56
wanwan from Japan  
Sveta and her stupid travel agency,,,,,,,,,


I sent her a '' FAKE '' money transfer receipt.
Then she emailed me back.
Here is

Hello my sweet XX!!! I am happy also mood superb after reception of your letters. To me it is sad
that has passed a lot of time, but our meeting still has not taken place. I have been surprised that
you have sent money, but unfortunately I had complexities with viewing this receipt. You can make a
large format and send me? If it is not possible, write all necessary information in the letter. I
wanted to ask you, for what name you have sent money? I strongly love you and I shall wait for a
prompt reply. With love your princess Svetlana!!!



LOL !

I have been surprised that
you have sent money


I am very very surprised to read her words,,,,,,LOL !





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2009-10-14, 10:39:28
wanwan from Japan  
From: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.01)
Reply-To: Svetlana <svetlanalonely@yahoo.com>



Yesterday I sent her a fake money transfer receipt,
today I do,
then tomorrow I will do,,,,,,
I play with you forever.


My love I could not overlook the data which you have sent. Please inform me in the letter the
necessary data, also the sum and for what name you have sent money? I love you and I want to be with
you. I do not understand why it is necessary to show these travel given to the agent if you refuse
to cooperate with them. I to worry all that you speak it the truth. I ask you only do not play with
me. You which man I like and I do not want to be deceived once again.



Please see

I ask you only do not play with
me. You which man I like and I do not want to be deceived once again.

LOL !



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66.212.155.139 UNITED STATES PENNSYLVANIA TRANSFER 41.3268
-80.4209 16154 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
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IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
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2009-10-14, 11:31:14   (updated: 2009-10-14, 11:34:14)
OJAS from United States  
From: Olga . . . ElizavetaValerija@yahoo.com
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200

Sender IP: 82.127.58.180 FRANCE, ILE-DE-FRANCE, PARIS . . . ISP: IP2000-ADSL-BAS . . . Domain: ABO.WANADOO.FR
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http://trustedsourc..27.58.180
http://dnsstuff.com..27.58.180
http://dnsstuff.com..27.58.180
http://projecthoney..27.58.180
http://ip-adress.co..27.58.180
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To: ZojaKsenija@yahoo.com
Subject: Julia 23y.o, new message for you.

am Julia, 23 y.o,Polina
I am looking for man to have a strong family.Larisa
Please let me know if you are ready :)))Anzhela
I am on-line now,Margarita
my profile is here:Veronika

http://julia-sp.com.ua

To unsubscribe -click link and enter e-mail address.
================================
@Newbies
1) This is an unsolicited mail
2) Ukrainian domain .ua sending mail from France
3) I have NO email address ZojaKsenija@yahoo.com It is just a group name created for this Spam. They must have hundred(s) in this mailing list
4) Too many inconsistencies with names
5) DO NOT click on ANYTHING in suspicious mails. it is a nice try for phishing, when they offer to unsubscribe me
6) If you are curious and clicked to unsubscribe, enter the email address of any male scammer from this site
7) Direct unsolicited dating mails from ''girls'' to male scammers; If you get unsolicited dating mails from men, or Lottery winnings, you can satisfy your curiosity by giving them an email addresses of a currently active Boris.
8) Think how scammers can waste each others time, so they can spare your time.


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2009-10-14, 12:12:19
David from United States  
wanwan........

I though you and Jacques from France from like a special picture of Svetlana.


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2009-10-14, 14:55:04   (updated: 2009-10-14, 14:58:15)
Floyd from United States  
@Wanwan

your new svetlana is quite the girlfriend, wanwan. I do liike her more before the nose job. How is your life huntung the beautiful scammers? I have some new girlfriends on the hook but have not enough info as yet. Here are some nice kitty's to add to your collection

cheeers


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2009-10-14, 15:00:12
David from United States  
Floyd from United States

Yes, she was beautiful before the nose job. Just messing around with a new program my wife got me for my birthday. Having fun with it, Made a funny one of her (big mistake). Anyway hope you have fun with the scammers. I am.
2009-10-14, 15:41:14   (updated: 2009-10-14, 15:42:25)
wanwan from Japan  
@David & your wife !

Special thanks to you,David !
I laughed my head off to see the NEW Sveta !
But I don't know our Jacques falls into love with her?
I hope so !!
These days I enjoy doing photoshop !!
But I did not know the Face Filter Studio 2 !!
It is an important info to me.
Again thanks.
And I hope your wife is getting better !!
Regards to your wife & family !

mata-ne ,David !


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2009-10-14, 15:57:46
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-10-14, 14:55:04 (updated: 2009-10-14, 14:58:15)
Floyd from United

Hi my Floyd !!
Special thanks to you.
It is a wonderful photo !
I live with an English beagle & cats in Japan !
Cats are my life !
I downloaded your photo,thanks !

By the way I am happy because you have got scammers.
Please play with them and waste their time.
I also have got several Russian scammers.
Now we stand the money payment stage.
You know I am making up so funny stories.
And they have eaten my funny stories,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.
Later I will report it to you on here.

To tell the truth,
I reported it to Delphi,but she(he) was watching me on here.
She found that reports and she got angry with me !
She said '' Hey wan wan ! I know you.You are liar.Never write to me ! ''
LOL !!
So after scamming scammers,I will report it to you on Delphi !
Keep up your excellent job ,my friend Floyd !

Mata-ne !




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2009-10-14, 16:06:43   (updated: 2009-10-14, 16:11:02)
wanwan from Japan  
@David & Floyd

I give you this photo.
I have found him on web !
Off course it has not any political meaning.
It is only my JOKE !?
Thank you !


PS
David
Please do your '' Face filter studio 2 '' to him,right ?
I want to know the effect of that tool .
Thank you again !
Have a good day !
2009-10-14, 16:25:14
Miss Marple from Sweden  
Hi WANWAN and DAVID

MOOOOORE PICTURES PLEASE!!!!! (LOL)

IM LAUGHING SO I ALMOST CRY....

IMAGINE WITH THOSE PICTURES THEIRE BUISNESS WILL SLOW DOWN FAST..HAHAHAH


REGARDS //MISS MARPLE//
2009-10-14, 16:41:55
wanwan from Japan  
@Miss Marple from Sweden

Hi,my Miss Marple !!
How is your day ?
I hope you had a good time there in Sweden !!!!!
You know magnus & me are football crazy,,,,,,,,,.
And we enjoy FIFA W CUP 2010 in S/Africa !
I hope we had a official match Japan vs Sweden in FIFA W CUP 2010 in S/Africa.
Do you want to see that match ?
Today I give you this photo !

mata-ne(see you again in japanese )


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2009-10-14, 18:10:40
Miss Marple from Sweden  
@ WANWAN in JAPAN


IM BETTER THANKS TO YOU AND OTHER CONTRIBUTORS HERE AT DELPHI

I ALMOST GOT TEARS IN MY EYES NOW

THANK YOU SO MUCH WANWAN..!!!!

I WILL STAY I PROMISSE!!!!

SO LONG THERE IS SCAMMERS SO LONG I WILL REMAIN ALSO..

AND MY WORK HAS JUST BEGUN..!

AND IF THAT FOOTBALL MATCH WILL BE ..I COME!!!!

VÄNLIGA HÄLSNINGAR FRÅN SVERIGE

MATA-NE //MISS MARPLE//




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2009-10-14, 23:34:10   (updated: 2009-10-14, 23:36:59)
David from United States  
wanwan and Miss Marple from Sweden

Face Filter Studio 2 is a program you can buy off the net. The company also puts out a cople of other cool programs but they're a little more expensive and time consuming. I just wanted some quick and easy to use. Anyway, I know of Photoshop which is a good program. I have PhotoImpact which does my good. Anyway, a couple of more pictures for you. I am working with a new scammer who doesn't write like the others. And wanwan, I copied the rose picture and with edit it for my wife.


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2009-10-15, 14:11:54
wanwan from Japan  
@David & your wife

Thanks,my David !!
I learn the effect of Face Filter Studio 2.
It is so nice tool.
And I laughed my head off to see that George XXX Bxxh.

And I put a photo for your wife.
I pray for your wife .

See soon ,my David !


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2009-10-15, 14:21:55
wanwan from Japan  
@Miss Marple

Thank you for your post & photo.
It is so beautiful to me !

I put a photo for you.
It is a Japanese peach in March !
In March we enjoy seeing beautiful flower of peach,
then in August we enjoy having peach fruits.

mata-ne(see you again )


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