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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-10-17, 16:48:44
wanwan from Japan  

Pen !!! how you? I am glad that you have helped me, but I cannot open a file. There can be my computer is old and from for it at me it is impossible to open a file.
Please write to me in written form all data that I could receive your financial help.
I wish to tell that I very strongly love you, please write to me as soon as possible, I love I love I love you Pen!!!
Yours Olesya.


(I sent her a very small zip file.
She could not enlarge the one.
Off course I played with her.)


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64.191.59.248 UNITED STATES PENNSYLVANIA SCRANTON 41.4145
-75.6556 18447 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL NETWORK OPERATIONS CENTER INC HOSTNOC.NET

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 570 (USPA1459) SCRANTON





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Reverse DNS: 64-191-59-248.hostnoc.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname 64-191-59-248.hostnoc.net. does not exist]
ASN: 21788
ASN Name: NOC
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): ARIN
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 64.190.0.0 to 64.191.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Scranton, Pennsylvania
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 64.191.59.248


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2009-10-17, 17:06:00
wanwan from Japan  
@David
Hi,how is your day ?
It is 07:04 am in Japan time zone 10/18(Sun).
I enjoyed your art,thank you !


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2009-10-17, 17:50:44
wanwan from Japan  

Hello my love Pen!!!
How you? I'm fine, I have sent regards from you to my mum, it as sends regards to you.
I have concluded the contract with travel agency on August, 18th, to me have told that my documents will be ready from 5 till 15 days,
to me would tell that I would come to travel agency on Tuesday on August,
25th what to give them money for services of agency and to learn precisely when from me all documents will be ready.
I hope you would will help me financial help what to give money to travel agency till August, 25th.
After all documents will be ready I would will go to Moscow what to take away my visa, the visa stands out only in Moscow.
After I will receive the visa I buy the ticket and I go to you. I see very glad that I can you the eyes, I can embrace and kiss you!
I wait for your letter, always yours Olesya.



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Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
21.03.31.19 UNITED STATES OHIO COLUMBUS 39.986
-82.988 43218 -04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL DOD NETWORK INFORMATION CENTER ARMY.MIL

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
1 614 (USOH0212) COLUMBUS






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Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per a.root-servers.net.]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 20.0.0.0 to 21.255.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Columbus, Ohio
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: BOGUS
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 21.03.31.19





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2009-10-17, 18:05:20
wanwan from Japan  
@all Delphians

Delphi is something wrong.
Please see my posts.
I put this
1)2009-10-17, 16:17:30
wanwan from Japan

Then I submitted photo.But it was different photo that I had submitted.

So I clicked '' Edit '' button and again reposted.

I am very suprised that a new post has been put !
And it is same message except photo.
see this
2)2009-10-17, 17:50:44
wanwan from Japan

It is impossible for me to edit my post that I had put,why?




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2009-10-17, 19:01:35
wanwan from Japan  
2009-10-17, 19:36:05   (updated: 2009-10-17, 19:36:51)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2009-10-17, 20:01:16
Miss Marple from Sweden  
@WANWAN
@other delphians

You see this lunatic is here again...BUPKUS !!!!!!

This iranian fellower....

http://www.delphifa..#comments


Regards //Miss Marple//
2009-10-17, 20:20:33
David from United States  
The post must have been removed because I saw nothing but post from Dirk. To bad. I was hoping for another picture to make fun of.
2009-10-17, 21:13:14
wanwan from Japan  
@Miss Marple

Thank you for your efforts.
And crazy Iranian already has gone .
I can not find anything in there.
May I ask you ?
I emailed the admin and asked him to block this idiocy Iranian.
But the admin doesn't block him(admin,busy?).
So I hope you will email the admin and ask him to block this foolish?
This Iranian is a convinced spammer.
And he is a SICKO !
I think so.

See you soon ,my Miss Marple !
Good job !!!!!
2009-10-17, 21:29:25   (updated: 2009-10-17, 22:07:42)
David from United States  
Wanwan. I am not sure if the admin can block him as this is considered a public site (you pay no money to be here) and as such it violates the right of free speech. Of course other rules may apply too so I may be wrong. He may just be to busy with things. I am sure maintaining a web site like this one or any other one for that matter takes up lots of time. I know little of websites except you get newsletters many times from a place where you bought something. I get them from the place where the Face Filter Studio was purchased. Also, I have a question. Can I change my password if I register with this site??
2009-10-18, 02:04:01
Magnus from Ísmo, Sweden  
writes to the thread of anna ogannisyan,mine friends.we needs you.we wanna fishing up information about the armenian scammers in the internet.see you soon everybody.take care.regards.
2009-10-18, 02:06:29
Magnus from Ísmo, Sweden  
thanks for this link you writes here,miss marple.see you soon.
2009-10-18, 02:33:45
anonymous from United States  
dude donald trump that same chick just tried to scam me. I thought something was up and i found this site. the pic you posted were the sameones she ent me. Even the same e-amil about her father, mother, and sister. I had a feeling was up when she woulen't answer my questions i asked her. But thanks for the heads up.
2009-10-18, 06:22:21
Donald,Trumps from Australia  
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Hello anonymous,

I see you have been introduced to my beloved Evgeniya.
Isn't she beautiful?
Yes the photo and letters are identical.

My Evgeniya dropped me when I told her of my many medical bills,
and my inability to send money.
I could not play her any longer.
I had to quit before I caved in to her sweet words and dire situation.
So, I pleaded poverty, and she has never replied since.

My heart is broken, but my money is intact.
Take care, for she talks very sweetly and lovingly.
She will squeeze your heart to drain every drop she can from your bank account.

I hope that you are stronger than I, so that she may hopefully be caught.

Good luck my friend,
Donald


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2009-10-18, 06:40:56   (updated: 2009-10-18, 06:46:30)
Donald,Trumps from Australia  
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Hello My Friends,

Although My Lovely Evgeniya has deserted me, I now have a new 'love' who cannot live without me. Here is her First email:
My name is Kate and I do hope that our relationships will grow into something special. :)
I am very serious about my search because I want to create my family and to make my beloved
man happy. It is difficult to say about myself but I do hope that we will discover eachother
using our messages. All I can say is I love this world and its beauty. I like each day of my
life and I enjoy it. We never know what is waiting for us tomorrow. That is why I appreciate
each day of my life.
I would like to find my love, my real love. My man must be serious, reliable and honest.
I am a woman of one man and if I love, it is forever.
If you are interested in me,
write me to: katenkasweet@rambler.ru

I will be waiting for your respond very much.

Kate.


See? She loved me even before she wrote her letter of introduction.
You see how bold she (he) is?

Here is theader:
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From - Tue Oct 13 00:57:47 2009
X-Account-Key: account2
X-UIDL: ANsNw0MAAN6wStNDOAtiWgiSJLE
X-Mozilla-Status: 0003
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Authentication-Results: mta190.mail.sp2.yahoo.com from=rambler.ru; domainkeys=neutral (no sig); from=rambler.ru; dkim=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 127.0.0.1 (EHLO mailc.rambler.ru) (81.19.66.27)
by mta190.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:54:47 -0700
Received: from PC2 (unknown [91.200.161.63])
    (Authenticated sender: katenkasweet@rambler.ru)
    by mailc.rambler.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC277621C87
    for <MY ADDRESS>; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:54:32 +0400 (MSD)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:54:10 +0300
From: katenkasweet <katenkasweet@rambler.ru>
X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Professional
Organization: rambler.ru
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <10310212852.20091012175410@rambler.ru>
To: MY ADDRESS
Subject: from Katya (AM)
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Notice - X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Professional

BEWARE of this one.

If anyone knows of a better page to post thi woman(Man?), let me know.
I will post the rest there.

This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Liana Kolesnikova



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