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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-10-30, 06:10:11
DUCATI from Spain  
ALENA KAZAN


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2009-10-30, 12:50:05
DUCATI from Spain  
DARYA
This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Darya o Darya Stupina o darya.stupina@yahoo.com



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2009-10-30, 12:54:06
DUCATI from Spain  

DARYA
2009-10-30, 21:01:51
anonymous  
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Folks,this one is really funny
told here to go for a walk,after 2 weeks she came back on me,she didn't even
remember my id,so i played arround
her mailadress is:strawberry_kiss@i.ua

here she goes:
pictures are form Carrie Minter from the Sex page www.babe-envy.com

letter 1Hi!!!

It is great to make our first step in getting to know each
other better! :)I have read your profile and I found it very
interesting. I am so glad that you have paid your attention
to me! I am pleased to meet you here! :)I think that it's
just beginning of something special and unforgettable!

First of all I want to say you that I appreciate sincerity
and honesty in people! I think that relationship between man
and woman should based on trust and love. I love when my man
honest with me and I can trust him, share with him every
moments of my life.And he never cheat with me, we should be
sincere with each other. Of course I will do the same for my
beloved man.

I feel that you are not ordinary man for me!I think that you
are very interesting man and I want to continue to
communicate with, if of course don't mind?

I hope to find your letter in my mail box very soon, because
I really want it.I write you this letter from my e-mail
address, so send me your letter on this address:
strawberry_kiss@i.ua

Looking forward to hear from you soon,
Marina.


here goes the mailadress header:

Received: by 10.220.77.73 with SMTP id f9cs219077vck; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.211.184.8 with SMTP id l8mr1965668ebp.16.1256916824700; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <strawberry_kiss@i.ua> Received: from web01.mi6.kiev.ua (web01.mi6.kiev.ua [91.198.36.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 12si2122124ewy.74.2009.10.30.08.33.44; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of strawberry_kiss@i.ua designates 91.198.36.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=91.198.36.2; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of strawberry_kiss@i.ua designates 91.198.36.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=strawberry_kiss@i.ua Received: from [193.17.253.2] (helo=x3) by web01.mi6.kiev.ua with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <strawberry_kiss@i.ua>) id 1N3tTv-0004CU-TD ; Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:33:40 +0200 X-AntiVirus: Checked by Dr.Web [version: 5.0, engine: 5.00.0.12182, virus records: 719885, updated: 30.10.2009] Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:29:02 +0200 From: strawberry_kiss@i.ua X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1133599353.20091030172902@i.ua> Subject: From Marisha In-Reply-To: <bf12a11e0910291101l34b07830oee1d72b63bf9fa86@mail.gmail.com> References: <bf12a11e0910280849h523afea0ndd9edd86d48a16f0@mail.gmail.com> <1381938294.20091029172108@i.ua> <bf12a11e0910291101l34b07830oee1d72b63bf9fa86@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

some pictures for entertainment



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2009-10-30, 21:06:38
anonymous  
letter 2:
Hi, my darling, xxxx,

I am very happy to receive your letter! It is so sweet and I
love your words and dreams!I'm glad that now we can discuss
our relations and solve all the problems and questions
between us.I'm really interested in you, I hope you think
the same. I fell that you are interesting and not ordinary
person!:)

I'm terribly sorry about your father!It's a pity!It's always
very difficult to lose native people!:(

In my life I always try to trust my intuition! It's too
excited, when you can listen your inner world! What about
you, do you trust yours inner feelings?

About translate my letters to you.As I told I find very good
agency, they have a good reputation and there work really
good specialist!Yes, it costs me a little bit expensive, but
right now I don't have another way in order to communicate
with you!And when we meet I think we can use the
interpreter's service!What do you think?

As for my sports, I practise the volleyball and also I like
to swim.I very often go to the swimming pool!I adore to feel
fresh water on my skin!For me it's good way for relax!:)

You know,dear, I'm really wanted to ask one more questions.
How you imagine our first date? As for me, I think it will
be wonderful if it was the hiding at the forest. It'll be
like at the middle ages. And also it'll be so romantic to
hide and speak with your sweety hearts!:) Do you agree with
me? I think that's very important when at the relations
between woman and man, the romantic isn't at the last stage.
You know, our world is so cruel and closed, and people live
only for work and money. It's so boring!!!:( As for me, when
woman and man want to live in harmony with each other, they
must try to make lovely surprises each day. Especially, it
will be cool to make surprise each other in bed every
night.:)))Are you agree with me? I think it's very important
when the person satisfy in sexual life, isn't it?

Maybe you are wondering why I decided to search my man
abroad! Unfortunately our men don't respect women. I've my
friend, and her husband started to drink and even hit her.
It's awful! Can you imagine it? And it's not rarely case in
family life in our country. Our men became cruel and rude.
And they forget how treat about their Lady. They've bad
manners and don't tell any compliments for their beloved.
Also most of Ukrainian men don't want to have a family, I
don't even tell about children. It's pity! I realized that I
don't want to connect my life with Ukrainian men. I hope you
have another point of view for this situation!:)

I'm looking forward to hear from you soon!!! I wish you good
day and very good mood!

Kisses, your's
Marina!!!


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2009-10-30, 21:11:29
anonymous from Brazil  
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letter 3 with final translation company scam correspondence:
Hi, my dearest, xxx!

I am so happy to receive your full letter! How I love to
read about you and your life! I love to learn daily about
you! It is great to read your lovely words about me!

Dear, I want to tell you one thing, day by day I realize
that you are important for me. And you become one of the
main part of my life. It's too pleasant to understand that
you have own and native person in this big world. I think
that anybody is in need of somebody's attention and care
independently of their status. I feel that our contact
become too necessary for me. I hope you feel the same!:)

You know, as you I love sex very much.I like to satisfy my
man at any time and any places.I like when my beloved man
wants me all the time.I love to have sex two or three times
a day!As for me sex should sometimes tender, sometimes very
hot and passionate.;)I love to have sex in extreme
places!;)What about you?And I also have no limits in sex in
sex with my beloved man!

I like your idea about our first meeting!it sounds very
romantic and tender!And about continuation of our first
meeting it will be very hot and passionate whole
night!deal&;)

Honey, you remembered, I wrote you that I have some problems
with my English. I can speak only Russian and Ukrainian.
Therefore I use the help of the translation service. But it
is not free one. I should pay for translation of my letters,
but now unfortunately I don't have such opportunity. At my
work I have some problems.My salary reduced in a half. And I
now I have lack of money and I need your help.Dear, I just
can not imagine my life without our communication!I really
worry that I can lose you:( Because I'm very interested in
you.I feel that our meeting isn't accidental, maybe it's
destiny!Sure, in future I'm going to learn English. I think
it's necessary not only for me but first of all, it's for
us! I will be waiting for your response. If you need some
days to think, i am ready to wait, but please, write me
back. It is very important to know your opinion!

Dear, I decide to share with you some private photos!I hope
you don't mind? This photos made my friend, she is
professional photograph!It made only for you, my love!

Look forward for your response!Have a nice day!

Kisses and hugs,
YoMarina

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
them big guy's behind the scene:
Dear Mr. xxx ,


We are translation company 'Sigma', which provide fast quality
translation for our clients. We have been working since 2002, and we
gave a good account of ourselves and made a good showing of reliable
partner since the beginning of our work. We have to contact you ,
because one of our clients Marina Rastorgueva, asked us to write you.
We helped you to communicate and translated your letters. We hope that
you were pleased with our translation. Your lady paid for our service
herself , but having a difficult financial situation, she can't pay
for our services anymore. If you are interested to continue
correspondence with Marina, we can send you our price-list for the
translation service.

We will be glad to cooperate with you and help you to stay in contact
with your your lady. There are well-educated and experienced
interpreters work in our company. We created a team of good
specialists. They provide different kind of translation.

Here it is following list the main of our service :

-translation from Russian into English;
-translation from English into Russian;
-oral translation;
-bushiness and personal translation;
-translation of phone conversations between our clients;

As a serious translation company, we adhere to four values that
comprise the core of our philosophy and drive our business:
Professionalism. We do not work with incompetent translators. Our
staff includes only professional people who have years of experience
and know their craft. Reliability. We work hard to serve each client’s
requirements meet assigned deadlines. Affordable. We optimize our work
process to ensure that the product you receive from us is high-quality
at an attractive price. Ease of payment. We support many types of
payments.

Our translators are always ready to help you to stay in touch with
miss Marina! We guarantee that we will respond quickly to your request
for quote!

Sincerely yours,
Lydmila Nikolaenko - Director of 'Sigma'


THIS TRANSLATING
COMPANY IS GETTING MORE FAMOUS THEN THE POPE..........







Keywords:
2009-10-30, 21:15:30
anonymous  
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maybe for any help,hope the administrator of this helpfull site
allows them

thanks AD
2009-10-30, 21:17:35
anonymous  
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Carrie Minter from the Sex page babe-envy.com
more pict...


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2009-10-30, 21:20:15
anonymous  
rating
2009-10-30, 21:21:24
anonymous from Brazil  
Carrie Minter from the Sex page babe-envy.com
2009-10-30, 21:55:57
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-10-30, 21:15:30
anonymous

maybe for any help,hope the administrator of this helpfull site
allows them

thanks AD




Thank you for your scam reports but please don't post any Nudity.
If you post such stuff, please erase a part of her.


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2009-10-30, 21:57:27
WW from Japan  
@2009-10-30, 21:20:15
anonymous




Keywords:
2009-10-30, 21:58:46
WW from Japan  
@2009-10-30, 21:21:24
anonymous from Brazil

Carrie Minter from the Sex page babe-envy.com




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2009-10-30, 22:46:30
wanwan from Japan  
We can search for her without her nice tits.
Thank you !


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2009-10-30, 23:21:30
Miss Marple from Sweden  
@ANONYMOUS

NO IMPROPRIATE PICTURES !!

NO NUDITY AND NO PORN!!

HERE COMES WOMEN AND OTHER SENSITIVE PEOPLE

TO WATCH THE THREADS...

THESE PICTURES WILL BE REMOVED.

REGARDS //MISS MARPLE//
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