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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-11-06, 07:42:12
RealMadrid from Spain  
On twitter

More proof that uadreams.om is a fraudulent website http://bit.ly/1mjpAe will Olga Orlova be sacked? 3 minutes ago from bit.ly

Amigos no Brasil e toda a gente não gasta mais com dólar absolutamente não uadreams.com

Amigos en Brazil y todo mundo no gasta ninugun dollar más con uadreams.com

Friends in Brazil and everybody else do not spend one more dollar withuadreams.com
2009-11-06, 08:51:43
wanwan from Japan  
Lilia=Liliya= lilialovekiss@rambler.ru

(I invited her to USA,,,,,)






Hello, my love XX!
I am pleased to speak again with you!
I am pleased that our relationship is encouraging and we became more close people.
I tell you about my parents and friends.
Yes, I love to cook. I work as a cook after all. Or you forgot that I can cook?
They insist that I introduced you to them, my parents particularly hard.
I told them that our relationship is serious.
I think you're a good man. You know that parents always wish children only good when their children are happy.
Do you have any plans concerning our relations?
I think that we will be very good if we can spend a few days together.
This is strengthen our relations and will help us explore the best of each other.
Perhaps soon we can meet in your country.
Or else. Understand me correctly, I can not invite you to imagine.
I live with parents, and yet I know you is not enough for this purpose.
Between us we had only a message and I think we better meet in another place.
I very much wanted to be with you, see your eyes and communicate with you!
Dear, this way we can make full opinion on us and learn about many things.
We need to discuss it.
I look forward to your views, I also send you a kiss.
Your Lilia.





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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
77.40.15.239 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK


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IP Information - 77.40.15.239IP address: 77.40.15.239
Reverse DNS: 239.15.pppoe.mari-el.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 5591
ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net)
IP range connectivity: 15
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 77.40.15.239


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http://whatismyipad..40.15.239


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http://whatismyipad..acklisted


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http://www.spamhaus..PBL140596

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2009-11-06, 09:33:44
wanwan from Japan  
2009-11-06, 10:00:21
Magnus from Huddinge, Sweden  
anna ogannisyan.help us to get the armenian scammers in the internet.writes to the thread of anna ogannisyan,guys.regards.
2009-11-06, 10:02:50
mAGNUS from Huddinge, Sweden  
hello wan wan.my life is good.see you soon.regards.
2009-11-07, 02:16:09
Magnus from Solna, Sweden  
writes to the thread of anna ogannisyan,guys.regards from sweden.have a nice weekend.
2009-11-07, 03:01:39
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
lilialovekiss@rambler.ru


First name: Lilia
Last name: Pavlova
Aka: Olga Kuledina, Kulebyaka
Age: 28
Location(s): Cheboksary (Russia), Kirov (Russia)
Address(es): Russia, Cheboksary, Petrova str., 5-1; Russia, Kirov, Leninskiy pr., 20
Phone number(s): unknown
E-mail address(es): Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru; olgakule@gmail.com
Operates on site(s): City of Brides, Date Me Free


http://www.stop-sca..ewsID=254

http://sydney.olx.c..-25593121

I am honest girl. NO bad habits.
LOVE read a lot. LOVE SPORTS AND ALL THAT compatible with it.
SO DO I like to stroll Outdoors
My address of e-mail Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru
I am honest girl. NO bad habits.
LOVE read a lot. LOVE SPORTS AND ALL THAT compatible with it.
SO DO I like to stroll Outdoors
My address of e-mail Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru


http://www.perfspot..9895E7243

lilia.lilyflower@gmail.com
lilia4revers1981@mail.ru
liliak.liliak@gmail.com
Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru
lilian_atata102001@yahoo.fr
lilian_benson88@yahoo.co.in


http://www.datingnm..mail4.htm

http://www.scammerl..isit.html

http://www.luvfree...ksary.htm

http://russia-scammers.com/




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2009-11-07, 08:56:45
wanwan from Japan  
Our Lilia=Liliya

77.40.15.239 (IP)

http://www.spamhaus..dex.lasso
(Please put this '' 77.40.15.239 '' there )


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2009-11-07, 11:29:08
OJAS from United States  
@RealMadrid,
Dirk is helping us, he WON'T get scammed, no worries there. But the concern should be for the Brasileiro, he maybe a newbie, cold lose money, simply for emailing to a photo, and some paid email writers in Ukraine. I tried pointing him to the Portuguese there, where he might find much better help. He probably can understand Spanish, he should read the full threads, both started by Vicoz, one UADREAMS, and another Gallina P. He can search at the top of this page for those threads. He can anytime, search for Portuguese threads, with some Portuguese words, not used in English, or he can ask.
2009-11-07, 11:33:22   (updated: 2009-11-07, 11:35:41)
anonymous from Spain  
@everyone

have you received a letter from a lady at uadreams.com?

do you think it was written specially for you?

No Jim´s list says they are manufactured and sent to multiple men (which is fraudulent)

Check a few samples out here before you get caught in the 'honeytrap'

http://myuadreamsex..gspot.com

saludos de España
2009-11-07, 12:10:13   (updated: 2009-11-07, 12:44:35)
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-11-07, 11:33:22 (updated: 2009-11-07, 11:35:41)
anonymous from Spain

Thanks Real Madrid !
I agree with you !
Newbies ! please listen to him.
See your face !
Think of your age !
Are you a rich man ?
And see those photos that suspicious websites have sent to.
She fell into love with you ??????
Even if real girls email you,it is a BUSINESS not a LOVE !
Learn & think with your BRAIN not with your TESTICLES !
Think !
It is only BUSINESS that they are trying to rob you of your hard working MONEY !
Think !


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2009-11-07, 12:11:05   (updated: 2009-11-07, 12:16:26)
RealMadrid from Spain  
@everyone

have you received a letter from a lady at uadreams.com?

do you think it was written specially for you?

No Jim´s list says they are manufactured and sent to multiple men (which is fraudulent)

Check a few samples out here before you get caught in the 'honeytrap'

http://myuadreamsex..gs. com

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Você já recebeu uma carta de uma senhora no uadreams.com?

você acha que foi escrito especialmente para você?

Não lista de Jim diz que eles são fabricados e enviados para vários homens (que é fraudulenta)

Verifique alguns exemplos aqui fora antes de você começar travado no 'Armadilha do Mel '
http://bit.ly/14BURu

saludos de España
2009-11-07, 12:28:30
anonymous from Spain  
@uadreams.com

Вы получили письмо от дамы uadreams.com?

Вы думаете, она была написана специально для Вас?

Список Нет Джим говорит, что они изготовлены и отправлены на нескольких мужчин (которые мошенническим)

Проверка нескольких образцах здесь, прежде чем попасть в 'honeytrap '

http://bit.ly/2T2O7u

Saludos Испании

a mi amigo en japon

あなたuadre. comでは女性から手紙を受け取ったがあります か?

あなたが特別な場合のために書かれ と思いますか?

いいえ、ジムのリストは 製造され、複数の人に送信されます(これ )詐欺と言う

をここにいくつかのサンプ ルを確認する前に、'honeytrap'に巻き込まれる

http://bit.ly/381UXS

saludosデエスパーニャ
2009-11-07, 12:42:16
wanwan from Japan  
Lilia=Liliya!

I invited her to USA.
And she suggested a travel agency.
'' A travel agency '' = a trouble agency,thank you !


Hello my dear XX!
I once again pleased to receive your letter, once again!
Dear me, I always am pleased to receive your letter.
My mood has become even better after I read your letter.
Your home will not be against what I was arriving to you?
I would not want to create for you any inconvenience. Today I visited the travel agency.
They said that their firm can prepare my trip.
This will require about 7 days.
They will prepare me a passport, visa and insurance.
The agent said that the visa I should reach to Moscow, and then your embassy.
They said that they can make sure that I could get a visa without any problems.
Then the agency would be obliged to reserve for me a ticket and a more convenient route of flight.
I told them that I probably will sign a contract with them for my trip.
Tomorrow I will examine the details of the cost and necessary documents.
Today I had a little free time from my work also failed to examine all the details.
Thus, I will talk with my parents, asking them to help me pay for this contract.
I hope very much, my beautiful, that everything will be fine, that we will soon be with each other.
I often think about it.
I have various imaginations concerning us two.
My parents could not help because the poor people, and I do not ask very hard not to worry their finance.
I hope that some money for our meeting will not be a problem for you.
But if your financial situation does not allow, I will try to look for itself to solve this problem.
Write me soon.
I love you.



She is a good businessman.




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Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
77.40.91.172 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK




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IP Information - 77.40.91.172 IP address: 77.40.91.172
Reverse DNS: 172.91.pppoe.mari-el.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 5591
ASN Name: MARTELCOM-AS (Mari El Net)
IP range connectivity: 15
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 77.40.0.0 to 77.40.127.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: BOGUS
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 77.40.91.172



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http://www.trusteds..0.91.172+


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http://www.spamhaus..40.91.172

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2009-11-07, 12:50:56   (updated: 2009-11-07, 12:58:39)
RealMadrid from Spain  
Google
Resultados de imágenes de Olga Orlova
http://bit.ly/2WPc6r

Olga Orlova uadreams Support Center - Real Name?

They are even afraid to have a fixed line phone in their office
+38 (068) 963-90-15 investigations show this is a mobile phone

All information you need about Kiev / Kyiv, Ukraine ...
- [ Traducir esta página ]
Prepaid packages are provided by all Ukrainian mobile operators and can be purchased in every shop ... Numbers start from +38 (068) Phone: 8 800 30 101 30 ...
http://www.gokiev.i..mobile.php



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