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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-11-28, 03:02:40
RealMadrid from Spain  
So they Russian Gays are still at it? Men posing as women! Well if it gives them a thrill!

Так они русский гомосексуалисты все еще находятся на это? Мужчины выдают себя за женщин! Ну, если это дает им трепет!

I see Russians are reading my material

Saludos

RealMadrid
2009-11-28, 03:19:06   (updated: 2009-11-28, 03:29:37)
RealMadrid from Spain  
Even though UaLadys and Uadreams seem to have gone very quiet http://bit.ly/2lkTZw I am still trying to do my bit by a Couple of Twitter posts below

то русская девушка обманывать меня? Как распознать мошенников http://bit.ly/7HuD6L
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers http://bit.ly/7HuD6L [/


WanWan I have decided to adopt this symbol! 信じる I find a great empathy with it

Saludos
2009-11-28, 07:03:17   (updated: 2009-11-28, 07:17:19)
RealMadrid from Spain  
--- El mié, 25/11/09, Marian Schroeder <0.majestic40@unattended> escribió:
> De: Marian Schroeder <0.majestic40@unattended>
> Asunto: Votre annonce me plait beaucoup
> Para: infjaf00@yahoo.es
> Fecha: miércoles, 25 de noviembre, 2009 21:34
> Bonjour mon ami! Je m'appelle Marina.
> Votre annonce me plait beaucoup!
> Si vous etes un homme serieux qui veut trouver l'amour et
> construire
> une famille solide et amicale je suis prete a vous
> repondre..
> Je veux savoir plus sur vous, voir vos photos, savoir
> vos interets, hobbies..
> Je serai tres heureuse de communiquer avec vous et
> apprendre a vous connaitre!
>
> S'il vous plait repondre uniquement a mes e-mails
> personnalises: beautiful5babym@ymail.com
>
> J'attends vos messages avec impatience!
>
> Marina
>
--- El mié, 25/11/09, Marian Schroeder <@ 0.majestic40 unattended> escribió:
> From: Marian Schroeder <@ 0.majestic40 unattended>
> Asunto: Your ad I like a lot
> Para: infjaf00@yahoo.es
Fecha: martes, 25 de noviembre, 2009 21:34
> Hello my friend! My name is Marina.
> Your ad I like very much!
> If you're a serious man who wants to find love and
> Build
> A strong family and friendship I am ready to
> Answer ..
> I want to know more about you, see your picture, namely
> Your interests, hobbies ..
> I am very happy to communicate with you and
> Getting to know you!
>
> Please reply only to my e-mails
> Customized: beautiful5babym@ymail.com
>
> I look forward to your posts!
>
> Marina

Also posted here
Входящие - Письмо от Марины. Я не французски, и я уверен, что ты русский человек http://bit.ly/8cBSVp
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2009-11-28, 07:23:12
ww from Japan  
@Real Madrid

Great job !
Thank you for your efforts.
I agree with you that Russian scammers are reading your posts and are watching you carefully.

This image was also posted here:
Dating scammer Steven Leanman



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2009-11-28, 09:00:32   (updated: 2009-11-28, 09:04:03)
wanwan from Japan  
My Lilia = Liliya ,,,,,

Hello my love XX!!!
My dear, I came here to your next letter.
Dear me you can not imagine I am happy that letter.
To me, your letters are very important and are as important your words in them.
My dear when I read your letter, I really enjoy your words.
Dear my XX when I read your letter, I saw it matters to me.
I will answer all your questions and I'll say only one answer YES, YES and YES again.
Because you are my treasure.
To me, you dear people.
My Dear XX I want to ask you a question. XX When you send me money, so I was able to pay for all the documents and send you a copy of the visa?
It is very important that you saw my copy of the visa.
My dear you send me full $ 5000 or not?
My dear XX when I just wait for the day when you send me money?
Love my XX please answer me these questions.
I will wait.
With great respect and great love for thee thy Liliya.

1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 I give you kisses.


I ne,
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr remit to you via W/Union ! Thank you !!


**
Sender
IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
77.40.98.64 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK



**
http://www.trusteds...40.98.64





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2009-11-28, 09:08:42
wanwan from Japan  
Only money in Liliya's head !



My dear, I am pleased once again to your letter. Dear me, I thee whole.
My dear XX pleased that you will be Western Union.
Dear exactly when you will be in the agency Western Union?
I am very interested.


**



Sender


IP Address Country Region City Latitude/
Longitude ZIP Code Time Zone
77.40.98.64 RUSSIAN FEDERATION MARIY-EL YOSHKAR-OLA 56.637
47.871 - +04:00
Net Speed ISP Domain
DSL OJSC VOLGATELECOM RELINFO.RU

IDD Code Area Code Weather Station
7 - (RSXX0186) KOZ'MODEM'JANSK










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Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2009-11-28, 09:13:33   (updated: 2009-11-28, 09:14:01)
wanwan from Japan  

My dear I am so pleased to see your letter again.
Dear my XX like you? How to pass the search Western Union?
My dear you have a few of these agencies?
Honey, I look forward to the day when you send me the money to pay for all the things that I need to travel to you.
My dear, I really want to get on the ball to be with you.
Because I love you.
My Dear you are my everything.
I have the whole you.
Your love Liliya.





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2009-11-28, 09:28:24
wanwan from Japan  

HI my love XX !!!
How are you ? How weather at you ?
I am heated in heat of your letters and dreams about
Day, that I can hold you in my hands and show you it
I worry about you and I love you.
My dear XX after when I read your letter, I was just in shock.
My dear as you can not send money? Since then, this is what you'd like to display in W / U visa?
When invented the law. I do not believe this. My Sweet in West Union, or where no visa is required.
My dear XX you cheated in West Union, or you told me a lie? Dear XX, Western Union or should any of the visa.
My dear XX to send the money just my data. Country and city where I live. My full name. Here is all you need to transmit the money.
For me to get the money I need from you: The country and city where you live. Just complete your name and surname. And most importantly it MTCN.
That will give you the Western Union to transfer money. My dear just do not forget me even specify the exact amount. This is also very important.
My dear XX as I wrote to you earlier. I can not send you a copy of the visa.
Because I have to pay for it first. So just me or who does not give a copy of the visa.
So my dear you need to send me money, then I can send you a copy of the visa. But first I need to pay for it.
My dear do you understand me. If yesterday you could not send me the amount in full, you can send me one first half of the money, and then the other half.
My dear XX I look forward to you.
I feel warm heat your soul, and I feel
The strong need for you to have an effect and IS SHOWN, that you Like.
Your letters always bring to me huge pleasure, my love?
I feel to you a huge attraction and huge love, Which reduces me from mind.
I so wait for our meeting with you !!! I dream of our meeting !!!
I wait for our meeting with you !!! I want our meeting with you !!!
And I want to tell you, that I love you. I finish my letter to you with ideas on you.
Yours Liliya!!!





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2009-11-28, 09:42:05
anonymous from Spain  
@wanwan - shall I play this one?

Dear Marian or should I say Marina

I translated your letter into English as I do not live in France and whilst I learnt French at School I do not remember it now

I do not know where you saw my profile? Maybe on an online dating site!

How do I know that you did send this letter to many men? and how do I know that you are not a man? I here that there is a town east of Moscow where it is all men writing the letters and sending photos of their girl friends

When you confirm that you are a lady and send me more photos to prove it then I will be happy to continue writing to you. I am a racing driver and can send you a photo of me in my car!

Have a nice day

Regards Race Harker
2009-11-28, 09:49:45
RealMadrid from Spain  
@wanwan - shall I play this one?

Dear Marian or should I say Marina

I translated your letter into English as I do not live in France and whilst I learnt French at School I do not remember it now

I do not know where you saw my profile? Maybe on an online dating site!

How do I know that you did send this letter to many men? and how do I know that you are not a man? I here that there is a town east of Moscow where it is all men writing the letters and sending photos of their girl friends

When you confirm that you are a lady and send me more photos to prove it then I will be happy to continue writing to you. I am a racing driver and can send you a photo of me in my car!

Have a nice day

Regards Race Harker
(the hero in my western novel that I wrote in Korea http://bit.ly/5PtziF)
2009-11-28, 11:27:18
ww from Japan  
@R/Madrid !!

Thank you for your concerning !
I hope you will play innocent and play with her.
Waste her time!!
And take their forged passport,or fake Visa !
Russian scammers hate the game.
So I try to give them my games.

Again thank you for your time to join us.

PS
Thanks for your link.
I will read that one.








2009-11-28, 12:09:32
RealMadrid from Spain  
@WanWan

I hope that I have made Marina´s weekend she has hooked a racing driver Ha Ha!

Saludos and hope you enjoy my novel

2009-11-30, 05:08:02
RealMadrid from Spain  
@WanWan

Well this weekend I decided to place one of my famous counters on one of my first blogs and Guess what?

My post attracted someone from Paris so the Lady (Man) has been busy!

http://itccommunica..gspot.com/
    15:06:07, 29 Nov     79.92.78.67     3 of 3     R: google > beautiful5babym@ymai...     Página de salida
http://itccommunica..st_28.html
    15:06:03, 29 Nov     79.92.78.67     2 of 3     R: google > beautiful5babym@ymai...     4'
...spot.com/&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjoWhmlpZP_-E9tVqlH5UJ-URV9CQ
    15:05:43, 29 Nov     79.92.78.67     1 of 3     R: google > beautiful5babym@ymai...     20'
http://itccommunica..st_28.html
    15:05:15, 29 Nov     79.92.78.67     0 of 3     R: google > beautiful5babym@ymai...

I have received a letter from her/him today with a couple of photos!

Saludos
2009-11-30, 06:38:33   (updated: 2009-11-30, 07:14:25)
RealMadrid from Spain  
Salut!!!
domingo, 29 de noviembre, 2009 13:30
De:
'Marina' <beautiful5babym@ymail.com>
Salut xxxx!
Merci pour votre lettre.
Je veux dire a vous quelque chose sur moi directement dans cette lettre.
Désolé, mais je ne me souviens pas du site où j'ai récupéré votre adresse
e-mail, j'étais ordinateur d'un ami et un peu erré autour de l'Internet
et avez-vous vu, votre profil et j'ai vraiment aimé, j'ai décidé de vous
souvenir de votre e-mail, afin que plus tard vous écrivez une lettre et
peut-être apprendre à se connaître et maintenant je suis content que je l'ai
fait.Maintenant un peu plus sur moi. Je vis dans la Russie. Region de la Volga.
Cela - approximativement 950 km de Moscou. Ma hauteur - 170cm.
Je n'ai pas les enfants. Je suis feminin et tendre dans mon coeur.
J'aime le confort domestique, la chaleur et le calme sous la relation familiale.
Je suis ne le 10 Decembre 1980.
A 1997 je suis sorti de l'ecole. J'en etudiant 5 ans est sorti de l'universite.
J'ai etudie la langue anglaise , Francise a l'universite.
Je travaille en tant que medecin, puisque j'aime les enfants.
Je vis celui-la. J'ecris de mon travail, puisque je n'ai pas d'ordinateur a la maison.
Je tiens à vous parler dans ce qu'est un chat, mais malheureusement je ne peux pas
parce que le travail que je n'ai pas le temps pour cela? donc je vais vous écrire une lettre.
Ecrivez moi plus sur vous.
Que vous aimez ? Vous avez la famille ?
Les enfants ? Quel votre travail ? Vous aimez la nature ?
Vous avez les animaux domestiques ? Vous pouvez envoyer vos photos ?
J'attends votre lettre.
Marina beautiful5babym@ymail.com
Hi xxxx!
Thank you for your letter.
I mean you have something on me directly in this letter.
Sorry, but I do not remember the site where I picked up your address
e-mail, I was a friend's computer and just wandered around the Internet
and have you seen your profile and I really liked, I decided you
Remember your e-mail, so that later you write a letter and
perhaps get to know and now I'm glad I
fait.Maintenant more about me. I live in Russia. Region of the Volga.
This - approximately 950 km from Moscow. My height - 170cm.
I have no children. I am feminine and tender in my heart.
I like home comfort, warmth and calm in the family relationship.
I'm not December 10, 1980.
In 1997 I left the school. I student is 5 years out of college.
I studied the English language, the university has Francise.
I work as a doctor, because I love children.
I saw that the. I write about my work, since I have no computer at home.
I would like to speak in what is a cat, but unfortunately I can not
because the work I do not have time for that? so I'll write you a letter.
Write me more about you.
Whether you like it? You have family?
Children? What your work? You love nature?
You have pets? You can send your photos?
I await your letter.
Marina
Also click here to see both photos of Marina? and proof that same first letter was sent to someone in Paris and another in Amiens yesterday 29 November 2009 http://bit.ly/7irdWu


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2009-11-30, 08:45:34   (updated: 2009-11-30, 08:47:06)
WW from Japan  
@R/Madrid !
Thank you for your efforts.
I see you are playing with Marina !
LOL !
For a few weeks ago we played with Anna.
Our Magnus asked us to play with her,
so we were starting to attack on Anna together.
Her mail box was flooded with our funny letters like SPAMS,LOL !
Plus I sent her my special X-zip file !
I guessed my file worked.



Thank you for your scam reports,I enjoyed those reports.
ha,ha,ha,ha,
you are brave !
mata-ne !
I am waiting for your next reports,thanks !



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