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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-12-03, 04:36:26
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2009-12-03, 17:18:15
anonymous from United Kingdom  

Thanks guys, I figured out the IP address in .de and ca. Another message today..things are hotting up now..she wants to visit me on her birthday..hmmm any takers on what comes next??
2009-12-03, 19:10:57   (updated: 2009-12-03, 19:14:09)
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Haven't got the foggiest. LOL

Don't pay the Ferryman, untill he gets you to the other side...

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2009-12-04, 01:02:35
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-12-03, 17:18:15
anonymous from United Kingdom

The money payment stage is coming coming coming up .
It is the time for you that she will ask for your money.
She will say '' I need some money for VISA,passport.But I don't have enough money for those documents.So help me .Remit to me via Western Union ''.
It is HIS(not she ) monkey business.

Have a ball !
And be careful !

Thank you for your scam reports.
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2009-12-04, 09:34:06
RealMadrid from Spain  
(The e-mail are normally written by men, the photos of lady friends or stolen from Russian Social web sites)

Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 16:53:17 +0800
From: 'Krista Andrews' <--byelaura2000@USER>
To: xxxxx@xxxxxxx
Subject: How are you?


Good day my dear friend! (Does not even know my name and yet writes out of the blue!)

How are you? 'I thought for a long time to write to you and now I decided to do this, I very modest girl because of this I am very hard to write, first you must understand this, I want to meet you, to have communion with you and learn more about you, I really need a friend and I hope you can be them! If you have difficulties in translation, you can use a translator,

I was not too much trouble!? My name is Irina, I am 27 years old, if you want to know me more email me at My personal e-mail: tesmairinka@yahoo.com

I'll be very glad to receive your response, and I want to send you some of my photos, I think you will like it, look I will wait for your answer!

Irina
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2009-12-04, 12:09:10
Real Madrid from Spain  
tesmairinka@yahoo.com
I think this is the work of a Nigerian Scammer

Checked the statistics and found this when clicked on our tracking which have twitted

'Nigerian IP 213.185.118.183 Googled tesmairinka@yahoo.com probably the scammer also someone in Sweden (potential victim)'

News & Comments: Inbox scam attempt today - My name is Irina, I am ...
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My name is Irina, I am 27 years old, if you want to know me more email me at My personal e-mail: tesmairinka@yahoo.com. I'll be very glad to receive your ...
itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols.blogspot.com/.../inbox-scam-attempt-today-my-name-is.html - hace 2 horas -
2009-12-04, 12:54:45
Real Madrid from Spain  
tesmairinka@yahoo.com
I think this is the work of a Nigerian Scammer

Checked the statistics and found this when clicked on our tracking which have twitted
'Nigerian IP 213.185.118.183 Googled tesmairinka@yahoo.com probably the scammer also someone in Sweden (potential victim)'

News & Comments: Inbox scam attempt today - My name is Irina, I am ...
- [ Traducir esta página ]
My name is Irina, I am 27 years old, if you want to know me more email me at My personal e-mail: tesmairinka@yahoo.com. I'll be very glad to receive your ...
itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols.blogspot.com/.../inbox-scam-attempt-today-my-name-is.html - hace 2 horas -
2009-12-04, 13:23:24
ww from Japan  
2009-12-04, 14:00:13
OJAS from United States  
Gracias RealMadrid 2009-12-04, 09:34:06. Ring http://www.delphifa..=8#100280
This Tineye link may be active for about 72 hours http://tineye.com/s..6f9293a8a2
2009-12-04, 14:46:25   (updated: 2009-12-04, 14:48:44)
anonymous from United Kingdom  
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X-SID-PRA: militinochka@gmail.com
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Received: from warez-b2e3df5ca.mshome.net (123.37.pppoe.mari-el.ru [77.40.37.123])
Note different IP address.
Had the dream sequence letter today...
xxxxx you know, what happens yesterday? I, as well as thought, have met you in the dream. It was so perfectly. We have met in the street, I went along the street and thought about something, You went to me towards and thought of the. And we have casually faced, xxxxx, you have asked, I will go with you to cinema or not. I have told, I do not know. You had one more ticket, And you have invited me. And I have gone with you to cinema. But cinemas we did not look, we communicated with you more. When the comedy has ended, we left cinema happy and happy. You have told, that spend me. When we have reached the house we did not wish to be separated. We stood about my door both talked. Also have not noticed, As became close one to another and we have kissed. AS OUR FIRST KISS WAS FINE!!!!!! IT WAS FINE!!!!!! On my body there has passed a pleasant shiver. I have fallen in your embraces, and you have kept me, and we continued to kiss.

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2009-12-04, 20:43:29
anonymous from Canada  
Sunemily79@yahoo.com
calles herself Emily real name Olga Khanaeva that she goes by for documents. address
Russia Korolev Lesnayna 13/16 141070

Jackson fr Canada
2009-12-04, 22:16:29   (updated: 2009-12-04, 22:22:34)
[hidden] from Canada  
Have anybody else been scammed out of money by this girl name Emily aka olga Khanaeva her email address is sunemily79@yahoo.com her home address that she provided to me is as follows Korolev,Lesnaya,13/16,Russia 141070. She scammed me out of money if she has done this to anyone else please report her to proper authorities.Cause thats what I have done we need to stop innocent people from getting scam by this bitches. Emily you and you're group will be caught !!!!



JACKSON FROM CANADA


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2009-12-05, 01:02:01
007 from United Kingdom  
Whatever else you do, DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY'

OK??

007
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2009-12-05, 01:04:45
ww from Japan  
@Miss Marple

Do you find this message ?
2009-12-04, 14:46:25 (updated: 2009-12-04, 14:48:44)
anonymous from United Kingdom

It is YOUR turn !
Please do your fine analysis on this info.


Thank you.
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2009-12-05, 03:46:02
anonymous  
>Dayira kudreshova-dasha-
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