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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2009-12-07, 10:12:23
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2009-12-07, 12:11:31
DUCATI from Spain  

MAS FOTOS DE NATALIYA

nataliyanata56@yahoo.com


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2009-12-07, 12:13:51   (updated: 2009-12-07, 12:21:59)
DUCATI from Spain  
nataliyanata56@yahoo.com


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2009-12-07, 12:58:49
DUCATI from Spain  



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2009-12-07, 13:16:24
DUCATI from Spain  



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2009-12-08, 03:40:35
wanwan from Japan  
@DUCATI from Spain

Thank you & good job !


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2009-12-08, 06:19:42
anonymous from Spain  
Some of you know this man? .. He calls himself Steve Murphy, says he is English and has sent me some pictures .. I was contacted on Meetic and he chats on yahoo also .. it makes sending money to Accra-Ghana.
E-Mail: sergeantmore@hotmail.com.


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2009-12-08, 06:34:22
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2009-12-08, 09:05:22
anonymous from Canada  
Scammed not me I found out about the girl from russia...
2009-12-08, 12:28:36
OJAS from United States  
@Spanish speaking amigos http://www.delphifa..=71#185111
2009-12-09, 01:39:34
anonymous from United States  
phone 011233209181368 a scam ?????


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2009-12-09, 05:44:18
anonymous from Estonia  
Russian girls with no criminal records, and had job in 6 months can get schengenvisa for 3-6 months from some country inside Schengen-corperation, and that is the country where they do not need any person to guarantee for them as well. This visa can be used inside all coutry inside Schengen: Most country in western Europe, and inside EU is member of Schengen , but not UK. In one country do it cost 35€uro for 6 months visa, and you can mail me to know witch country this is. Will not tell it to the scammers, since they will send their own sister to prostitution in the west, if they smell money in it. They are the raths in the russian sosciety.
So if you have a schengenvisa from Norway (Norway need guarantist, and here can also small criminal get visa - since a Norwegian citicen must pay ) can you use it to travel over hole Europe like skiholiday in Sweden, shopping in Paris, and sunbathing in Greece.
Russian girls can get legal workingvisa as strippers, hotelworkers etc in several latino countries in Europe (Spain, Greece, Portugal and Italy) as well (often with a guaratist-person, and a sum toghether with the guarantist), and can get even passport afther 5 years
So if you meet desperate girls that tell they are Italian, or portugeese, might it often be a workingvisa, that is fed up to work.
Truls
trul5@hotmail.com
2009-12-09, 08:39:34
I am not WTC ! from Japan  
@guys !

I have found a Russian Scammer.
It is Sveta !
She has changed her alias !
http://www.club10.com/
( C10_showlady.? cycle=4&skala=inches&Input_LadyID=RL72187587&BioID=&vsrc=OrgOrganic&vcf=goo. com&vovkey=un&vsite=D17&vovraw=un&vmtype=&vpage=Index&vref=1f=1 )

her ID '' RL72187587 - marto4ka ''

Age: 23
D/Birth: 08/27/1986
Height: 5 ft 6 in
Weight: 104 lbs
Country: Ukraine
City: Sarny
Religion: Russian Orthodox
Education: University
Profession: student
Children: No Children
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2009-12-09, 08:44:20
not WTC from USA from Japan  
@guys !

Scammer !
ID '' RL72196191 - millerlove ''


http://www.club10.com/
( C10_showlady.? cycle=4&skala=inches&Input_LadyID=RL72196191&BioID=&vsrc=OrgOrganic&vcf=goo. com&vovkey=un&vsite=D17&vovraw=un&vmtype=&vpage=Index&vref=1f=1 )


Age: 28
D/Birth: 07/10/1981
Height: 5 ft 7 in
Weight: 185 lbs
Country: Australia
City: oatland
Religion: None
Education: Doctorate
Profession: volunteer teacher
Children: No Children
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2009-12-09, 08:47:03
not WTC in USA from Japan  
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scammer !
her ID '' RL72196541 - maria makiling ''
http://www.club10.com/
( C10_showlady.? cycle=4&skala=inches&Input_LadyID=RL72196541&BioID=&vsrc=OrgOrganic&vcf=goo. com&vovkey=un&vsite=D17&vovraw=un&vmtype=&vpage=Index&vref=1f=1 )


Age: 28
D/Birth: 12/23/1980
Height: 5 ft 4 in
Weight: 117 lbs
Country: Philippines
City: marawi city
Religion: Catholic
Education: College
Profession: none
Children: No Children
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