Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
@Hi 2009-12-18, 17:34:26 (updated: 2009-12-18, 18:06:49)
12345 from Sweden
Thank your for your efforts and reports.
but the photo you have put is so small.
I want to see the car number.
Can not you enlarge this photo?
If possible,please repost enlaged photo here. This image was also posted here: Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
12345 from Sweden
sorry i have 2 pics of that car and only this bad pic shows licensnumber...but i have a adress to where she staid in Holland and i have the adress i seent my personal info for the visa i Ghana....and i have so many more pics....but she also have pics of my family...am very worried about that
12345 from Sweden
Hope you can understand that i can´t write everything down here....Seens what am reading on this site that scammers and bad peaople also read then am getting very worried...i have so much to share but no way to tell....
12345 from Sweden
i tried to double the sice...i even tried to make it larger but it got to bad...am sorry...not very good on changing pics...
HOPE U A PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS SITE...like WANWAN AND AGENT 86 AND MISS MARPLE....AND BIG DOG....you save lifes...YOU SAVE LIFES......without some help from you, the rope would be the only way...cause you now about the embarcament you feel... you now about the pain...you now about all this things....i thought a kind man when the nfirst one caught me...then i was 'rescude'by this Miss Amoah who changed everything by showing her self.i was foold once again and that is very hard to write....so now i haw to trust people on this site...still if i looose trust....what do i have then!!!!!!!...i will always belive in the good in people, maybe i will choose diffrent way and stay away from bullshit Africa and Russia...
Thank you for staying strong and fight crime and help stupid people like me.......
If dont have the chance to say it later .......
MERRY CHRISMAS TO YOU, TO EVEYONE THAT EVER BEEN SCAMMED, WE WHERE JUST BEING GOOD PEOPLE......NOW AM THINGKING ITS GOOD TIME TO HEATR THEM BACK....i will try and read and learn from you ........
Some facts I read in your comment of 2009-12-18, 01:10:08 (updated: 2009-12-18, 01:13:29):
1. IP Address 18.104.22.168
IP address: 22.214.171.124
Reverse DNS: vfbb196169.4u.com.gh.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): GH [Ghana]
Country Currency: Unknown
Country IP Range: 126.96.36.199 to 188.8.131.52
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Accra, Greater Accra
Country (per outside source): GH [Ghana]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.afrinic.net
Known Proxy? No
Scammer-IP's are forged or hijacked. Sorry, no guarantee that this one is not forged. This IP is connected to IP 184.108.40.206. This IP is known as Spam-IP:
The Project Honey Pot system has detected behavior from the IP address consistent with that of a mail server and dictionary attacker. Below we've reported some other data associated with this IP. This interrelated data helps map spammers' networks and aids in law enforcement efforts. If you know something about this IP, please leave a comment.
The comment came from Sweden (was it you?). The name used with the addy was different (Olivia Asamoah). The girl in the picture could be the same.
3. The name 'Ann Angel'. Ann Angel is an American (Caucasian) pornstar. I am NOT saying that she is involved in this scamoperation. http://ann-angel.com/
My guess: You are victim of a Nigerian scammer, who used pics of his sister or wife (or any other girl in his town). Stop sending money. Never send money to people you don't know. Try to find peace of mind. And... Don't change. This planet needs every Good Man.
BadDog from Owensboro, United States
Thank YOU so much for your humbling praise for Miss Marple, Agent 86 and
We are also just victims of scamers with a little bit more education and
experience. AND an ATTITUDE!!! LOL
Be welcome. Listen to all the veteran posters...at this point too numerous to
individually...THANK GOD! So many have taken the time; contributed their
intelligence, common sense, expertise and hard work. We are volunteers only
but receive our reward when someone frees themself from the scammers
manipulation and control.
12345 you are so lucky to have found out now and not thousands of Kroners
later. There is no end to the money demands of a scammer. Just a black hole
for your money AND your emotions.
Thank you again! AND Merry Christmas!
ALSO to Dirk, Doc, OJAS, WanWan, Miss Marple, Agent 86, Steve_Dux, 007,
AGENT 110, Gilligan, RockStar, RealMadrid, Wolf and Venezolano. I know I have
missed someone but best I can do tonight. And thanks especially to our Admin
and benfactor: Mr. Peter Tiemann.
BadDog and the pack
54321wanwan from Japan
12345 from Sweden
Again ,it is me wan wan .
Thank you for your reports and efforts.
Please listen to Dirk & BadDog.
Please read Dirk's analyses on her.
African scammers love to use '' XXXXXangel@xxxxxcom ''.
If she was an innocent lady,
she did not take such funny e-mail address.
When you see those e-mail address like '' xxx_angel@xxxcom '' ,'' xxx_beauty@xxxcom '',
be careful !! It is a scam sign.
2)I know your anxiety.She also have your personal infos.So never post your personal infos on Delphi.
Never show your city.It is OK ?
3)Never send your money.
4)Have you ever used money transfer bank like Western Union ,Moneygram?
If so,please contact them.
And ask them about the branch where your scammer have picked up your money.
It will be the clue for you to know the place she(he) lives in .
Please contact money transfer bank quicker !
5)Keep playing innocent(play stupid).
Never say '' I know you are scammer ''.
Never make her(he?) anger.
Play innocent and when she(he?) asks for your money$$$,
never remit to her.Keep playing innocent.
6)If she says '' I will post your personal informations on internet '',
don't worry about such blackmail.
Blackmail is just only blackmail.
African scammers are very very busy in their scam business.
Time is MONEY for them.
They have no time to inform people of your personal infos.
It is just only their blackmail for scamming you forever.
Don't worry about such blackmail.
7) On Miss Marple
I will ask her to support you.
You can talk to her in Swedish.
We are waiting for you here.
But never send your money.
Jag tackar för din ödmjukhet,och jag hoppas att du kommer att
komma på rätt spår i livet snart igen.Vi är här för att hjälpa dig igenom
det här om du behöver det.Förståelsen är stor pga av våra egna erfarenheter
Är glad att du vill delge oss den informationen som du har gett oss och berättat
din egen erfarenhet för oss,och att du har fått insikten själv och fått den informa-
tionen som sökte efter,för något gjorde ju ändå trots allt att tvivlade på henne/
honom i det här..det är svårt att tro att sådant här händer,men du ska inte vara
rädd för att rapportera hit om det här,även om scammers besöker sidan så har du ju rät
att vara anonym här,och även om dina bilder hamnar på nätet så är det ingen som
känner igen dig i alla fall här,vi vet ju inte vem du är,..du är alltid välkommen
att besöka oss här på Delphi ,och som sagt vi finns här för att stötta dig i det här!!
Och jag hoppas att du får en Bra Jul trots allt!! Men för din egen skull bryt
kontakten helt ,det här är scammers som aldrig ger upp,det finns så horribla
historier som människor har fått uttstå pga av detta!!!Var rädd om dig!!
Varma Hälsningar Miss Marple
I thank you for youre humble words to us here at Delphi,and I hope you will come to the
right track soon in youre life,we are here to help you in this if you need,our
understanding is big because of the experinces we have ,we are all victims
in somehow.It is good that you have come to the sight in this and that you have found
the information that you needed.Something made you by instict an by reason that you
begun to hesitate by all this,it is very hard to believe such things happends like this
but you should not be afraid to make an repporting of this to delphi,and eventhough
youre pictures is coming out on the internet,we dont recognize you here and not
and people not in general either.Scammers do visit the site but that is not an danger for
you anyway.You can be anonymous.You are always welcome to visit Delphi anytime,and
as i said we are here to support you if you wish so.
I hope that you get an good christmas eventhough this
happening,but for youre own sake cut all further contact wit this scammer now,the
scammers will never give up ,there is such horrible stories of what victims have been
through...so please be carefull!
All regards //Miss Marple//
anonymous from Netherlands
I have in totall 11 pics of thát DARIYA KUDRESHOVA here is one what wasn`t shown here yet!!
she asked for additional money to come over to me!(400 EUR) and did pettetic words about paying for the visa (what`s inmpossible, when I read on this and other sites andselling things from her mother to get money and also paying all the last penney from herself to get so far.
Anyway , I saw here above alot of pics and for I have11 I can put one which wasn`t yet standing here...
I hope police will those scammers like Dariya and her 'MEN' take in and put down in jail!