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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-01-24, 09:09:37
ww from Japan  
@2010-01-24, 05:33:51
anonymous

LOL !
Hey ,,you ,,,Russian Scammer !
You have bad Testicles & a poor brain like spammer WTF in USA.
I enjoy your POOR comments here.
I am hunting Russian scammers and everyday I am bothering your friends ,LOL !
Your friends ,Russian scammers trust me and they email me back .
They says '' I love you so much ,my honey Gerropa !!''.

Off course I email them back and I am also saying '' I love you ,too ''.
Your stupid Russian scammers send me photos,letters.
I can waste your stupid friend's time,LOL !
A fucker '' Lilia '' has been writting to me 200 love letters over,LOL !
Plus I don't read those fucking love letters.
Your Russian friends don't know my tactics.
Many stupid Russian scammers have been emailing me but I never read those letters,LOL !
Your stupid friends,have lost their time,LOL !
I put my e-mail addresses in so many Dating sites,
and I am getting stupid scammers like you,LOL !
Teasing your russian stupid friends is VERY enjoyable for me.
Fun !

Yesterday and today I have found your stupid russian scammers on net and
I am teasing them,LOL !


Today was a lot of fun.


I know your russian stupid scammers will email me and will say '' I love you,my honey '' ,LOL !



Russian scammers are so stupid like you,I know that already.


Loser in Russia !
Go fuck yourself !
And kiss my as*hole


Stupid like WTF aka Peter Poorper in USA.
You are scammer & spammer like this photo below.
a poor guy in Russia.



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2010-01-24, 09:53:24   (updated: 2010-01-24, 09:54:04)
007 from United Kingdom  
@2010-01-23, 11:20:31
anonymous
@2010-01-23, 12:15:05
anonymous from United Kingdom

007
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2010-01-24, 09:55:40
007 from United Kingdom  
2010-01-24, 13:04:37
anonymous from Japan  
@all spammers and scammers in the world

My name is Ali Demir in Turky .
My hobby is collection of nude photos.
So please fuck me and kiss me ,OK ?
Please email me back quicker !
Thank you !



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I hope your comp is attacked by thousands of scammers / spammers asshole.

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2010-01-24, 14:06:54
DOC from United States  
@wanwan,

LOL ! You missed a few threads!!! LOL !!! Thank You !!



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2010-01-24, 18:06:14
ww from Japan  
@DOC

Hi !
Yes I could not see any fu*king posts from Wild? Turky,LOL !
When I came to Delphi,his poor posts had gone,gone,gone !
What a pity !

But I know you have done a good job !
Keep it up !

Thank you !
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2010-01-25, 08:08:37
anonymous  
funny
2010-01-25, 08:46:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
no really its strange))) u know how i found this page?)) i just wanted to translate my favorie words : The woman has occurred from an edge of the man. Not from a foot to be humiliated. Not from a head to surpass.
But from a side to be side by side with you to be equal with you. From under hands to be protected. And from heart to be favourite.

well its already my translation... but when i put these words in original text (russian) in translator it gave me some different meaning....so i put it in google search and i found this page (if u dont believe u may do this)


but guys come on....its really rare to find a NORMAL girl on ''meeting websides''. of course more profiles are fake!!!

only personal contact only personal communication...i dont know...icq...skype...mobile....but not stupid emails...i'm just surprised that u make all these discussioons...and i dont really like that scammers exist...ok smb may make fun of it...but some people may really trust...and its not so nice....

and yes i admit...scamming its a business in russia....its not right....but it exist....but real girls in rusiia are really nice, kind and sincere....u may believe or not...just may be u need to find them in the right place...

best regars to u guys
2010-01-25, 10:41:49
Miss Marple from Sweden  
@2010-01-25, 08:46:56
anonymous from United Kingdom

You probably came to this site when you got an hit of an template from an russian scammer,no we dont believe that Russian people in general are bad and that the real russian woman is bad,becuase the scams are not made by any real women anyway and we only judge the criminals who make this dissaster to people,and you know google is not the best way to make translations in either,indeed is an help for the novis of course.
There is lot of different needs in this world and it is very common that people seeks for love on the internet nowadays,we live in changing and modern world and internet is available soon for almost all,it is an easy way to meet people and get together and to date people also in different communitys,that finding someone in a pub ore other social activities is not easy way either,as we live in society with lot of stress and actually dont take time to meet people in that way as it was before,so internet is available for many now.And unfortunately they get also in contact with scammers ,so it is very easy to get in a trap that you never wished for.So yes people must get aware of this sort of scams and also protect them selves from this horrible scams.So information and by repporting scammers is an good way to get people aware of this sort of crimes.

Regards //Miss Marple//
2010-01-26, 04:24:00
anonymous from Japan  
@ FAKE 2010-01-25, 08:46:56
anonymous from United Kingdom


1)register your e=address with Delphi
2)log in
3)show your real city ,country.

Why you tried hiding yourself from us?
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2010-01-26, 12:55:18   (updated: 2010-01-26, 12:55:44)
wanwan from Japan  

Hello my love ___!!!
My dear how are you?
How your health?
Why do not you write me?
I very much miss your letters.
My dear if I do not get your letter.
I am very worried.
Please write me.
I very much look forward to.
Your Liliya.

IP Information - 188.186.2.69IP address: 188.186.2.69
Reverse DNS: net2.186.188-69.tmn.ertelecom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net2.186.188-69.tmn.ertelecom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.2.69
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http://www.trusteds..8.186.2.69


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2010-01-26, 13:10:10
wanwan from Japan  
(My ? Lilia=Liliya emailed me back 200 love letters over!!!! But those were NOT love letters but were just only Collections of Money .)



Hello my love Gerropa!!!
What are you doing? As the weather you have?
I'm all good. Weather we become colder with each passing day.
My dear Gerropa!!! I was very pleased to receive your letter. I immediately rose up.
My dear, I love you. My Dear Gerropa!!! I am pleased that you will send money through another system of remittances.
Dear Gerropa!!! you will be sent via Western Union? If you send via Western Union, do not forget to send me a copy of the form.
Just send me a copy in large quantities, so that I can read what is written well.
Sweet how much time you have that you could send the money?
Dear me, I look forward to this. My dear, I just write all the true good. Your name is your full.
Country and city where you live. Completely specify the amount of money that you sent me.
And the code (MTCN). I will wait. Dear me, I love you, and a firm.
You are my biggest love and I want to be with you as soon as possible.
Your love Liliya.



IP Information - 188.186.3.145IP address: 188.186.3.145
Reverse DNS: net3.186.188-145.tmn.ertelecom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net3.186.188-145.tmn.ertelecom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): -- []
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.3.145

http://www.trusteds..186.3.145


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2010-01-26, 22:55:42
anonymous from Canada  
Further to the anonymous post from Canada above of Vera Saukina and milrozzi@hotmail.com I have looked up IP's etc as Japan guy recommended and this is what I got, but dont know what it means:
IP address: 188.187.143.27
Reverse DNS: net143.187.188-27.yoladom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net143.187.188-27.yoladom.ru. does not exist]
McAffee's site only showed the domain as 'unverified'. I've now looked through 9,000 photos of scammers and cannot find the girl or email address black listed. I've been invited with happiness to Russia to meet her mother and spoken more times on the phone. How the heck can this be a scam if I go there to meet her? I don't get it.
2010-01-27, 05:16:27
OJAS from United States  
@Canada, Delay your legwork till homework is completed http://www.delphifa..p=1#39950
http://dailymail.co..le-542276
http://it.truveo.co..464935977

After you complete your research, good luck to you! http://www.delphifa..285#151078
2010-01-28, 02:32:54
OJAS from United States  
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