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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-01-28, 20:25:06
anonymous from Switzerland  
2010-01-29, 01:13:19
wanwan from Japan  
@spammer like WTF in USA
2010-01-28, 23:50:16
mohammad fucker like WTF_derakh@yahoo.conman from Iran


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2010-01-29, 08:58:51
OJAS from United States  
Following up on my earlier post, if you have a secure computer, check if these are the profiles in that article.
BE VERY CAREFUL, DO NOT LET BORIS SEE YOUR COMPUTER. (venezolano posted that he was spammed by their gang)
http://ruladys.com/..ofile/231
http://ruladys.com/..rofile/163
2010-01-31, 22:45:11
Bombers4Life from Canada  
Anybody hear from traci fuller699 at yahoo. claims from dating site to be from gloucester, ontario but working in nigeria--of course! sent me sexy pictures, but must be scammer!!! poor heartbroken girl, that sends pics in her panties!!! HaHa......
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2010-01-31, 22:45:13
Bombers4Life from Canada  
Anybody hear from traci fuller699 at yahoo. claims from dating site to be from gloucester, ontario but working in nigeria--of course! sent me sexy pictures, but must be scammer!!! poor heartbroken girl, that sends pics in her panties!!! HaHa......
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2010-02-01, 03:55:21
OJAS from United States  
Bombers4Life, There is a tineye hit on your pic.

Install http://tineye.com as an add-on to your browser. You can then right-click on pix in the web, or in your comp. After you save a jpg from an email, you can test them as well.

Some picture search tips http://www.delphifa..=54#141063
2010-02-05, 06:13:27
RealMadrid from Spain  
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Ciao amico mio!

Spero di poter nome che 'il mio amico'?

My name is Anastasiya.

Scusa, ho mal conoscono l'italiano.

Ho chiesto all'Ufficio conoscenza al fine di trovare il mio amore.
Mi auguro che questo ufficio mi aiutera a soddisfare il mio amore e un uomo del mio sogno.
Ho in programma, per creare una famiglia heathy amichevole con un uomo serio, che sarebbe l'amore e mi proteggera.
Se siete soli e vogliono trovare una donna amorosa si Scrivimi
e siamo in grado di associare a ogni altro.

Se siete interessati nella mia vita mi scrivi sulla mia e-mail: kerpanamila@rambler.ru

Io vi rispondo e invio i miei molte foto.
Sono una donna bella e intelligente.
Sarete felici di sapere di me.

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2010-02-05, 07:19:04
DonaldTrumps from Australia  
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This is for general information about Russian women and travel outside of Russia.
It is a common misperception that :
just remember that russian woman cannot get permission to leave Russia unless it is on a marriage visa

I personally know three Russian women who regularly travel to various places around the world. Their travel has nothing to do with work or anything else. They travel as tourists.

Russian women in most major centres have no difficulty getting a Russian Passport or a Shenzen Visa to travel Europe. Once they have done this, they can get a visa to almost anywhere else.

For the USA and Canada, they do require additional financial security. But Europe, Asia, Africa, China, Malaysia, and the Carribian are no problem.

However, women from more remote areas do have some difficulty. But a very few dollars in the right hands can take care of that.
Most of the other former Soviet Block countries do have heavy restrictions on the travel of un-accompanied young ladies. Their rules vary, but they generally require a large financial security.

Just don't apply blanket rules to all Russian women from everywhere in Russia.
Take care.
2010-02-05, 07:23:48
DonaldTrumps from Australia  
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Addition to my last post.

I do know one Russian woman who is refused travel outside Russia.
Her father is in the military and the entire family is prohibited from travel over the borders.
It is regarded as a security risk.

This is the kind of reason that SOME women are refused foreign travel by the Russian authorities.
2010-02-05, 10:46:01
anonymous from United States  



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2010-02-05, 11:19:38
RealMadrid from Spain  
Friday, February 5, 2010
Friends do not believe me! Hello! Tatyana would not use invalid ID if she/he was real A SCAM
The scammer also sent the other email. How do I know? the photo tag had 'Mi' included
Too much of a coincidence?

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Hello!

My name is Tatyana !

I am an interesting, beautiful, kind and single young lady. I want to find my love, my half and want to marry him. I am looking for a man who will fall in love with me and I will fall in love with him. I have never been married but I dream about it. I am fond of children and I dream about a happy family with the beloved man. I am interested in music, cooking, reading, traveling and others. I know English very good and can easily speak it.

If you are interested in me please write me only to my personal e-mail: XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Please write me and I will send you my photos.

Please answer only to my personal e-mail: Shaboldaya@yahoo.com

I wait for your letter very much

Tatyana


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2010-02-05, 12:24:43
OJAS from United States  
2010-02-05, 19:46:32
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
2010-02-06, 13:43:32
OJAS from United States  
@Donald,

Any Russian can travel abroad, if without
1) criminal record including pending suits
2) national secrets

They will need an International, bilingual passport. Their internal Cyrillic ONLY passport allows them to travel ONLY to Belarus, Abkhazzia, and Ossetia.
2010-02-06, 17:30:36
anonymous from Salt Lake City, United States  
It seems that I, too, have been targeted by these 'Russian' scammers. It looked suspicious to begin with. But now that I have seen this scammer web site, I can see clearly that my hope of the possibility of their stories being true are exactly what they are preying upon.
Two of them have lured me into conversing with them by e-mail. I was somewhat suspicious of how they could have such professional portfolios of pictures. And now it all makes sense. Thank you for creating this site to help potential dupes like me avoid being duped.
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