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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-02-10, 14:19:50
wanwan from Japan  
@Dirk

I show you my bike.
Here it is.
My taste is too bad ?


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2010-02-10, 15:42:00
OJAS from United States  
Gracias amigo JJ. See N° 6 http://www.delphifa..15#168004

PS. How are Joda Joda doing? :-)
2010-02-11, 07:57:22
anonymous from United States  
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cecil boateng: Be far from this person


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2010-02-11, 07:58:33
anonymous from United States  
cecil boateng be far from her


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2010-02-11, 08:11:12
anonymous  
to finish with Cecil Boateng avoid this email address cecil020@live.com!!!
See Also page 234
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Dating scammer Natalya from Osinniki, Russia



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2010-02-11, 08:12:20
anonymous  
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to finish with Cecil Boateng avoid this email address cecil020@live.com!!!
See Also page 234



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2010-02-11, 09:55:35   (updated: 2010-02-11, 09:59:35)
JJ from Spain  
Hallo Ojas!! thanks for the link, you are right.
Well in Spanish JJ is read as ¡¡Jota, Jota!!. Joda Joda, means an other think, dear friend ¡¡Fuck!!, ask to Real Madrid, he can tell you as well, don't worry anyhow, I'm not offended. Hasta la vista, see you soon. JJ
2010-02-11, 13:13:37
OJAS from United States  
Oops! Sorry my friend, JJ. An innocent looking error could create problems. Thanks for your understanding, that I meant no offense.
2010-02-12, 09:08:00
ww from Japan  
2010-02-13, 10:53:40
anonymous from Sweden  
Thanks a lot Eddie because I have been scammed for months !I was about to send money to a Russian woman who was scamming me with this number 0012126600059.
Thanks a lot man for you research!
2010-02-13, 11:58:40
DOC from United States  
Hej anonymous from Sweden !

Glad you sent NO money !
Please post some more information on that scammer.

1) Email address used
2) Photos used
3) Sender IP address
4) X-mailer

Posting more info may save others from being a victim to this scammer.

Regards, DOC
2010-02-13, 22:22:06
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Quote :does anyone knows this scamer from riga latvia but lives in stockholm.
she made me loose 500$. she is LINDA JANELSINA, HER EMAIL 1. JANELSINA.LINDA@GMAIL.COM AND 2. PRIVATE. ASSISTANT.PA@GMAIL.COM .
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I do indeed know ,Linda Janelsina, originally from Sweden, as she used to be on the frype forum a Latvian website.
She speaks about 5 languages and has the most seductive long legs.
I found her quite enchanting and a little AC/DC but hey ho , we all have our idiosyncratic ways.
How did she cost you $500 ?


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2010-02-14, 00:33:43   (updated: 2010-02-14, 00:36:03)
wanwan from Japan  

Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru
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Lilialovekiss@rambler.ru To 自分
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Hello my love Gerropa!!!!
I am pleased to once again receive your letter.
I saw that picture you sent.
Today I'll go to the bank to get money that you sent me.
My dear Gerropa!!! I will write to you after receiving the money well.
Dear Gerropa!! I hope this time everything will be fine and will not be problems with the translation.
My dear, I firmly thee whole.
Your Liliya.

Note!

Today I'll go to the bank to get money that you sent me.

Stupid !
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IP Information - 188.186.0.65IP address: 188.186.0.65
Reverse DNS: net0.186.188-65.tmn.ertelecom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net0.186.188-65.tmn.ertelecom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41682
ASN Name: ERTH-TMN-AS (CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Tyumen')
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.0.65



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2010-02-14, 00:45:22   (updated: 2010-02-14, 00:47:05)
wanwan from Japan  

Hello my love Gerropa!!!
How are you today? How your health?
My dear Gerropa!! you walked in contact to redirect the money to me?
Dear me, I waited the whole day today your letter.
Love my hope that you will very soon send me money through WESTERN UNION.
I hope very much to you and will wait for a response.
Your Liliya.

IP Information - 188.186.22.226IP address: 188.186.22.226
Reverse DNS: [Timeout]
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Unknown]
ASN: 0
ASN Name: IANA-RSVD-0
IP range connectivity: 0
Registrar (per ASN): Unknown
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.22.226
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http://www.trusteds..186.22.226


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2010-02-15, 11:49:36
*Jim*scam*hunter* from United States  
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Hi everyone

Just wanted to let all of you who are dating online a hint that you may be dating a scamer . . . . From all the women that I have had contact with online, they only have one care. And that is money. So how do you know? Try this trick on them. Tell them you been in a bad car accident and are pain and can't work. If they are a scamer they will not show much emotion for you. They will even ask when can you send them money . . . I should have see this pattern earlier but failed to see it. Anyhow you can use this trick in your dating fun...

Best Regards,

*scam*hunter*Jim*
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Dating scammer Becky Martin



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