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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-02-15, 12:26:43
anonymous from Italy  
hello boys, someone can help me? do you know this girl? Is she a scammer? thanks to all...


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2010-02-15, 15:11:24
OJAS from United States  
2010-02-16, 12:22:05   (updated: 2010-02-16, 12:26:47)
*scam*hunter*Jim* from United States  
HEY WANWAN
DId u ever see that girl that is posted above me before???,
2010-02-18, 05:01:17
Rui from Portugal  
Thanks Derrick for all your helpfull posts. I soon realised I am being scammed. But now I am playing with the scammer. Of course, I will never send any picture. I want to learn more about them.

Cheers!
2010-02-18, 10:28:29
OJAS from United States  
2010-02-19, 06:11:52
JJ from Spain  
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Hallo to everybody, now I enclose two letters from an scammer using a new system to try to swindler, I can't understand how stupids are those Russians, so you are dismissed from work and on top you must pay to the boss???, who is going to believe this story!! unless she stole this money and that's the reason why she has been throw out of work. Anyhow an other system to try to get easy money. Ah, this is the fifth letter I receive from 'her'. 'She said living in Omsk, Russia, but the EMail is coming from Yoshkar-Ola as usual after using five different IP. Well fellows keep the eyes wide open and take care of the scammers as Doc says never send money!! JJ

Hello!!!
Many thanks for your letter my love!!! Please forgive me, that I not to answer you so long. I to have awfully bad news my sweet, today me to dismiss with work as today still to count up the goods and at
me to turn out shortage even more, at simple to go mad and sit now to cry as the chief to tell that I should
compensate to it within 2 days of 270 dollars, I not to know that to me to do as I not to have this money.......................
I not to wish to live at all as all is very bad, who so can make to me? Who that to steal and substitute me and the partner,
he to speak that if I not to return it money within 2 days that it will go and write the statement on me in militia!!
My favourite it is very a shame to me and it is very inconvenient but I simply do not have other exit,
I to wish to ask you my favourite what you to gain me and to give me 270 dollars as you my last hope and only
you now can rescue me, I love you very strongly and ask you please help me for God's sake!! I just to go to church
and to pray, I to ask the god about the help!!
My dear I even now cannot print as at me very strongly to shiver hands and to me it is very bad as I now to sit and cry,
to me awfully badly wash an angel!!
My dear please if you can to ask that you for God's sake to help me I ASK YOU to promise PLEASE to you that
I to return all to you even with percent as I will be arranged on work and to work and give you all money which to
earn only please to help me!! Simply the chief wash Vladimir it to tell that it to plant me in prison if I not to
return it money, I not to know as to speak to the parents about it as I will know that they to die if they to
learn about it, and I the nobility that at my parents was not present money, I not to know any more to whom to address my dear!!!!
I love you all heart and I should go now and try to calm down!!!!
please to help me I ask for God's sake!!
I will write you tomorrow my favourite!!
Your love Ekaterina!!!
______________________________
After 50 minutes later from the first letter!!:

My sweet I so it is upset, I not to know what to do! I need to pay my
chief of 270 dollars! My sweet I ask you, please to help me! I to beg
you!!! I love you!!! PLEASE to RESCUE me!!! If you really to love me
and wish to be with me please to help me! I have learnt as you can
translate money! You can translate money through the Western union or
you can come on site Westernunion.com and translate money online!!!
Please my sweet to help me, I ask you! I to give you this money back
within one week! To translate money to you it is necessary to know my
data, here they.
Ekaterina Zyabkina,
Russia,
Omsk, 644000,
street Shkolnaya 28, apartment 40.
I very much hope you to understand all situation! And to do today
remittance, please!!! I LOVE YOU! I very much hope that you already to
make more soon remittance, tomorrow last day, I need to return more
soon money my chief! I will be today at the girlfriend and I will
often check from you letters! I LOVE YOU! Ekaterina

_____________________________________

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IP 72.249.41.33 Dallas, Texas (USA)
IP 192.168.111.13 Marina del Rey Cal. (USA)
IP 188.187.162.162. Yoshkar Ola (RUS.)
IP 76.104.101.208 Charlotsville Virginia (USA)
Very good long travel this EMail.!!



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2010-02-19, 10:24:25
anonymous from Canada  
todays letter from it working me none of my questions answered from previous letter

---- as your day? I hope, that after reception of my letter to you
it becomes better. My mum, girlfriends and a cat transfer you
greetings. Today on work when I have already stopped to work and all
tried to leave more likely. And me all asked where where, I hurry up.
I hurried up in the Internet of cafe to receive more likely your
letter.
---- I by the way wished to ask you as you concern to what I work as
the masseur? You like my trade? Or not? How you think? I not vainly
studied to make massage?
I would like to show you all medical massages and not only. But I do
not know, whether you will want? ----- you would like to try? You would
like to try which massages?
---- I make massage to mum, and the grandmother with girlfriends
also. And they always remain happy. I think, what too it would be
pleasant to you? ----- and you could make massage to me if I have
asked you? I would like to feel, how your strong and caring hands
caress my body and I am assured, that to me it would become much
better, if I could feel it.
----- I send you kisses. When you receive them as you feel yourself?
Well? You like they? Or you would like to feel them in a reality? I
would like to kiss you on the present.
You considered stars in the sky? There it is a lot of them, so much
time I wish to kiss you. You agree?
----- I feel that you become irreplaceable in my life. I understand it
now. It is so much all between us has already occured. We communicate
not for long, but already you became for me the close person, yes you
are far but I think that soon it will change.
I send you a photo on which I I in cafe also wait hot tea, and the
girlfriend has made a photo that it would make your day happy and you
did not think that I very far. Also that my letter would warm your heart.
Yours and only your sincere and gentle Tatyana

there you have it guys tailor made she won't send her vital information after 3 requests

say cheese baby

nony
2010-02-19, 10:43:16
anonymous from Canada  
say cheese for yahoo personals my poor stolen picture of young beautiful darling

please don't be too mad at me for loving you

your distant lover

nony




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2010-02-19, 12:15:41
ww from Japan  
@2010-02-16, 12:22:05 (updated: 2010-02-16, 12:26:47)
*scam*hunter*Jim* from United States


Hi JIM !!!
Welcome your back !
I hope you had a good time with your Russian Testicles?
By the way,sorry I have never seen your girl before.
I tried seaching for your girl by Google but I could not !




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2010-02-19, 12:22:30
wanwan from Japan  
@2010-02-19, 06:11:52
JJ from Spain





http://www.trusteds..4.101.208

IP Information - 76.104.101.208IP address: 76.104.101.208
Reverse DNS: c-76-104-101-208.hsd1.va.comcast.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Verified]
ASN: 21508
ASN Name: COMCAST-21508
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): ARIN
Country (per IP registrar): US [United States]
Country Currency: USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range: 76.96.0.0 to 76.127.255.255
Country fraud profile: Normal
City (per outside source): Charlottesville, Virginia
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 76.104.101.208

2010-02-19, 17:17:37
wanderer from United Kingdom  
i am wondering if tis travelling agency really exist i try to found it on google earth could not found it so i need help i think is a scammer but not srue so if i put the adress down some one may be able to help please the email adress is travelruss@mail.ru the adress is kazan street tazi gizzata the house 3 office 207 i received an email from them the name of the manager is marina so any advice
2010-02-19, 18:27:43
Dirk from Heerlen, Netherlands  
Wanderer,

Nothing on the info you post. But... I found another company in Tazi Gizzata Str. in Kazan. It should be near the one you post. Contact them and ask about Marina's Travel Agency. They should know.

Company name: LLC Center of professional cosmetics «Christina»
Address: 6/31 Tazi Gizzata str., Kazan
Phone/Fax: (843) 526-02-36
E-mail: christina-k@bk.ru


http://www.christin..tors.html

2010-02-20, 01:22:14
OJAS from United States  
Nony, Boris usually don't read mails till the money letter http://www.delphifa..p=13#39806
2010-02-20, 04:07:56
anonymous from United States  
lany is albina
mariaschar@ymail.com


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2010-02-20, 10:53:23
wanwan from Japan  

Hello my love Gerropa!!!
My dear I am glad that you wrote me.
I am glad your letter.
Dear me, I will wait for you send me money.
I love you.
Your Liliya.



**
IP Information - 188.186.7.207IP address: 188.186.7.207
Reverse DNS: net7.186.188-207.tmn.ertelecom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net7.186.188-207.tmn.ertelecom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41682
ASN Name: ERTH-TMN-AS (CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Tyumen')
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.7.207




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