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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-02-24, 17:27:29
nony from Canada  
can someone please explain the policy reguarding russian women traveling abroad
out of russia europe holland for example to meet etc and to canada for work visas and marriage etc

i'm getting worked over

thanks
nony
2010-02-24, 20:50:29
OJAS from United States  
@nony, use the search banner at the top, it took hardly a few seconds using your own words http://www.delphifa..tml#56706

When you find updated info, post for your next compatriot.
Thanks
2010-02-24, 22:59:40
Scambay Terr  
2010-02-25, 07:45:15
anonymous from United Kingdom  
FAKE FAKE FAKE FAKE


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2010-02-25, 10:20:29   (updated: 2010-02-25, 10:20:59)
OJAS from United States  
Thanks Scambay.

@Canadian newbies to this site http://google.com/s..%2Fenglish
2010-02-25, 10:40:10
ww from Japan  
@2010-02-25, 07:45:15
anonymous from United Kingdom

I did made her brighter.


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2010-02-25, 20:14:00
anonymous from United States  
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Dude this russian girl started e-mailing me off my craigs list post started saying she was comeing to my city soon and wanted to meet she sent me tons of pics and then out of no where started talking bout sex found out shes a scammer it was way too good to be true she said her name was tatyanna nanova age 27 she said she was gonna get to my city in this week not gonna meet her though she doesn't even know my hole name
2010-02-26, 11:24:04
shm from United States  
I am talking to one right now.....is there any way to track the email???
2010-02-26, 11:48:15
wanwan from Japan  
2010-02-26, 11:53:34
wanwan from Japan  
@2010-02-26, 11:24:04
shm from United States

1)open her mail header

2)use this tool
http://www.ip2locat..acer.aspx

Copy her mail header infos then paste that one on there tool
You can extract her real sender IP address


3)when you can find her IP address,please use this tool
http://www.dnsstuff..type=free
「enter IP 」

4)
finally you can know that IP's reputations
http://www.trusteds../feedback


By the way,
you can find X-mailer '' The Bat xxxx ''
2010-02-26, 14:16:52   (updated: 2010-02-26, 14:21:14)
shm from United States  
yeah I am glad I checked on this at first I was not sure because I have joined lots of dating sites. now I am sure this is a scam...people are lazy scum these days dont want to work. here is a image of what I think is a model. this person's name is suppose to be natalia born in murom russia..province of vladimir.


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2010-02-26, 14:53:49
JHF2 from France  
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Could someone tell me if the passport is real and not tampered.
Thank you


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2010-02-27, 21:13:02
OJAS from United States  
@JHF2
Usually when the bottom is blanked, passports are forged.

International passports MUST be in at least 2 languages.
US, Canada, UK use English and French.

A Cyrillic ONLY Russian passport is an internal document. It can also be used for travel to Belarus, Abkhazzia, Ossetia, but NO OTHER COUNTRY!
2010-02-28, 05:22:10
JHF3 from France  
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Ojas thank you for that clarification. Miss would come in France with that passport! I think I like a good scam!
She said she is already coming to Spain with the passport!
This image was also posted here:
Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers



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2010-03-02, 09:11:33   (updated: 2010-03-02, 09:12:11)
ww from Japan  

hello my love Gerropa!!!
I am very glad that you wrote me.
Dear me, I so missed your letters.
I waited your letter with the more eagerly.
I am very pleased that you are able to send me money through Western Union.
My Dear Gerropa!! I am writing you a letter that I can not see the MTCN.
My dear, if you can send me MTCN as soon as possible, then I very much look forward to.
I hope that you will send all quickly.
Your Liliya.

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IP Information - 188.186.6.172IP address: 188.186.6.172
Reverse DNS: net6.186.188-172.tmn.ertelecom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net6.186.188-172.tmn.ertelecom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41682
ASN Name: ERTH-TMN-AS (CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Tyumen')
IP range connectivity: 1
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Unknown
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.186.6.172



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