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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-03-21, 15:15:31
anonymous from Estonia  
On the last girl, mention that her nose is not going straight down, since it is quite commond haircoloure over hole old USSR
So best way to recognise is to nook at her nose, if it is not straight down
2010-03-24, 10:42:03
wontbhad from United States  
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anyone recognize this girl?


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2010-03-24, 20:24:33
wontbhad from United States  
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2010-03-24, 20:31:11   (updated: 2010-03-24, 20:37:31)
jmartineau@yaknet.ca  
I send a e-mail about a girl name Marina I didn't want to put her picture there I was asking about her maybe she's not a spam girl please remove the pictureThank you


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2010-03-24, 22:49:43
Scambay Terr  
This girl is famouse, and she have between her big TV shows scammed a total kind pensionist in Norway


TV stars from any country do not need email scams to make money. Somebody else is using her pictures. Scammers are almost always men.
2010-03-25, 12:06:49
wontbhad from United States  
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anyone recognize this girl?


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2010-03-26, 03:02:31
ww from Japan  
@2010-03-25, 12:06:49
wontbhad from United States


See her mail header infos .
IP

Then look up that one.
2010-03-26, 10:04:46
wontbhad from United States  
WW
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wontbhad from United States


'See her mail header infos .
IP

Then look up that one.'


How do I find her IP ?
I have clicked on her email address and a whole page of info comes up and it is very confusing -to me, anyway.
Thanks for your help.
2010-03-26, 14:34:29
wanwan from Japan  
@2010-03-26, 10:04:46
wontbhad from United States

Hey !! Are you fine and have a good day ? I hope so.

1)please open her mail header informations
And copy full her mail header infos !
Then paste that one on there
http://www.ip2locat..acer.aspx
You can get the IP addresses flow chart.
Please see that 1st sender IP address.
It is a clue for you to find she is a scammer or not.

2)When you get her 1st sender IP address ,please copy that one,
and put that one on this web tool
http://www.dnsstuff..type=free
You can find these words '' IP Information Shows info about an IP '',
put her sender IP address then click there !
You can find her DNS infos.

Please see this.
This is my Russian scammer Maria.
Now I play stupid and I say '' I love you my honey ''.
It is Maria's infos,here
*****************
IP Information - 188.187.157.244IP address: 188.187.157.244
Reverse DNS: net157.187.188-244.yoladom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net157.187.188-244.yoladom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41786
ASN Name: ERTH-YOLA-AS (CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Yoshkar-Ola)
IP range connectivity: 2
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 188.186.0.0 to 188.187.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Milton, Wisconsin
Country (per outside source): US [United States]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No
Link for WHOIS: 188.187.157.244

**********************
My Maria is a Russian scammer!!


Plus,,,,,,
do you find X-mailer in her mail header ?
If you can find the X-mailer '' The Batxxxxxxxx '',
your girl can be a scammer.


see you soon.
mata-ne!

2010-03-27, 03:28:29   (updated: 2010-03-27, 03:31:07)
Dirk from Kerkrade, Netherlands  
@wontbhad from United States,

So you'd like to to find out just who is sending those email love letters, determine the sender of a blackmail message, or just root out the source of a virus emailed to you. There are indeed many such situations where you would like to know who sent a particular email message to you. This article will teach you how to use 'Email Headers' to backtrack and find the original sender's IP address. Don't worry, it's not rocket science. If it were, SPAM would still only be canned meat and an amusing Monty Python skit!


http://www.johnru.c..mail.html

2010-03-27, 20:43:04
anonymous from United Kingdom  
My name is Andres and I have recently been scammed by this girl called Anita Addae from Bennin that said she was living and working in ghana. She was very convincing all the way througth by asking for certain amounts of money. In a period of three months her mother had an accident and needed help with the costs. She needed money for the passport,uk visa and papers by then I had already sent much more than I had anticipated and then decided to terminate it when she asked for £ 7.000 by MSN to give to her agent so that when she was here he would send it back to me. She does still calls me on my mobile but I no longer answer it because I know the code from ghana even when she tries with diferent numbers but they all originate from ghana.
This was the last email she sent me before I blocked her and changed to a diferent hotmail account because of her.
I hope that by me writing this others will be aware of her.

Name........Anita Addae
Country......Ghana
City............Accra
Zip code..00233
Bank......Western Union

If only I had known that you were out there, then I could have been searching long before I met you. If only I had known that there was a man like you, I could have searched the ends of the earth. If only I had known that I would someday meet someone like you, who give me everything, would do anything for me, gives me all his love - I could have done anything and everything in my power to find you sooner. But now that I have found you, I will never let you go, because of you, all my wishes and dreams have come true. stay bless and take care
THANK YOU
ANITA ADDAE

She contacted me on Badoo social web site. This are some of the photos that she sent me, one with her supposed mother.


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2010-03-27, 20:51:16
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Another photo of her.


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2010-03-27, 20:52:56
anonymous from United Kingdom  
another


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2010-03-27, 20:54:08
anonymous from United Kingdom  
more


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2010-03-27, 21:10:27
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Still have some others but with this one's I think you can see what she looks like and be alerted because she is a SCAMMER going by the name of Anita Addae and Addai also.
She has visited my new web page in Badoo and I reported her to the site.
She has since sent me a text message saying that the they caught the fraudsters that hacked into her email when she whent to the internet cafe. I hope that she is as worried as I was and one day will get what she deserves, because I would never and will never do that to any person and I don't know how the can live with it.


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