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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2010-05-23, 02:30:52
anonymous  
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2010-05-23, 02:42:44
Dirk from Kerkrade, Netherlands  
Meine Stadt heißt Kirov.


IP address: 109.195.81.144
Reverse DNS: net81.195.109-144.yoladom.ru.
Reverse DNS authenticity: [Could be forged: hostname net81.195.109-144.yoladom.ru. does not exist]
ASN: 41786
ASN Name: ERTH-YOLA-AS (CJSC 'Company 'ER-Telecom' Yoshkar-Ola)
IP range connectivity: 2
Registrar (per ASN): RIPE
Country (per IP registrar): RU [Russian Federation]
Country Currency: RUR [Russia Rubles]
Country IP Range: 109.194.0.0 to 109.195.255.255
Country fraud profile: High
City (per outside source): Yoshkar-Ola, Mariy-El
Country (per outside source): RU [Russian Federation]
Private (internal) IP? No
IP address registrar: whois.arin.net
Known Proxy? No


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2010-05-24, 08:41:29
anonymous from Lugansk, Ukraine  
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2010-05-27, 03:25:35
hawkkhan from Pakistan  
i m receiving daily love mailfrom this girleveginyafrom smara russia.plz helpme that is she a scamer


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2010-05-27, 20:17:39
anonymous from Japan  



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2010-05-28, 03:51:23
anonymous from Ukraine  
Dear Gentlemen!
I just don't undersatnd you!!!! Why do you still continue writing to Russian/Ukrainian women???
You say that they are scammers, liars, faruds etc. You say that almost all profiles and women are fake, it is almost impossible to find a real honest woman here? Why then you write to them?????????? Why???
Then you start detective searches, yuo create scammer detecting sites, you write there, ask for advice, give 'great' advice to others. Sometimes it seems to me that you just like the process.
Why are you so obcessed by these Russian women? Are they special? Do you really want to have a Russian wife? What is so special and good for a foreigner in a Russian wife?
They are just women like millions of women all over the world.
Aren't there in USA/Canada/ Western Europe smart intelligent women??????????
I will never belive in it, as I know that there are great women there!
I know for sure that 90% of so called Russian brides here are not real.
Why then to search for troubles for your a.. and then complain??
look around.
2010-05-28, 04:11:47
anonymous from Ukraine  
Dear Gentlemen!
I just don't undersatnd you!!!! Why do you still continue writing to Russian/Ukrainian women???
You say that they are scammers, liars, faruds etc. You say that almost all profiles and women are fake, it is almost impossible to find a real honest woman here? Why then you write to them?????????? Why???
Then you start detective searches, yuo create scammer detecting sites, you write there, ask for advice, give 'great' advice to others. Sometimes it seems to me that you just like the process.
Why are you so obcessed by these Russian women? Are they special? Do you really want to have a Russian wife? What is so special and good for a foreigner in a Russian wife?
They are just women like millions of women all over the world.
Aren't there in USA/Canada/ Western Europe smart intelligent women??????????
I will never belive in it, as I know that there are great women there!
I know for sure that 90% of so called Russian brides here are not real.
Why then to search for troubles for your a.. and then complain??
look around.
2010-05-30, 07:03:07
anonymous from Taiwan  
Hello Dear ,
Going through your proflie i was delighted to disclose this business to you and hoping you will not betray or disappoint me at the end of it,in other to know if we can work togther to secure this money for a Life time Investment in your country.Before the death of my father,who died six months ago for a hearth complicated illness.He noticed that his illness is gotting very seriously that he was warded days before he died, he took me to a security company where he deposited a consignment belonging to a white man who escaped from Zimbabwe.According to my father, the man Mr. Thomas Jacob was one of the richest white farmers in Zimbabwe. He went to the same school with my father in France and both of them had been much relating. My father asked me to do my best to trace any of his relatives or hand the money over to charity.
Since then, I’ve done my best trying to trace Mr. Thomas Jacob’s relatives as the news was confirmed that he and his family members were killed in Zimbabwe during the land and political dispute.
http://www.cnn.com/...zimbabwe/
http://www.guardian..8,00.html
I don’t know what else to do and i am not trying to steal this money.
If you can work with me, to receive this money in your country for investment while we use 10% of it for charity work.
Should you be interested, please send me your full name, Your private email and direct phone numbers for more details.
Yours,
Julian Ndulovo Russell.




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2010-05-30, 07:03:50
anonymous from Taiwan  
another pic


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2010-05-30, 16:03:20
JHF3 from France  
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Qui est cet homme inconnu de Lugansk, Ukraine?
Quelle confiance faire de lui?
Est-il un escroc?
2010-05-30, 16:06:00
JHF from France  
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Who is it this unknown man from Lugansk, Ukraine?
What confidence to make him?
Is it a scammer?
2010-06-01, 07:33:36
anonymous  



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2010-06-01, 17:53:04
anonymous from United States  
I am currently emailing a woman who says she is from Russia. She says her name is Elena. I am posting a picture for you to see. If someone knows about her let me know. I have tried to find her on other sites but no luck. She hasn't asked for money yet but I am just waiting because I think she will. She contacted me from a dating site. Thanks for any help you can give me.


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2011-09-28, 15:26:22
anonymous  
Hi I felt in love with a man on a homepage for dating called eDating in sweden. I got a good talk to him but also a lots of letters to pay a lot to get him home from the US Army. Now as I already have been paying a lot I started wondering if this is true or not. How do I know if this is for real and not a scam. Please i would really like an answer because if its not false information in the mail i ve got this is the man I truely want.

Best Regards
Jessika Persson
Sweden




Hello My Jess.......
How are you now and how has been with the treatment?? i have really missed you so much........
My lovely Jess, i want you to know how much you mean to me and how much i love you...... Am promising you that i will never let you down and i will always be there for you when you needed me most, i will always be by your side at all time and all moment, am giving you 100% assurance that Rasmus will never reject you as a good mother because we going to be kind to him and he will never know we borrowed his money including any other person we borrow money from because we are going to refund them as soon as i get home with you soonest, I will just like you to lets act faster and as soon as we can pay the money tomorrow i will be leaving here and am promising you my love that nothing will never comes up again..... i want you to know this that happened was a matter of circumstances and which will never repeat itself again, and according to the different things you are seeing about the military, i want you to know as have told you earlier before too, there lot of people that has been intimidating the US army to deceive people and we have also see lot of similar cases but i want you to know ours is never and is not like that at all....... I love you so much and i will never want you to feel hurt or sad because anything that concerns you also concern me and i want you to know your warefarism is my concern...... Thank you so much my darling... you are always the best for me now and forever......
My sweetheart, loving you is like a flower that makes my whole day beautiful. Without you, my life is like an empty space which has no drop of joy and happiness. The wonderful moments we share with each other will always me in my memory. Every night when I go to my bed and after I wake up and all the hours in between, you occupy my mind. Every moment of the day, you are in my thoughts. Thus, I can say that without you, my life will end; you are the breath of my life. I promise you I will always be there for you in good and bad times, even if we face the roughest times; I will be always there for you because I love you a lot more than anything in this world.
I can tell just by the way you hold me that I mean so much to you; you make me feel so special when I'm with you. I hope you know how much you really mean to me - you're the reason why I get up in the morning, the reason why I do all the things I do because of how you treat me.
You are so special and I wish with all my heart that I truly am the one for you; I wouldn't want it any other way. I love you with all my heart. You are my best friend, my confidant,my companion, my everything, and you mean the world to me. You are one in a million, Baby.....
I love you so much...
puss gi dig....Red lipsRed roseRed heart
Your Dess ...... to you my Jess.....


Att: Jessika Persson
Attached with this e-mail is the War Time Replacement Act. Please endorse and send back to us.
According to the on going situation of crisis in a country in Africa where the Major army which lead the squad for the Peace keeping mission has been shot, and as a matter of urgency, We need SGTM Desmond Foyarg to replace the major been shot in Africa. but due to the situation whereby you want him home and also his leave had been granted, we had a meeting and we have concluded to send another Major instead of STGM Desmond Foyarg.....
According to war time replacement policy , whereby SGTM Desmond Foyarg cannot go to Africa and willing to Use another Major to replace SGTM Desmond Foyarg in Africa, Due to this, there are charges and dues which will be paid, this charges are the attachment been together with this mail..
We want you to know that is just the matter of circumstances and urgency that made us to come up with this charges if not, it wouldnt have be.....
We understood you have spent so much along the process and this is the last and final stage. we can not take the War Time Replacement fee from the leave Bonus or pay it without reimbursing you . The money must be paid by the beneficiary and all the money including the previous you sent before now will be transfer into your Bank account as soon as Major Desmond Foyarg get there with you. that was the reason we have your Bank account details for transfer to be made as soon as possible.
Kindly email us with the Reference Number given to you from Western Union agent including the Western union papers.

Thanks for Your cooperation.

Col. Richard Dixon
Office Of The Commander of the 32th Infantry Division,
Leave Request Unit,
U.S Army
United States Of America.
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1323kB Visa Hämta


2011/9/23 united-states Leave Request <usdefense_militaryleave@usa.com>

Attn: Jessika Persson
We are here to let you know we got your reply to the mail we sent to about the flight payment..... We could understood how you told us about your condition but we want you to know we are also working for good for you, we want you to know none of your money is waste or lost and according to what we had told you earlier, all payment will be refunded including allowances and entitlement of SGTM Desmond Foyarg as soon as possible he gets to you, thats why we are urging you to try as much as possible to make it faster so that we can also put everything is place as soon as possible..... We will like you to send us the name of the nearest airport to you when you are sending the payment details so that we can direct his flight there and you can plan to meet him up......

Thanks for your co-operation.

Col.Richard Dixon
Office Of The Commander of the 32th Infantry Division,
Leave Request Unit,
U.S Army
Kabul, Afghanistan


Attn: Jessika Persson,
We are here to inform you that the processing for the leave has been finished and now Major Desmond can take his leave to you, but You will have to send his ticket payment for his flight and which will be refunded together with the previous payment and also together with his allowances, the total payment for the flight is as follow:

TICKET: 750EURO

TAX: 140EURO

TOTAL:890EURO,

We will urge you to try as much as possible to make it faster if possible today and if you cant make it today again try as ealier as possible tomorrow because the unit incharge of his flight is almost ready but waiting for the payment to be made...... you make the payment via the same processing of the previous payment, hope to get back from you soonest with the payment details from the western union office....
Thanks for your co-operation.

Col.Richard Dixon
Office Of The Commander of the 32th Infantry Division,
Leave Request Unit,
U.S Army
Kabul, Afghanistan
       



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2011-09-29, 10:46:38
anonymous from United States  

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