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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2011-11-29, 20:31:34
anonymous from United States  
Who is she?
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2011-11-30, 12:14:43
anonymous  
Beware of this email,{nevaluga@yahoo.com} as the picture enclosed is actually from a man in the United States,pretending to be the woman in this photo,saying that she is from Russia,and it won't be long before you will be asked for money as you can see I was from the letter enclosed,so if anyone recieves a letter from the email address listed above,know that it is not from the woman in this picture


Hello my darling Bill!!!
Thank you very much for your letter, I was very glad to receive it.
How are you today my darling? How is everything with you? What is new?
I was thinking about you all day today, I miss in you letter very much. And I was very glad to hear from you.
Every day I get so happy when I open the letter from you because the wonderful energy of your tender words and care come to me through your e-mails.
I wish to tell you many thanks for your photos. Your photos have very much liked me you look very good.
I hope that you will send me more your photos soon.
My darling Bill today I went to travel agency and talked to the agent of travel.
Agents of travel has told to me, that all my documents are ready and now I should go to Moscow on Interview in embassy behind reception of my Visa.
But before going to embassy, I should pay my tickets in it travel agency as I should be in embassy with receipts on payment of tickets.
Acquisition of tickets is a guarantee of my returning back to Russia. These are rules on receptions Visa for your country.
Today we with the agent of travel looked the prices for tickets to you.
We looked many variants, and have chosen the most good.
I have already paid the tickets to you, but I have a little problem :(
Bill, I do not know how to tell you, but it turned out that my director can not pay me vacation money, and I dont have money to pay for my return ticket to Russia.
All this happened because of the crisis, I was planning to buy a return ticket to Russia on my vacation money and now I am in a hard situation, because I did not know what all that happens.
Bill , it is very inconvenient for me to ask this question, but I should know, Bill you can help me pay for my return tickets in Russia? ticket costs 600 Dollars.
it is very a shame to me that I ask you the help, but I really dont know where to me to take money for payment of my tickets.
I asked the help my relatives and friends but anybody does not have such sum at present.
My dear if it will not cause inconvenience to you, help me please.
Bill You became for me very much close and special man.
Our relationship should develop further. The god has chosen us among millions people and has arranged our meeting.
It is our destiny, it is our chance. We should be happy together. We should not suffer in loneliness.
You have presented me hope, you have warmed me a heat of soul.
You have given me new hopes.
My dear. I wish to be with you now.
I will wait your answer with impatience.
yours Marina

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2011-11-30, 16:59:51
Dirk from Kerkrade, Netherlands  
2011-11-30, 12:14:43
anonymous


Thanks for the heads up. It's a known prefab scamletter. I've seen it a hundred times and more. Hope nobody falls in this trap.

2011-12-04, 23:20:10
sergemog71@hotmail.com from Canada  


Special Thanks to Derrick for your advice, you confirmed all my worries and suspicions. I am please that someone like you has the time to post all these after probably having bad encounters or being scammed by Russian girls........
I probably should open myself the kind of website you did because, I had a very bad experience myself for about 15 years as they tried to scam me millions of times and couple of times almost succeeded but I was playing stupid........They tried to scam me out of $100.000 Don't worry guys I didn't send any money for visa, passport, ill mother or father's medication etc. I speak fluently Russian and I can read and see between the lines, especially when a man scammer trying to pass like a girl. You need to know specifics of Russian language to see the difference who is writting to you.
I urge all the naive guys who believe that everybody is honest to stop dreaming and come down to reality............They use you to scam you out of your hard working green by giving you hope of love that you never had or want to get back............Be careful, and trust everyone but do not trust the devil inside of them...........that's my advise............Good luck to all of you and remember be careful out there..........They change their names and send you pro-photos of models to hook you up on someone that does not exist..........only in your imagination......
2011-12-04, 23:42:59
sergemog71@hotmail.com from Canada  
Guys, Guys, Guys!!!!!!!!

The days when the mobsters, young dudes with balls were holding the knife up to the girls' throat are gone...............Everything is done on nowadays voluntarily............Girls as well as the Guys who see that it is an easy, and not illegal way according to Russian criminal laws to do business scamming people outside their own country, scam you for your hard working green. They make up pro-looking photos with models or with the most beautiful girls in Russia that goes thought marriage agencies that are in thousands in Russia where all these photos are originated and on top of that the girls are paying to these 'Marriage Agencies' for these pro-looking photos and services they never get.............. So these girls, dudes with balls, computer geniuses use these photos to set up the online dating websites to scam you guys..................now you know just part of the truth..............
2011-12-05, 04:52:58
OJAS from United States  
Spasibo, Serge.

Hope you become a regular contributor.
http://www.delphifa..=13#39806
http://www.dailymai..ndex.html

It may be a bad idea to post your email address, you could get scammed.

Poka! :-)
2011-12-06, 23:53:24
anonymous  
Listen up guys... potential Russian brides may be real, but finding a sexy babe thousands of miles away on the internet is risky ! Unfortunately, there are always scammers ready to empty your pockets if you appear overly eager for romantic adventures. Check out the girl’s beautiful appearance, the photo may be false. Ask her for more photos that are not made in a studio. Ask for the girl’s personal information (postal address, telephone, etc.) and see her reaction. Does she ask for gifts? Find an agency that delivers flowers and gifts with 'photo confirmation'. Scammers hate this, they love anonymity. This will provide verification not only for her appearance but also her postal address and telephone number.

A travel to Russia should be kept in mind to meet your pretty Russian girl and her family. If the intentions are serious, of course. Thus the majority of burning questions will be answered and the initial information verified
2011-12-11, 05:02:36
anonymous  
2011-12-18, 05:44:53
hendrix  
hi
i'm here to seek the woman of my life


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2011-12-18, 08:27:45
anonymous  
rating
One is call Lydmila another Lavender Both russians using same letters
2011-12-22, 19:31:04
anonymous from United Kingdom  
i am talking to this girl at the moment, 40 years old, fom chebokosary, russia, could any one please tell me if this girl is a scammer or not? she gave me her name as, OLGA STEPANOVA.


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2011-12-22, 22:05:30
anonymous from United States  
Listen up guys... here are a some thoughts to keep in mind when contacted by a sexy Russian babe who professes romantic interests. If she talks about getting a visa to the USA instead of inviting you to come there - under current immigration law - it's a SURE sign that SHE LIES !

It doubtful the Russian woman could get permission to leave Russia unless she has a fiancee visa used for marriage based immigration. In order for her to get this type visa, you must first visit her in her native homeland. You get engaged during such a visit, then fly back to the USA and apply for the proper marriage visa. After the visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and after all the guidelines are met, she can get a greencard to work and eventual US citizenship. It will work if you play by the rules.
2011-12-23, 00:34:18
mous from Maidenhead, United Kingdom  
I am very happy to see that you are interested in me. You brightened my day! My name is Olga as you have probably seen. I am here looking for someone special give him my heart and make him happy.:)Could that be you? And what are you looking for? I would be really happy if we could correspond with each other more and learn each ther better.

May be you will send me your address so that I could write you more about me and may be send you some photos if you want. Or you can write me yourself first at my address n1761@nicebride.com

I hope to hear from you soon!

With hugs! Olga.

I would be happy if you could write me at my address n1761@nicebride.com and tell me more about you. :) I am looking forwad to yor letters. With warmth, Olga

http://www.tagged.c..5449074887


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2011-12-23, 07:13:29
OJAS from United States  
Thanks mous.

Nicebride thread http://www.delphifa..586.shtml
Most scammers are MEN sending stolen pix http://dailymail.co..e-2004869
http://www.bournemo../4739926/

Cheers!
2011-12-28, 17:07:28
anonymous from United States  
This photo was used by someone trying to scam me. I found it funny. It was only obvious that it was a scam. Howcould anyone get scamed by these people. No offense, but you would have to be a moron to get scammed by these people.
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