Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
anonimo do Brasil
Melhor voce esperar para ver
Se ela vem por conta propria não tem o por que de tua preocupação.
Vamos ver o que vai acontecer quando 'ela' começar os tramites da viagem, passaporte, visto etc e tal.
é neste momento que os problemas de dinheiro começam a surgir.
E por favor, não acredite em falsas passagens aereas mostrando a chegada dela aqui no Brasil. Poste aqui sempre.
sao todas scammers
anonymous from United States
Thank you Derick
i have been scammed twice , with two Russian girls
2200 dollars and 570 dollars
now i only date good old Canadian or from LA Ca USA
anonymous from Belgium
I received mail from a Russian girl, calling herself Lisa, which I immediately recognized as scam mail. But I played the game with her, though, after just one or two mails she didn't write me again. Anyway, this is her address:firstname.lastname@example.org
The mail she wrote was the following:
I am very happy to receive your answer. I thought that you will not write to me. As has passed a lot of time
since that day as I have received yours email-address. I will seat about myself in this letter. My name is Lisa Thomas.
i am 35 years old. My birthday on August 17th. I was born and I live in Germany. In city Strausberg, it to be in 30 km
from Berlin. It is a small city here nearby 30.000 persons. But it is very beautiful and very quiet city. I have lived
long time in Berlin, I had a business, but lately it did not bring the income both has sold the business and has left in
Strausberg. Here it is very silent and quiet, there is a beautiful lake, and the beautiful nature. I at present the
unemployed, but I well provided woman. My parents were lost very much for a long time when I was still little.
My grandmother two years ago has died. And now I one, at me was not present brothers and there are no sisters. Though
I always dreamt to have the big family. I never was married. I do not have children. I had serious relations with men
from Berlin. But in Berlin it is heavy to meet the responsible person. I have decided to search for serious relations
worldwide. Now presently many men and women do not want anything serious and want only sex. And many people are registered
on these dating siteis in search of sex. But I wish to meet the correct person. And I want only serious relations. To me
35 years, and I am afraid not to have time to establish a family. It is very important to find for me the correct man, and
to establish a family. I very much am afraid to remain lonely till the old age. A little more on that I like to do. I like
to travel. I have already travelled all Europe, I was in South Africa, New Zeland. Also I hope that I can visit many places
of our little world. What to tell at present I do not know. Now probably you should write to me more to the answer. And so
we can learn each other. Once again thanks for your answer. I hope that you still will want to write to me. This first letter
in my life. And I hope that I correctly write letters. As I have attached some the photos to this letter.
ALL THIS LINKS ARE FOR WTH?PUBLICITY TO BUY PRESENTS FOR YOUR SCAMMERS????
PROBLABY THIS ANNONIMOUS IS A RUSSIAN SCAMMER
TRACK HER IP
hi my scammed friends, this woman is a real sob story,
postal code 80602
she wants cash of you in 2 hours, western union. great work men keep it up, we will get them all.
hello my friends,yes i am new to this, who is this girl, she says her name
can you please do a check on her , thank you
brad from england
anonymous from United Kingdom
anonymous from United Kingdom
hello , i am new to this, do you know this girl
dont know much about ip finding, can you please check her out for me. thanks
this lady is real and dangerouse,a real scamer with blue/grey eyes,beautiful smille and a bounch of lies to enchant you and decive you...1class scamer biitch
Hello my new friend how are you?
I am so glad to get your answer. I've been waiting for your reply.
I might ask you important questions:
They are ready to build a strong and long relationship? I'm ready to build a serious relationship. I do not want to play games. I WANT A FAMILY AND are willing to leave Russia by CREATE.
Because I do not like our government. I know? not like the politics of our presidents Medvedev.
In Russia, live harder every year.
I did not like living in Russia.
I only liked a real relationship.
So I ask you buy and install a web cam Skype.
Moy Skype ID:lionesskatya
I invite you to joint me.
I do not want virtual sex. ONLY real feelings.
We must see each other. Do you understand me?
I'll go to sleep. I can not write my long letter.
I love to write long letters.
But today I'm tired and should go to bed.
I will tell about their lives tomorrow.
I send you my photo.
Please, also send their photos.
Remember that we live in different countries.
My name is Ekaterina, I Korpergro? E 168 cm, my weight 54 kg.
I'm not married. I have a college education. I am a teacher at the school.
I teach mathematics in schools and Russian language (literature).
I think today I've told you about me.
If you have any questions you can ask me questions.
I'm going to close my computer? S and go to sleep.
Yes, I want to say to you, remember, I have a computer and web cam.
Waiting for your answer
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RomanticScams from United Kingdom
Guys, last night we had a request for access to our site from Portugal on IP 184.108.40.206. The request had followed a google search on this scammer Ekaterina Guryanova.
The email given for the request was:
We have every reason to be believe that this was a direct contact from the scammer or the 'team' behing the scams and access was denied.
if anyone has any details or would like to post notify us of information, please contact us at
the email upstairs(Ekaterina Guryanova) its not well written
and its possible she living in England,if someone can confirme that research
i wuld apreciate
Ojas another thing...its not nice other managers of scam sites ,like that RomanticScamms ..
snitch and post the IP of the persons who are been scammed..insted of the ip of the scammer
that can lead the scammers to the place were the victims are living..
you should clean that post upstairs from RomanticScams manager upstairs
with what foundation you say that background check was from the scammer and not from one victim?